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Iemand91 wrote:No surprise here. With the King already getting type-rated for the 737 everyone knew they would choose the 737.
Would make sense though. I can be flown by KLM crew and the only options in that case are the Embraer Lineage 1000 or 737 BBJ.
(I wouldn't make a lot of sense to get a full business A330/A350 or 777/787 BBJ would it. )
AMS18C36C wrote:Not surprising indeed. Will this be an NG-version of MAX-version? KLM operates the NG-variant of the 737, so my guess would be the former.
MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:Iemand91 wrote:No surprise here. With the King already getting type-rated for the 737 everyone knew they would choose the 737.
Would make sense though. I can be flown by KLM crew and the only options in that case are the Embraer Lineage 1000 or 737 BBJ.
(I wouldn't make a lot of sense to get a full business A330/A350 or 777/787 BBJ would it. )
What about a 747-8BBJ?
Iemand91 wrote:MrGtheSheepA346 wrote:Iemand91 wrote:No surprise here. With the King already getting type-rated for the 737 everyone knew they would choose the 737.
Would make sense though. I can be flown by KLM crew and the only options in that case are the Embraer Lineage 1000 or 737 BBJ.
(I wouldn't make a lot of sense to get a full business A330/A350 or 777/787 BBJ would it. )
What about a 747-8BBJ?
And to be clear; it's the government aircraft which (a small) part of the royal family can use. It's not their own plane/toy to play with as a lot of people/media like to put it al the time.
Only flown by the current King and Queen, and the former Queen Beatrix.
To give some numbers:
- In 2006 the Dutch Ministry of Infrastructure and the Environment have stated the Fokker F70 had flown an average of 466 hour per year the last years.
- Since our current King took the throne; the royal family uses the aircraft less than before and the Dutch government uses it more.
In the first year of his reign the cabinet used it twice as much as before (when we had the queen) totaling 40 flights, mostly by the Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Jeroen Dijsselbloem; the latter in his capacity as of president of the Eurogroup.
- In 2014 14% of flights where by the royal family, 86% by the government.
- In 2014 the royal family flew 56% on regular scheduled flights, 28% with the Fokker and 16% with Militairy aircraft or rental.
- In 2015, 88% of the flights where flown by cabinet members, 12% by the royal family.
- For the year 2016, they estimed 75 flying hours for the royal family at €5.590 per hour (totalling €419.250)
* Royal House and Royal family are not the same thing.
airzona11 wrote:Would love to see it painted in an orange livery, like that KLM 77W. Very cool the King is getting type rated to fly it. It is good to be king! What is the home airport for this plane?
Sand0rf wrote:That would be a shame. In my opinion PH-KBX should go to the Aviodrome museum at Lelystad or the National Military Museum at Soesterberg.Some rumours say the Fokker is already sold to Alliance Airlines in Australia
airzona11 wrote:Would love to see it painted in an orange livery, like that KLM 77W. Very cool the King is getting type rated to fly it. It is good to be king! What is the home airport for this plane?
airzona11 wrote:Would love to see it painted in an orange livery, like that KLM 77W. Very cool the King is getting type rated to fly it. It is good to be king! What is the home airport for this plane?
Iemand91 wrote:No surprise here.
Dutchy wrote:Willem has his new toy. Congrads to him. I had hope for an A319, but the 737 is fine. I guess they wanted more range to get them to Argentina with one stop to visit the Videla minister.
It will be delivered in 2019 in the meantime capacity is rented, the F70 will leave in may.
TOGA10 wrote:A319 would have made no sense at all.
Dutchy wrote:Willem has his new toy. Congrads to him. I had hope for an A319, but the 737 is fine. I guess they wanted more range to get them to Argentina with one stop to visit the Videla minister.
It will be delivered in 2019 in the meantime capacity is rented, the F70 will leave in may.
Luxair747SP wrote:Dutchy wrote:Willem has his new toy. Congrads to him. I had hope for an A319, but the 737 is fine. I guess they wanted more range to get them to Argentina with one stop to visit the Videla minister.
It will be delivered in 2019 in the meantime capacity is rented, the F70 will leave in may.
So that could be KL aircraft?
Another question, nowadays the members of the Kings family, are they also flying commercial?
If yes I bet, they try as much as possible not to rent in capacity until the BBJ arrives.
Luxair747SP wrote:So that could be KL aircraft?
Luxair747SP wrote:Another question, nowadays the members of the Kings family, are they also flying commercial? [/quote]
Dutchy wrote:Willem has his new toy. Congrads to him. I had hope for an A319, but the 737 is fine. I guess they wanted more range to get them to Argentina with one stop to visit the Videla minister.
st21 wrote:Will the BBJ be operated by the RNLAF on behalf of the Dutch government?
KLM City Hopper, which currently operates flights by members of the Dutch government, recently announced that it will no longer fly Fokker 70s (FK70) after 2017. This means it will no longer have the personnel capacity (including pilots and ground crew) to provide crews and maintenance for the government aeroplane after mid-2017.
Dutchy wrote:As can be aspected, the far left SP-politicus - Ronald van Raak MP - said the government intends to spend too much on the new 737. Second hand options seems to be a better fit according to van Raak.
http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/c ... jke-boeing
treetreeseven wrote:Dutchy wrote:As can be aspected, the far left SP-politicus - Ronald van Raak MP - said the government intends to spend too much on the new 737. Second hand options seems to be a better fit according to van Raak.
http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/c ... jke-boeing
Hmm... a DC-9-30 would be quite a proletarian choice...
Dutchy wrote:The PH-GOV will be outfitted in Woensdrecht by Fokker Services
Dutchy wrote:- Cost: 89m
treetreeseven wrote:Hmm... a DC-9-30 would be quite a proletarian choice...
Sand0rf wrote:The current airplane, PH-KBX, has been sold to Alliance Airlines in Australia for 3,7 million euros
TasosANG wrote:What is the main reason that the Fokker is leaving? Has something to do that the F 70 will leave from Cityhopper, so no crew available in the near future?
Iemand91 wrote:On Saterday June 3rd, she will be on view for those 3750 people who were lucky enough to be able to sign in for the event.
They will have the opportunity to view the aircraft from the outside. The cabin will remain closed.
Iemand91 wrote:The Dutch Ministry of Infrastructure and the Environment has made a concept livery for the new 737BBJ:
So boring and dull compared to the previous one:
Iemand91 wrote:The Dutch Ministry of Infrastructure and the Environment has made a concept livery for the new 737BBJ:
So boring and dull compared to the previous one:
ptrjong wrote:Orange isn't considered a classy colour, it's commonly used by cheaper brands like Easyjet.