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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:48 am

Max Q wrote:
Yes, I have seen pictures of the main cabin it’s the area behind the wing I’m curious about

Aah, sorry I misunderstood. That is just server and radar equipment space. Likely it is noisy and not very comfortable. I doubt the reason there aren't any pictures is that is it classified. More likely because they probably don't think people really have an interest in the server racks and data cabinets.
 
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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:28 pm

Ozair wrote:
Max Q wrote:
Yes, I have seen pictures of the main cabin it’s the area behind the wing I’m curious about

Aah, sorry I misunderstood. That is just server and radar equipment space. Likely it is noisy and not very comfortable. I doubt the reason there aren't any pictures is that is it classified. More likely because they probably don't think people really have an interest in the server racks and data cabinets.


You can see what's in the back of the airplane here:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/98/d7 ... ce8b64.jpg

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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:50 pm

Thanks Oz and BT

The design allows for a lot of space
for future growth then and additional electronics judging from
that available space


Love those ‘Flight’ cutaways
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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:51 pm

Leeham on 5th. November:

Nov. 5, 2018, © Leeham News:

"A UK defense publication reported late today (US time) that Boeing agreed to final assembly of the 737-based Wedgetail radar and surveillance airplane in the UK".

Any ideas where/how that might happen, anyone?


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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:23 pm

There will be the new support facility for the P-8A the UK will be receiving next year. But that would be too far north.

All you need is a hangar bay that will fit a 737. The tooling for the mod was last used for Korea's Piece Eye and should be able to be shipped to the UK no prob. Those tooling did travel a bit. First Australia, then Turkey, Korea, now UK.

Anyone know where did Boeing modify those UK Apache and if that facility will fit a 737? If it can then that would be my guess.

By final assembly, what they mean is they will take a base 737 frame. They would then cut/remove the crown of the 46 section and replace that section with a pre-fab section that contains the interface for the NG radar. During this time, they would stuff the main cabin and lower lobe with the electronic racks and gobs of wiring, additional fuel tanks etc . . .

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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:13 am

The E-7 has supplementary fuel tanks ?
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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:55 pm

I believe so, they are located just forward and aft of the wing box/MLG. They can be seen as pink in the cut-a-way.

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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:20 am

bikerthai wrote:
I believe so, they are located just forward and aft of the wing box/MLG. They can be seen as pink in the cut-a-way.

bt



Interesting, I know the P8 with its
supplementary tanks has the same total
fuel capacity as a B757 which is impressive
and explains its long endurance


I wonder if the E7 with it’s shorter fuselage
with less space for tanks comes close to that fuel capacity
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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:35 pm

Looks like the E-7 have fewer aux tanks. The large radar sail would also increase the fuel burn. However, operation environment of the E-7 would include tanker support where as the P-8A are often out there by their lonesome.

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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:48 pm

Imagine that large antenna would
create a lot of drag, wonder how that compares to the ‘frisbee’ on the older AWACs
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Re: Britain Considers Boeing 737 AEW&C

Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:39 am

bikerthai wrote:
There will be the new support facility for the P-8A the UK will be receiving next year. But that would be too far north.

All you need is a hangar bay that will fit a 737. The tooling for the mod was last used for Korea's Piece Eye and should be able to be shipped to the UK no prob. Those tooling did travel a bit. First Australia, then Turkey, Korea, now UK.

Anyone know where did Boeing modify those UK Apache and if that facility will fit a 737? If it can then that would be my guess.

By final assembly, what they mean is they will take a base 737 frame. They would then cut/remove the crown of the 46 section and replace that section with a pre-fab section that contains the interface for the NG radar. During this time, they would stuff the main cabin and lower lobe with the electronic racks and gobs of wiring, additional fuel tanks etc . . .

bt


Thanks! Very easy to visualise,

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