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Saab 93/900: Ugliest Car?

Tue May 23, 2000 3:58 am

What do you think. Do you know anybody who has one? Is he/she happy? Are the mantainance cost as high as "they" say?
 
prebennorholm
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RE: Saab 93/900: Ugliest Car?

Tue May 23, 2000 5:41 am

I think that already your header is wrong.
There is no car named Saab. But there is a SAAB. It is an abreviation of Svenska Aeroplan Aktie Bolaget (Swedish Aeroplane Company Limited).
The SAAB 93 went out of production around 1960. It was the 3 cyllinder successor to the SAAB 92 with a 2 cyllinder two stroke engine. And the SAAB 91... No, the SAAB 91 (or SAAB 91 Safir) is still around as a beautiful light aeroplane which was used for many years as basic trainer in the Flygvapnet - Swedish Air Force. Later came the SAAB 94 Sonett, a fine little sports car. And the SAAB 95 wagon version of the 93. All of them really smokey things until the 96 (a revised 93) arrived in the mid 60'es with a German made Ford four stroke engine).
Several years ago the SAAB small car division was sold to General Motors. New SAAB models are more or less luxury versions of Opel and Chevy cars, optimised for cold (Swedish) climate.
I'm pretty sure that you mix up the SAAB 93 (Saab 93) and the SAAB 9-3. That little difference represents a 40 years technology gap.
The 900 is a luxury Opel (Vauxhall) Vectra - don't remember the Chevy name.
In the homeland SAABs are generally considered ordinary cars of higher than average quality, but also more expensive. And official car inspection statistics tell that they get somewhat older than average before they are scrapped.
Maintenance costs: Hell, on any modern car, during the first ten years or 200 thousand miles you change oil, filters, tires, wipers, those brakes, spark plugs - and of course the cat. What else?
Ugly? Guess that some people think so. I think that they make beautiful cars. I only wish I could afford one, so I drive a VW instead, lacks luxury, but still somewhat durable.
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Delta15
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RE: Saab 93/900: Ugliest Car?

Sat May 27, 2000 7:44 am

I agree it sucks
 
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RE: Saab 93/900: Ugliest Car?

Sun May 28, 2000 12:44 am

Not only do they look ugly,they "act" ugly. I'm assuming you're asking about the last generation of 900's,the familiar body style that lasted from the early 70's to early 90's. In it's defense,I WILL say that when everything was working properly they were a decent handling car,especially in bad weather. I worked on them in the early 80's and they're a maintainance nightmare,and parts are very high. You'd think also that for what they charged you'd get a 5 speed shifter that feels better than a metal rod in a bucket of tennis balls--Vague and rubbery. At the garage where I worked,the proprietor used to quip that they were bought by those who had more money than brains--indeed,in the NY area during the early/mid 80's,it (along with the 3 series BMW) was THE quintessential yuppie car. At least the BMW was more mechanically sound. My grandfather had an older SAAB (a REALLY old one--with a V4) and it was a much simpler rugged car IMO. BTW,does anyoe ever notice that a 900 of the aforementioned vintage looks exactly like a big toe when viewed from the rear?   The 9000,OTOH looked like a marked improvement,though I've got no experience on them from which to judge their mechanical soundness.
 
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RE: Saab 93/900: Ugliest Car?

Mon May 29, 2000 12:31 am

The 900's made during the last 10 years or so have nothing in common with the 900 model which NKP S2 mentions from th e 1970 to 1990 period.
Present 900's are mechanically ordinary Chevy (Opel, Vauxhall) stuff. Maybe the door handles and the radio antenna were kept unchanged in the "new" 900.
Granddad's "V4" is the "SAAB 96 V4", a re-engined successor to the SAAB 92/93/95/96 line of smokey two strokers dating back to 1946 - with a German Ford four stroke V4. If they were used anywhere in the world except California, then rust have turned them into dust several decades ago.
Spares pricing policy varies between different countries. Here in Europe spares seem to be expensive for overseas cars, for instance Japanese cars. Spares for American cars tend to be just next to unpayable. Maybe the car makers just see a profit opportunity since alternative spares are hard to get. My insurrance company, for instance, would charge me a much, much higher fee in case I chose to drive an American car instead of a European car of same size and price, for instance a SAAB.
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