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To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Sun Jul 09, 2000 10:03 pm

hi, im seriously thinking of becoming a flight attendent as i love travel and airliners , but ive heard that it becomes very monotonous and boring after some time and that alot of guys drop out , is that true and why?is the job worth the effort?
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Sun Jul 09, 2000 10:10 pm

I think being a flight attendant would be so cool! I mean, think of it, you get to travel the world for free, meet many new people (on board and off board, including celebs), stay in hotels for free, go to the airport EVERY DAY, fly in a plane EVERYDAY, plus you have such a jol with everyone else. I could not think of anything better, which is why I'm gonna be an f/a, but only for like 5 years or so, then it's down to serious business!

Tommy  
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Mon Jul 10, 2000 1:13 am

I think guys drop out b/c dont most people think guy flight attendanatas are gay? All's I know is that most of the guys I have seen ARE.....
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Mon Jul 10, 2000 1:43 am

Airmale,

Like any job, being an F/A has its downsides as well as its advantages. Don't let anyone fool you about that. But the advantages far outweigh the disadvantages, for sure.
I know plenty of men and women who have been a F/A for their entire adult life, and I also know a fair number who have quit. As well as people who have returned after quitting. You get easily adjusted to having time off when other people are working. (Even if that means you're working when other people have their time off.) I guess that contributes to their reconsidering.

It's true that a number of young people quit their job as a F/A. But young people also quit other jobs on a regular basis. That's a sociological phenomenon, not restricted to the aviation industry. People used to get a job and keep it until they retired. Now, people will usually have three or five different jobs in their active life.

If male F/As would be quitting their jobs "because most people think (they) are gay", as Derek H indicated, I would say that's a pretty lame motivation. Who cares what people think? If you're as much influenced by it, that it causes you to quit your job, you weren't cut out to be a F/A, in the first place. IMHO.

In reply to 747sp_rulez saying "only for like 5 years or so, then it's down to serious business!"; all I can say is thank you for the credit you're giving us. It's apparent you don't think very highly of our jobs, and think of it as a "fun day out". Maybe you should consider going through training, indeed, and spending some time on the job. I assure you your views will change.

Airmale, if you're really motivated, go for it! Don't let anyone take your dreams away from you. The job certainly is worth the effort.

Best regards,

TriStar.
 
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Tristar

Mon Jul 10, 2000 3:34 am



sorry, but I didn't intend the post to offend anyone, but rather to encourage someone!

seeya
tommy
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Mon Jul 10, 2000 5:31 am

For the record, 747sp_rulez; I do realize you meant to encourage Airmale, and I read your post that way, too. It wasn't until I reached that last line that some doubts entered my mind.

Maybe it's because I have a little trouble empathizing with the concept of people wanting to change jobs all the time (relatively speaking), as mentioned above. Oh well, maybe they're just in search of that one job they absolutely *love*. I suppose I'm lucky enough to have found it in being a F/A.

Regardless, it's always weird to hear people say they know in advance they won't be doing this or that for a very long time. No matter how much they do love what it is they are doing. Puzzles my mind, quite frankly.
But hey, to each his own.

Peace,

TriStar.
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Mon Jul 10, 2000 11:44 am

There are tons of things to consider about "how well" you might like being a flight attendant. It truly and very heavily depends on: 1) the airline you end up at, 2) the city in which you'll be based, and 3) whether you end up as a "reserve" f/a vs. a "line holder".

Each airline is different regarding corporate culture, fiscal stability, seniority sensitivity, importance of unionization, and most importantly, compensation/benefits. As far as the monotony of the job, it can get tedious. But unlike many other professions, this is one in which you can constantly re-invent it all the time by bidding on different routes, aircraft to work on and overall schedules (but ONLY if you're a line-holder -- reserves do not enjoy such privileges.) Also, as time goes on, the job seems to get better as you'll make much better $$$ and work fewer days of the month, not to mention better seniority.

Something else to consider is your toleration for working with the TRAVELLING public, which IMHO, is quite different from working in retail customer service. You MUST demonstrate leadership abilities, you MUST demonstrate physical agility, you MUST be flexible with your time, and you MUST be patient. Many pax seem to despise f/a's (and airlines in general) and do not hesitate in showing it. You will be physically tired, annoyed at unreasonable pax, perturbed at delays, but through it all, you MUST remain professional and keep smiling the whole time. (I know many f/a's do not do this nowadays, but at least you're supposed to).

As far as the image of most male f/a's being gay, well all I can say is that at UA, you'd be VERY, VERY, VERY surprised at how many STRAIGHT, MARRIED older male f/a's there are at this company. Of course there's a lot of gay ones too. But as someone pointed out, this is such a trivial issue. Afterall it will be YOUR career whereby YOU'LL be travelling free. You'll suddenly gain many 'friends' when they find out how many buddy passes you have to spare. --Don't worry about what anyone else thinks when it comes to your livelihood and what makes you happy.

Feel free to email me anytime.
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Wed Jul 12, 2000 3:54 pm

Airmale,

If you have a strong desire to become a F/A then go out there and do it! I look forward to seeing you in the sky!

Good luck.

mb
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Thu Jul 13, 2000 12:22 pm

Can anyone tell me if the airline lets you choose your base? Like if I lived in Atlanta, Could I request to be based out of Atlanta?
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Thu Jul 13, 2000 3:03 pm

I'd rather be a Pilot. if i was a F/A that would reduce the ratio of women/men crew on the aircraft in most cases...
think about it...
but really, i know alot of guys that are F/A's that are very married, i work around of few of them... strangly even the straight ones fit the F/A stereotype of being gay at first, even tho they arent...
Still, i would prefer the front seat to behind the food cart; pax dont complain to the pilots as much!!


CHRIS
 
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F/A Bases And Crew Gender Ratio

Thu Jul 13, 2000 10:58 pm

Skyteam,

I don't have any personal experience with it, since I live in Europe and the airline I work for has only one hub. However, I have been told the airline decides where you will be based, and it's only after you have accumulated something like three years of seniority, that you can start thinking of chosing your base yourself.

Chris27_17,

"I'd rather be a Pilot. if i was a F/A that would reduce the ratio of women/men crew on the aircraft in most cases..."
I'm not sure I'm with you on that one. Are you saying there should be a specific ratio maintained on board when it comes to the gender of crewmembers?
I've been in a good few all male crews, and these days it is not unimaginable to have all female crews, too. So I don't understand what it is that you're trying to get at. Would you care to elaborate?

Best regards,

TriStar.
 
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RE: F/A Bases And Crew Gender Ratio

Fri Jul 14, 2000 12:11 am

Im sorry, i wasnt being sexist, just that it seems that crews with at least some feminine influence, usually as F/A's, work together better.... I work for UA and of course i've seen all-female crews and all-male crews and they are fine! most of our pilots and F/A's are great they go and hang out w/ us on the wkends..
just seems like from a passengers perspective a healthy mix of both is the most efficent..
of course there doenst need to be a specific ratio, being as i am a guy, i was making somewhat of a joke in that i would prefer to work with more females... i apologize that it was taken wrong

CHRIS
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Fri Jul 14, 2000 3:46 am

The idea of becoming a flight attendant appeals to me somewhat, mostly because I love flying, and the perks are FABO. Dealing with the flying public...well, that could be another story...and I am not great at keeping a smile on my face while some red-faced lunatic is going off on me.

My main concern about becoming an F/A was the starting pay, and the working hours. The way people I know of who are F/As talked about it, the job was more of a part-time one as far as income and hours worked. At least starting out. I would definitely consider it as a job opp, but not if I had to go through six weeks' training with no pay and then work maybe 4 days out of the week for $10 per hour.

Most of my acquaintances are younger people working for YX, UA and AA. I am sure there are plenty of F/As with some seniority who make great incomes and work full-time. I don't know as much about the job as I'd like, so bear with me if I've said anything incorrect.  
 
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Gender Ratio

Fri Jul 14, 2000 4:48 am

Chris28_17,

It seems like you were under the impression my last post was hostile towards you. Believe me, it wasn't meant to be that, at all.
From a passenger point of view, I can see your point. I've had a few pax tell me they're surprised at seeing men in the cabin. I was surprised to hear that, the first time someone told me, however. I was thinking to myself "these are the nineties, man!" Well, I guess that's the same kind of people who still feel awkward if a woman is flying the plane.

Empathising with your line of thinking, I figure having cabin crew members of both sexes may, at times, also be an advantage in case there's some kind of trouble starting with a pax. Some people happen to be able to be handled easier either by a man or a woman. So if either one doesn't work, you can send in someone of the opposite sex, I suppose.
I'm not even sure it's a justified theory. Let's say it's a passing thought.

At any rate, thanks for elaborating, Chris28_17.
Have a great time at work.

Best regards,

TriStar.
 
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RE: To Be Or Not To Be A Flight Attendent

Fri Jul 14, 2000 2:46 pm

Tristar, your theory is correct! (At least in my experience).

By and large, just about everytime one of my female cabin crewmembers are being chewed out by some patronizing asshole, that jerk ALWAYS immediately backs down when I approach, bend down, and firmly ask, "Do you have a problem sir?"

I hate to say it, but passengers seem to go way easier on guy FAs than the female ones. Of course male ones get abused and assaulted too, but from the majority of my personal experiences it seems that these hotheads think twice when yelling at guys . Many seem to take pleasure in trying to make the female ones cry.

A lot of the female flight staff appreciate the presence of male FAs for this reason.
 
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RE: Gender Ratio

Fri Jul 14, 2000 2:59 pm

Tristar, sorry for misunderstanding your tone a bit!! you are absolutely right!! thats pretty much the same thing I was trying to say, you said it much better.... i suppose the problem is i read these things and reply to them after a long day of work, its the last thing i do before bed so my brain has already shut down for the day  
Anyway, I have definitely witnessed how people respond differently to a woman or man... some people will become livid with a male, and a female can come by and the person will change face in an instant, as well as the other way around, its strange
But like we often say, when most pax enter an airport, they check their brains at the door and not thier bags..

CHRIS
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Bags For Brains?

Fri Jul 14, 2000 6:22 pm

"...like we often say, when most pax enter an airport, they check their brains at the door and not their bags..."

That would certainly explain the masses of carry on luggage.  

Glad we're speaking the same language here, Chris28_17. As well as UALfa@jfk.

Best regards,

TriStar.

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