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Vitriol From Down Under

Fri Dec 29, 2000 1:28 am

Wow, I hadn't realized how much we yanks piss off some of the Australian members of this forum. Why all the venom? -Mark
"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
 
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Fri Dec 29, 2000 1:50 am

Who knows?. I've met and worked with Australians at a previous employer ( helicopter manufacturer ) and found no chips on any shoulders, no indignation...no "attitudes". Good people and we all got along great. The "vitriol" you speak of is restricted to a few verbose hot-heads with very large chips on their shoulders...and the relative detached anonimity of the internet enables a lot of flame throwing that would never take place in real life...and enables even one person, who would heretofore be unheard, to be overrepresented and heard round the world....for all I know maybe that's the vitriolic perpetrator's intent. Well, that's my take.
 
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Fri Dec 29, 2000 9:05 am

I have visited Sydney on several business trips and vacationed on the Gold Coast. Australia is a beautiful country with warm and friendly people. Like anything else, don't judge a whole group by a few (..on this board...LOL)....
 
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Fri Dec 29, 2000 6:28 pm

Vitriolic! Me?
What have I missed?
I thought that I've been most balanced and "nice"  
Why I even complied with Chris28_17's request and refrained from responding to his "Any TRUE patriots" thread because, in his view I wouldn't "understand" - come to think about it, maybe that is what pisses some of us Aussies off about some United States of Americans - their damn patronising know it all attitude towards those who reside elsewhere - how would he know what I understood or not!
Perhaps I will post to his thread and ask him if he is sure that the 2nd amendment to your constitution was made before the conclusion of the revolutionary war (read his post to get the context of that).
Just realise that, as much as it may astound some, there is a big wide world out there outside the USA.
I would suggest that more Australians could name, say, 10 states of the USA without reference to an atlas, than USA'ns could name the six (yes, there's only 6) states of Australia. It's a matter of perspective - the USA is a big place with lots of people, Australia is a big place with very few people, so perhaps we tend to consider things more universally - that's one for the sociologists I guess.
To most in the USA your flag is a sacred icon that has intrinsic meaning, to many Australians our flag is a piece of coloured cloth that is a simple (and some would say very outdated) symbol of our nation, still respected but not worshipped.
I guess what I'm saying is we have different outlooks, respect ours and we'll respect yours.
Happy New Year
PGF
P.S. We're only 100 years old on 1 January 2001, the USA will be 231 on 14 July, so please forgive us young'ns for our impertinence  
 
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Fri Dec 29, 2000 9:15 pm

I know your all taken about me.. please note I mean only a (probably) a small sector of yanks that i hate most of them are a bunch if afucken idiots especailly the one who decided you all had aright to bear arms anyway im to pissed to walk so i think ill get going might even come back here if i rememnber
 
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Fri Dec 29, 2000 9:54 pm

Oh dear!!
Besides not drinking and driving I really dont think people should drink and type either..  
 
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Sat Dec 30, 2000 1:00 am

Not that you need to know this PGF, but America will be 225 on 4 July! Le 14 juillet is "Bastille Day" in France! But I'm impressed that you know that! Kind of funny how the Queen is older than Australia  Happy Birthday Australia!

Personally, I don't know any mean Aussies, except for a few on this board. I think that some people take nationalism too far, and it's NOT, I repeat NOT nationalism when you have to put down other nations to make yours look better, as some people have done.

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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Sat Dec 30, 2000 1:15 am

Also, PGF: Western Australia, South Australia, New South Wales, Queensland, Northen Territories, and I'm not entirely sure, but you also have the ACT and Tanzania, which one doesn't go into the six you're referring to?

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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Sat Dec 30, 2000 1:53 am

I guess I just wonder why: 1. our views of gun regulation cause so many sleepless nights in people an ocean away, 2: What causes people two hemispheres (one horizontal, on vertical) away to rush to the judgement that Americans don't realize that the rest of the world exists. Guys, I hate Hollywood just as much as you do, but I don't take it as seriously. Shit. we all love airlines and airplanes- a hobby which REQUIRES awareness and appreciation for nations around the world. Lose the nationalistic insecurity!

PS. Happy 100th. I hope to visit some day, and I promise not to wear my track suit.  
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Sat Dec 30, 2000 2:03 am

Amen LHMark! Couldn't have said it better myself. ( BTW, I too am amazed by how many outside the US think Hollywood or the news media is a microcosm of this country )
 
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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Sat Dec 30, 2000 2:15 am

Actually I just realized I listed territories. So, the actual list is NSW, Queenland, Western Australia, South Australia, and Victoria, and Tasmania. I also realized I called it Tanzania, which is country in East Africa. Looks like I need a brush-up on my Australian geography 

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RE: Vitriol From Down Under

Sat Dec 30, 2000 2:17 am

I don't hate America nor do I hate Americans. I do dislike certain institutions, and I do not agree with some of America's policys. You know what, the only thing that really pisses me off about Americans is that they can't after being told again and again, pronounce the word AUSSIE....FOR SHITS SAKE PEOPLE......IT IS NOT OSSSEE.....IT IS OZZEE. This includes my American friends here in Perth, who I am sure do it half the time just to piss me off. But nothing jerks me more than watching a show, such as Entertainment Tonight, and you get some blonde bimbo skank, trying to look cool by saying Aussie and pronouncing it OSSEE. Fuck, I feel like throwing a brick throught the TV screen.  

One comment on this forum which really pissed me off was from PTY.....he pretty much said that America is responsible for the Australian people to sleep safefully at night....when I responded to him (on two or three occasions now), I get no response from him, yet he brings it up quite regularly.

One thing that gets up my arse is that someone can think that I know nothing about a country in which I do not live. This has a lot to do with what PGF (Glory....Glory...Glory) mentioned about us being a more worldly people (for the reasons he mentioned), but also the fact that I have studied at university level for 2 years, History and Macroeconomics. Aside from this, I have travelled far and wide, and have seen many things that people only dream about, and even some that people wish they will never see.

Someone mentioned something on another thread about this being an international forum. This is true, which is why you will expect differing views on a wide range of subjects. Over the last couple of months, it has been American elections, American elections, American elections. If I even so much as put my opinion forward, I am chastised for it.

I am more than happy to hear a non-Aussie's views on Pauline Hanson, or even better, Aboriginal Australia ....it has been brought up a few times about our "bad" treatment of Aboriginals, but no-one explains how they are treated bad, or in what context. They say it simply to throw mud in passing. When I say something I explain what I mean, and it is from the heart, but most importantly, from my brain. If anyone wants to debate the Australian Aboriginals, I am more than willing to do so, because it is a subject which I hold very close to me.

LH423....Tanzania? Tanzania? You do realise that is a country in Africa right? 

In closing, I hope that America and Australia can keep their friendly relations in future, because without it, we will no longer get 3 or 4 per year visits from those hot, steamy, godlike men on their "lay"-overs in Fremantle, which most people call the American Navy      

Cheers

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