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Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:01 am

How many people believe in Evolution? Why or why not?? I am not trying to start a "boeing vs. airbus war" either.
I believe in Evolution, because we are very similar to the monkey, and fossils have been found that resemble the human and the monkey "combined". Also, animals have to adapt to their environments, so a Koala Bear in Australia would be different from one in the USA(which there aren't). They live in different environments and have to adapt to certain standards to stay alive. Over time, organisms have to change to be able to keep up with the changing environment. For me, i say yes. I believe in evolution. Do you?
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:05 am

Evolution, for pretty much the same reasons Blink stated.

And because the creation theory leaves way too many gaps.

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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:34 am

I believe in evoluation. Remeber when they found "Lucy?" I belive that was the things name. but it had alot of human features, and some ape features. It makes Darwins information makes sense. We involved into humans to survive, even though apes and gorillas are still around. So yes, evolution is what i belive in, even though i do believe in God.... But yes, the theroy of God creating everything, leaves too many gaps....

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Blink182

Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:36 am

You ripped off my post.........look below!(Kansas Schools will........)
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:39 am

LOL, so tell me guys, what are humans going to evolve into? SUPER HUMANS? LOL Big grin
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:53 am

Yes, eventualy we will. Dont most of us have atleast high school educations? When even 50 years ago they all didn't have that. We are realizing how importatnt an education is. So most of us now have a good education, which makes us all smarter, which means we are still evolving...IMHO.....

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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 9:53 am

While evolution is just a theory, I would find it hard to believe anyone could not believe in evolution. If you look at the hands/face of other primates, it is so obvious that they are related to ours. Our amino acid sequence is identical to that of the chimpanzee, and there is only one difference between us and the Rhesus monkey.

Our DNA is obviously very closely related, although scientists are now discovering that the expression of genes isn't quite as clear cut as they once thought.

Anyway, if that wasn't enough, look at the behavior of the apes. Chimpanzees look cuddly enough, but they are know to canibalize other species, and engage in surprisingly war-like behavior, complete with the use of rocks and sticks as crude weapons. I personally believe that an explanation for why the "ideal classless societies" we've tried to create have failed is that man fails to come to terms with the fact that we are NOT as far evolved as we think. The social structures and survival instincts of the apes are not that far removed from those we have today.
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 10:02 am

Yes humans evoled from something. We had to. we didn't just magicly appear. I don't believe that "God" put us here.

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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:38 am

Definitely Evolution.
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:42 am

YES.
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:43 am

You all know that we have the human genome completely mapped, correct?

Well my professor stated something interesting the other day -- out of the 32BILLION genes, only 10,000 were different than apes (or a similar primate)

Im going to try and talk with him further... but isn't that pretty much proof of evolution? All you god fearing Betty Bowers types cower in fear as science wins (another) battle.
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 11:47 am

No

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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 12:02 pm

It must be said:

Evolution is a theory, not a fact.

No, I don't believe in it.

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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:02 pm

Yes it is only a theory, but it has scientific facts and hard hands-on evidence to support it. Unfortunelty for the theory of creation, which is also accepted as a theory by some has no evidence whatsoever to support it. This is the distinction between the two. I must say that although I belive creation was highly unlikely, im certainly looking toword some afterlife, rotting in the ground as the only end to my life sounds rather unapealing.
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:14 pm

>rotting in the ground as the only end to my life sounds rather unapealing.

I doubt you'll be in any condition to worry about Smile/happy/getting dizzy But hey, if that is the worst thing that happens to you, consider yourself lucky.


Off the topic, but is "Frank Lorenzo" really Frank Lorenzo?
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:31 pm

What are your reasons for not believing in it. I am in Biology this year, and let me tell you, evolution is the only way to go. You can't tell apart the embryo of a human from any other vertebrate, they all look very similar. How about homologous structures? Look at the bones in the fin of a whale, the wing of a bird, and the arm of a human. They look suprisingly similar.
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 1:47 pm

Redngold-Comparing Science with Religion is like comparing Apples and Oranges, but you are very right that evolution is just a theory, however, Religion is just an organized system of beliefs that cannot be proven, like the existence of God, for example. I feel that one can still believe in God, but in evolution as well.
I do believe in evolution, and to support my case, I would like anyone who doubts it to look at the changes in harmful bacteria/medicines over the years. When penicillin was first introduced, it was 99% effective, but, like Darwin said, the strongest survived, producing more resistant strains of bacteria. Now, penicillin isn't even really used anymore, and that is why drug companies are always searching for more cures.
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 4:22 pm

I believe in a Creationist kind of Evolution.
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 4:55 pm

if not evolution....what else???
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Fri Feb 16, 2001 5:36 pm

Koalas are NOT bears!!!!
 
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Sat Feb 17, 2001 12:47 am

So I take it the majority of this board is for evolution! A couple of days ago in biology, we watch a video about Charles Darwin. The narrator said he found different types of species on different islands. For instance, a bird on the Galapagos may eat worms, while birds in Hawaii eat only fish... We also discussed how technically, all mammals came from one common species that developed over millions and millions of years. There is too much evidence out there to prove that evolution is true, not a "theory". For the people who said,"no". Why do you not believe in it? All I saw was "no", for the people who do believe in evolution, we all listed why.
Us330- you have a great point there, I couldn't have explained it better myself.
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Sat Feb 17, 2001 2:40 am

Evolution is a theory.

The belief that the earth is round is a theory.

The belief that smoking cigarettes causes cancer is a theory.

Theories, as defined by scientific method, are inherently NOT fact. That's the beauty of science, in my opinion: it acknowledges that we humans have limited capacity to comprehend a limitless universe - that our understanding of our world can change at any moment based on our ability to percieve, measure and reason. It's a complex and multi-faceted discipline.

I have no problem with other people's religious beliefs, but I think it's important to realize that such beliefs are based on faith and spiritual conviction, not science, not logic or reason.

To my way of thinking, religion (or spirtuality) can co-exist with the sciences very elegantly, with each system reinforcing the other. Together, they enrich our lives.

But I take issue with people who try to promote a black-and-white agenda. The old "God said it/I believe it/That settles it" line of thinking is repugnant to me. Nothing is that simple. God would not have created beings who are capable of so much thought and feeling if he/she didn't intend for us to use it.

I'm also put off by people who try to put evolution in black and white terms. Evolution does NOT teach us that we came from monkeys. Evolution was NOT promoted by just one man - Darwin - who later renounced his beliefs. These are simplistic statements that are patently untrue!

Evolution was and is a revolution in scientific thinking brought on by many generations of thinking men and women - scientists, psychologists, philosophers, etc.

Let's have a more informed discussion on the topic and leave our prejudices behind.

That's my $.02.....er, maybe more like $.17.





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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Sat Feb 17, 2001 2:54 am

>> The belief that the earth is round is a theory.

How do you justify that? Havn't we been up to space, and SEEN the ROUND earth?

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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Sat Feb 17, 2001 3:04 am

It's only a theory. Science accepts nothing on face value. There are no "facts" in science.

On the other hand, you might think that people who believe that the earth is flat are looney, and I would agree. Clearly, there are some theories that carry more weight than others. And evolution is one such theory that garners tremendous acceptance in scientific circles.
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RE: Evolution, Yes Or No?

Sat Feb 17, 2001 4:29 pm

I agree with it...wait, no I don't..er...who cares.

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