Matt D
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Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 1:58 am

It's taken me a long time to figure it out, but now I think I have found at least one big piece of the puzzle...


Hardly a week goes by here at work where I am not bombarded with requests from my co-workers to buy some candy, cookies, or magazines because their kids are (supposedly) selling them for their school.

I know that the parents mean well, but are they really doing their kids a favor by doing that? It seems to me that by taking your kids Girl Scout cookie order form to work sends the following message to the kids:

1. Why work when I can get my parents (or someone else) to do the work for me?

2. No matter how many candy bar boxes get emptied out, I can take the credit for doing absolutely nothing.

3. Work. What's that?

Whatever happened to doing the work yourself? Do kids still go knocking from door to door or hold car washes to have their fund raisers?

No wonder todays kids have such a lousy work ethic. The thought of actually doing something seems to be an alien concept to them. And they seem to have no trouble taking creditfor the work that their parents or siblings did.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 2:12 am

Damn straight man... my co-workers often do the same thing.

About a month ago my boss actually brought in calenders his son was selling... everyone at the station bought one except me. I told him i wouldnt buy one unless he brought his son in, then i would buy one from his son. (he didnt bring his son in)

I remember when i was a kid i did ALL fundraisers myself, not because my dad hated me, but because he loved me and wanted me to learn to do things myself...

good topic


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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 2:50 am

I hate being solicited. I wouldn't be surprised if there already is a school somewhere using telemarketing for their fundraising needs.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 3:21 am

Agreed Matt! Even though it takes some effort to get myself going...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

In a way the parents allow for that to happen, but I guess the situation's always far more complicated than that...
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 5:57 am

and then they get fat from not doing door to door cookie sales...
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 6:07 am

Kids now are getting hooked with video games, computers ,and television. Plus they'll add additional weight by eating junk food. I use the computer a lot everyday but I get my work done.

TV rots your brain!!!!!

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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 8:43 am

Wait a minute.

I coulda sworn co-workers that do this for their kids were only HELPING THEIR KIDS OUT. I thought when parents fundraise at work, it was basically SUPPLEMENTING the child's efforts. I thought their kids have fundraising forms of their own (which they solicite themselves), and I thought the parents have their own forms to solicite too. Gosh, all this time I was thinking this method was just to reach as many people as possible!

You mean to tell me these kids sit at home after school licking lollipops and watching cartoons while their parents do ALL the fundraising work for them?! ...I've been swindled!

The little lazy creeps need to be sent to juvenile facilities. The parents need to be reported to Family Court.




Get a friggin' life people.


 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 9:46 am

As far as I can remember parents have always been helping out their grade school aged kids by selling those chocolates, wrapping paper, sausages, etc....

Now what really bugs me, and this is a whole other topic, is why should schools, which are publically funded, need to go out and have their students peddle overpriced crap to make more money. It seems ridiculous.


Oh, the Girl Scouts do work very hard selling their cookies themselves.
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 9:47 am

Many kids in this age (NOT all of them, but many, especially in the U.S.), do not understand the concept of hard work and it isn't really their fault. Things have changed greatly in this era. No, not too many kids still go door-to-door selling cookies and what not. Now you see them in front of grocery stores. Most parents are afraid to send thier kids out selling cookies because it is not as safe as it used to be. So parents just bring the stuff to work. Another reason SOME kids are lazy is because every thing is automatic. There's no need for effort when you've got things like: remote controls (don't have to get up and change the channel), dishwashers (don't have to wash dishes), mirowaves, video games, computers (you can run a home business on your computer), Word processors (don't have to deal with a typewriter), cordless phones (don't have to jump up and answer phone nor do you have to dial all the numbers if you have phone numbers programmed in), remote to the garages (you don't have to get out of your car to open/close the garage), lawn mowers that you ride on (don't have to push it) and so on. Think about it! A kid can spend 6 hours on a computer talking to some one way over in South Africa who he's never met, but he hasn't gone outside to play with the kid right next door in over six months.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 12:00 pm

Climbout, you took the words out of my mouth!
Good point indeed!


Matt D, your starting to sound like Hillary Clinton.
She stressed that younger adults and kids today have a low work ethic.
I think many corporations have a low work ethic.

Kids don't sell door-to-door anymore because it's not safe!
Lot's of people have guns!  Sad

Todays technology dosen't help either.
Some kids spend hours on the internet talking about airplanes hoping to get on 'respected users list'.

I hate to sound old but back in my day, playing baseball ment using a bat and a ball with about a dozen other kids. Playing football ment playing on the grass with a real football. Today playing sports means point and click!



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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 12:33 pm

You guys are exactly right.
Being a kid myself I know how lazy most of us are.
Most of my friends sit around all day playing all of their video games and watching TV. I recently had an experience that shocked me. My friend went from a 89% Average to a 74% average just because Quote "I didn't want to study" or "I didn't want to do the project".
To me that just shows how most teenagers now are very lazy.

I have recently volenteered for a political party, studied the US space program and helped a friend finish a project all while maintaining a 96% Average in all subjects.

(I am not saying that all teenagers are lazy, some are accually very good. I am also not saying that watching TV and playing video games are bad. They are fine but, in moderation.).

Thats my opinion.

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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 12:46 pm

I will admit that if I really wanted to sell something, I would probably ask my dad to sell it to nurses and other doctors around the hospital. But, when I make all that money, do I really feel that I worked hard at selling cookies or whatever I am selling? No. I would if I were to go up to the hospital(my dad is a doctor) sell them myself, I would feel good about my self and deserve it also. I will admit that my generation(or maybe the next one after me) is getting pretty lazy, I do see the point in that nowadays, we are loaded with homework and late at night is the only time I get for myself, the rest is homework,studying and dinner. So, I see the point that those kids have about not having time to, but most of those kids are 1-4th grade and they don't get much homework, and they can go to the offices on the weekend. Yes, I do think that the next generation after mine is getting very lazy.
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 1:32 pm

MattD,

Do you read Dilbert?? In one of the Dilbert volumes I have there is a Sunday strip pertaining exactly to your topic...just thought it ironic...

Anyway, here in the Philadelphia area a few years ago, an 11 year old boy named Eddie Polec was murdered while doing door-to-door selling...not sure how national this was...this scared a lot of people with kids in the area from door-to-door selling. I can understand if the parents do the selling for them...

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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 2:36 pm

Matt D. and followers, did you read one of the above quotes?...

>>Kids don't sell door-to-door anymore because it's not safe! Lot's of people have guns!<<

Let's repeat:

>>Kids don't sell door-to-door anymore because it's not safe! Lot's of people have guns!<<


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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 3:01 pm

Hey.
Just so you know, not ALL young people are lazy. I just got back last night from Mexico where I accompanied 41 teenagers who fundraised their own money to work at an orphanage in Baja California which included a 40 hour bus ride each way only to help the kids down there.
The teens held dinners and car washes. Let's not stereotype too much...
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 3:25 pm

All those fund-raisers that schools orgainzie are plain retarded. If the damn school can't afford trips and stuff they should concentrate on education instead. Like it isin't enaugh that kids spent their entire childhood 8 hours a day in "school" learining mostly useless stuff (that they will likely forget in a month)from year to year, the damn school system asks them to make money...HA! In my opinion schools are not about educating young people but to give teachers a full time job. The 12 wasted years could be eaisly shrunk into 6-8.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 3:35 pm

We are a bit lazier. But...

It was the older generations that invented Video games, television, computers, internet and mostly everything you guys get on us for spending too much time on.

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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Thu Mar 29, 2001 3:37 pm

I as a tourguide and tourbusdriver in the San Francisco Bay Area deal with a lot of high school students groups. The groups come from all over the world to visit the USA,which always includes a trip to our city. American high school kids are not the worst - it's Brazilians, Mexicans and other upper-class children of the reigning Latin American countries. These offspring, raised with servants and private schools and so on, do not know anything about work, accepting what is given, (e.g., meals and so on), or even recognizing their extreme priviledge when they come from nations of struggling, semi-starvation level wage-earners. They learn arrogance and laziness from their parents and expect others to provide them with everything.

American highschool kids on our buses, generally of the upper-middle-class, do not have servants, but have parents who do and pay for everything for them. They do not babysit, mow lawns, paint fences, garden, houseclean, run newspaper routes, or work parttime at shops, restaurants or hotels. They are given long, expensive trips abroad or around the USA while their parents get a break from them. We tourguides and drivers have to deal with these semi-spoiled children who do what they want: come back late to the bus, refuse to eat their meals, talk on their cellphones, chew gum and leave it on the seats, smoke illegally, drink, make out in the back of the bus, and complain endlessly, or at least sulk, pout and frown. They're considered, to put it mildly, a grieviously ungrateful lot. We feel we're wasting our efforts, our educated lectures on these groups, but what the heck! We adults need paychecks, and their parents are sending them to us to take care of them so we do it anyway.

Which teenagers ARE grateful, attentive, etc.? Asian kids. If they come directly from Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia or China, they're an educated and well-disciplined elite whose parents have instilled in them respect for authority, a sense of gratitude, humility, and civility. It is a pleasure to deal with them, help them, give them high-level history, geography or socioeconomic lectures on California, and of course, they're so well-prepared, they know much of what we're telling them already BY HEART - including statistics about population, etc.

American kids are a product of their parents. Why they become so indifferent to their (relatively) silver-spoon youth is a mystery to me, since my parents were immigrants, had to work hard, and we all had to scrimp. To think of trips to Europe or around the USA at that age was an impossible dream. Maybe "having it all" is a backhanded curse; one is simply too young to understand what it means not to have it. Later, they will look back and appreciate it, but it's too late - they have to appreciate it WHILE they receive it, or all the efforts at education (which their parents pay) won't penetrate.

Any rebuttals? I am happy to argue all day with you. Or take you on a tourbus full of these U.S. kids!!!! This Saturday I have another load to meet at SFO, and I dread it. But a paycheck is a paycheck, hey?
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 3:46 am

I for one believe that life for most has become far too sterile. To be sure, more complicated and stressful, but physically easier to the point of fault. There's a fine line here between nurturing and coocooning, so I'll stop short of carmudgeoning ( as though I have a right to do so in my 30's! ). If we want to make life easier for future generations, we should not overdo it, and do so out of good faith...and not for the purpose of feeling superior as so many parents are wont to do: " When I was your age I had to get up at 3AM and chop wood before walking 73 miles to work uphill...in both directions". The question begs: Why imply that that their offspring are somehow ungrateful for their easier life when they could not possibly have any idea of what it was like "when I was your age" due to said parents deliberate coocooning?
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 9:18 am

I'm disgusted with some of your stereotypes for "all American kids today" (I know some of you said MOST, and I thank you for it)
Fundraising is becoming a safety issue. Children are not allowed to sell door-to-door anymore for most organizations (ex. Girl Scouts) because of the sad incident where a young girl was raped and killed during her door-to-door sales.
Not all teenagers today are lazy and incompetent. In my school, there is about 100 kids handing in their National Honor Society forms tomorrow, many who have 2 pages filled with service and leadership. To even be asked to TRY to get in, candiates must have a 93.5 average or above during this year.
I have no clue what lazy is. These past few weeks, I have had no free time. (this is one of the first times I have posted this week) Let's take yesterday's schedule for example:
7-2:30: School
2:30-5: Varsity Badminton Practice
5-6: Wrote a 650 word essay and did my math HW
6-8: Went out to eat, making a rough copy of my SS hw
8-9: Took a shower, got changed and typed up my final copy of the SS hw
9-9:20: Watched a few minutes of TV and went to bed.
And don't try to say: "You should have done your essay earlier." I did it early so I could hand it in for 5 extra points.
Before badminton, I was doing OM, which had me at school until 10pm on school nights. I'm also participating in a Holocaust awareness program. Sunday was my first free day in literally a month. So please, stop making generalizations, because those who do work are getting mad.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 10:19 am

Yeah not all teenagers are lazy. For example I have barely any freetime. I work full-time, I attend community college 2 days a week, I cook, I clean, I work on cars. Then when I have free time (before I go to sleep or on my days off) I play on the internet. It is really hard on me, I am pretty much worn out all the time and just dont feel like doing anything when I get home from school or work, but I just keep chugging along. Then boy let me tell you, when my day off comes around I sleep for like 12 hours or so. For example my schedual usually looks something like this.

Mon.- work 8am-4:30pm, come home and clean, then take a nap until about 7pm, then I cook some dinner.
Tue.- work 8am-noon, go home rest, clean up and leave for school. school is 3:30pm til 9:30pm.
Wed.- same as mon, and homework at night
Thur.- same as Tue.
Fri.- same as Mon. & Wed, and homework at night.
Sat.- work from noon to 4pm
Sun.- same as sat.

Well now that I look at it, maybe I do have alittle bit of freetime, hell I dont know whats happening to my time. Oh well. Anyways to people who still live with their parents (and dont have to pay any rent or bills), live life while you still can. Trust me, I work full time and make about $1000 a month, I can barely afford to get by, and with how much I am working I barely even have a social life, the only thing I have that even closely represents a social life is talking to my friends at work and school or talking to them on the phone. But I still feel good about what I am doing with my life so far.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 10:32 am

candiates must have a 93.5 average or above during this year

How is it even possible to get an average like that? The highest average in my high school was 92%...and that was from a true nerd who studied 24/7! Most going to University had averages between 70-85%...I just snuck on to the honour roll with an 81 % average  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I think giving such artificially high marks gives kids an impression of invincibility and is not a good idea. If you can get over 90 so easially, why bother trying?
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 10:35 am

CPDC1030:

Just a word to the wise:

Be careful who you choose to call "nerdy geeks" because the one you make fun of today, will very likely be the boss whose ass you'll have to kiss in a few years.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:10 am

Over a 90 in my school is not as easy as it might have been for you. Out of the 800 or so possible people that could apply, 90 people had the 93.5 or above average.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:12 am

Matt D: I'm going out with one  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

But he's changing his ways and becoming lazier now...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: VirginLover

Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:17 am

I think you misinterpreted me. Only three students had an average of 90% or over in their final year in my school of about 1200. 10% of students getting over 93.5 sounds very high to me, but I know it is the standard in the US...honour rolls usually have a 90% cutoff.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:34 am

MattD, I respect most of your opinions, but would you please get off your moral high horse and stop bashing everything that you don't do. It's your right to do so,

But frankly i'm getting sick of you coming and and flat out saying that all american kids are lazy.

I'll be the first to admit that i'm lazy. It's nobody's fault but my own. I work for a boss, and I draw a paycheck. When I get home, I really don't want to do anything, and that's on my own volition. I'm lazy outside of work because I choose to be, I think I earned it. Is there anything wrong with that?

"No wonder todays kids have such a lousy work ethic. The thought of actually doing something seems to be an alien concept to them. And they seem to have no trouble taking creditfor the work that their parents or siblings did. "

Why don't you say that to my friend who works almost all night so that she can help around the home because her mother has to take care of 4 kids because their father died. Why don't you tell her that she doesn't know how to work. She's not the only one who does that either, and she's only 17. Since you know everything about the American teenager, I guess she's lazy as well.

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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:48 am

I do see your point. Actually right now I asked my mom to sell some raffle tickets for my school raffle. She is just helping me out in my already busy life. I don't think I am lazy. I sell (sold) most of them she just sold a few. But I really do get your point. A lot of kids are getting lazy. I do know that some kids do go door to door after all the top seller in my school gets $1,000. But I do totally agree with you.
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 1:14 pm

First of all, I will have to defend VirginLover, because once you hit middle school, you can't be lazy at all.
6:45- wake up
6:45- 7:30, get dressed, eat breakfast, brush teeth
7:30-7:35 is go to school
3:45-get out of school
3:45-6:30- homework
7:00- 8:30- more homework/study
8:30- 9:00- airliners.net/internet/free time
9:00- take shower
9:30- sleep
Depending on what day, I might have a lacrosse game or lacrosse practice usually around 2 hrs(normally weekends) Now, I don't call that lazy.
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 2:36 pm

Life isn't the way it used to be when you didn't even think twice going door to door. Most parents would rather write a check themselves or sell to people they know rather then having their child go to stranger houses. I don't think this is being lazy, it's just being cautious. Some pizza delivery companies don't deliver in certain areas because of increased robberies. I'm not saying there isn't any lazy kids these days but many kids have such a jammed packed schedule they could use a personal secretary. I know I could have used one when I was in high school.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 3:07 pm

I know when I was younger and did stuff that required going door to door asking neighbors to buy something I actually went to people's houses. Along with me going out and selling, my dad would also try and get people to buy what ever I was selling to people he worked with. I was generally raising money for school or some other group I was involved with, and with my parents selling it was able to bring in a lot of extra money.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Fri Mar 30, 2001 4:52 pm

I have been busy out of my mind every since i was 14.

Now Im in college and my schedule has just grown fuller...just varies a bit more day to day. As for the door to door selling thing- we had a magazine sale at my high school back in Atlanta that was in the fall. I had football practice every day, and I did some door to door selling, but my neighborhood wasnt exactly the biggest neighborhood around, plus they even DISCOURAGED door to doo selling. I simply delegated the tasks to my parents who knew people in their respective connections and i would call relatives. It's called making use of your resources. Anyhoo...


Heres a typical day in high school during football season which consisted of most of hte year. (we were good, so we practiced from mid july to mid december in the state finals and worked out in the off season). In the spring we had practice for two weeks and workouts after school... plus i did pole vault and discus on the track team, freshman year i wrestled.

645- Wake up, sit and sulk for 5 minutes- get moving and get dressed
655- eat breakfast, continue to rub my eyes and sulk while watching TV and downing the selection of cereal, or, if i was lucky, the eggs and stuff my mom would cook for me
725-735ish- leave for school
755-8ish- arrive at school, 5-8 minutes before class started- i hated getting to school early unless i had too, sleep has always been a very valuable thing to me...so i would just get to school as late as possible (by senior year i had this trip timed down perfectly)..i had plenty of time to socialize at other times when i wasnt as zombielike.
807-317- School
330-700- Football practice (split into- film time, getting up to the field, kicking the s**t out of each other for 2 hours 45 minutes, then 15 minutes of conditioning)
7-715- clean up, get dressed and go home
735- arrive at home, throw my dirty clothes in teh washer and run upstairs...take a shower to clean up and regain conciousness from practice
755- eat dinner
815- - homework/ other things that needed to be done, if i was lucky and didnt have hw, i would usually veg, talk on the phone some, walk the dog...i didnt know the wonders of wasting time with the internet in high school like i do now
1030-1130ish- go to bed, start it all over.



Now in college, i am bogged with papers, physics hw three times a week that takes me at least 2.5 hours to do and half the time i still get maybe only 3 out of 10 right...plus i lead worship at church on wednesday nights, play djembe at campus crusade for christ tuesday nights. In addition , my band, Thorn Given, is in the process of recording our first cd that i am producing/engineering/playing guitar, bass, djembe, and singing on. PLus, i have my advanced ground instructors lisence, and will be finishing up my CFI after summer semester is over (May 8- June 15, i am taking two philosophy courses for my major) which will be two weeks of ground/flight training in a town 2 hours away.

I have known very few people that are lazy like you have said...many of them failed and such already before they get here. I get on average 6 hours of sleep per night due to the amount of work and additional things i do. Cut down on things i do you say? No way.... i wouldnt trade this for anything. I dont care if my GPA is only a 2.3 in college... number one its alot harder, and number two i am not going to waste away in a library. I refuse to throw away my youth and free time for something i hate passionately to do when i already know what i want to do with my life and know what i enjoy.
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Hole_Courtney

Sat Mar 31, 2001 1:10 am

First of all, before making a broad generalization just like you accuse me of, you should re-read the caption and original message. That should disspel most remaining doubt in your mind. I said SOME kids are lazy, not ALL, as you stated. I did leave an out.

Second, if you are (lazy) as I described, and do not disagree with me anyway, what puts you in any kind of position to be argumentative about it?
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Sat Mar 31, 2001 6:20 am

I did reread the original message, I even directly quoted it in my message.

The reason I posted as I did was because you basically accused all kids, no matter the circumstances of being lazy at the fault of their parents. Although your title suggests "some" kids, the body of the post makes no mention of that, in fact it does the opposite and makes a complete generalisation. Maybe if you intended the post to be read with the topic sentence in mind the whole time, i can understand, but the body of the post makes no mention of "some" except for the title.

The only reason i'm being argumentative is because of the reasons described above. And the fact that you think it's a great detriment to society to be lazy on your own time.

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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Sun Apr 01, 2001 9:07 am

Firstly, let me say that schools specifically tell their students NOT to sell door to door and that it is unsafe.
This only leaves relatives and co-workers/clients of the parents.
I by no means am lazy and I agree with hole_courtney.
My mother helped me sell poinsettas at Christmastime for a band trip to Hawaii, but I made sure to go with my mom on the deliveries to personally thank the heads of the organisations who were kind enough to purchase them. I would have thanked the employees who bought the flowers personally, but 150 people is a bit much.
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Sun Apr 01, 2001 9:52 am

Why don't you tell us, Matt D, what your childhood was like.
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Sun Apr 01, 2001 1:18 pm

Although some kids truly are lazy, I can attest that the reason they seem to be lazy is that they work their ass off in school all week, and by the time the weekends come along they are so exhausted they don't want to do anything but sleep and lie around the house.
My school has been around long enough so that my father was there grades 1-12 and graduated valdictorian of his class. I too started in first grade and intend to finish my pre-College education there as well. My father swears on his life that the school is harder now than it was thirty years ago; everything about it is harder: workload is greater, more material being covered, more requirements for graduation, more pressure to succeed.....etc.
By the time the weekends roll around, I am like a zombie, walking around half asleep all the time, because I don't get enough sleep or rest during the school week.
Some kids are lazy 100% of the time, but the majority are hard working students during the school week that are exhausted by Friday afternoon.
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Mon Apr 02, 2001 3:12 pm

hey I'm a kid (15) and lazy. so what its fun to be lazy.:D Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: Why Some Kids Are So Lazy

Wed Apr 04, 2001 10:51 am

I had a pretty good time with my last batch of teenagers, picking them up for a tour of San Francisco, on their way home to Portland via SFO from Germany.

In spite of their fatigue at being up for 20 hours, they were attentive and interested, not too restless.

The difference between this group and the last one? First of all, a lot of parents and teachers were along, almost one-to-one. But aside from that, I saw a difference in the kids themselves. Oregon might be a different culture, more down-to-earth and realistic, than some of the kids coming in from LA, NY or Florida. One of these tours, lasting one or two weeks in Europe including the RT flights, costs the parents about $2000/child. So with a little effort, even a kid could save some of his/her own money and join in with such a quick tour.

I personally am glad I went on my own at 22 without a group and stayed in Europe for over two years. It's the only way to become fluent in a foreign language and develop some attachments to a culture, people, etc.

If any parents or kids are reading this and would be interested in a real bargain, there's the possibility to go abroad with YFU, Youth for Understanding. The student lives with a host family for a year, attends the local highschool, and comes back nearly or totally fluent in the country's language.

Another is go with a university summer-job arrangement, where the main expense will be the airline ticket and some spending money for starters. Otherwise, the kid will be working, living with a family or in a student dorm, and have almost no expenses and a small income of his/her own, usually working in a restaurant,hotel, old folks' home, private home/farm as general helper, or in a building project needing "labor".

The one I went on was called "International Cooperative Educational Exchange" at Foothill College, near San Francisco. I am not sure it still exists, but certainly similar such things are available.

I think kids, like all humans, need to feel they're really participating in their own projects, trips, education. Make them pay for some of it and it will really tantalize and excite with the anticipation of it all!

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