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Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Wed Jun 06, 2001 8:26 pm

Which do you prefer?Indy cars or Formula 1?
For me its F1!
 
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Wed Jun 06, 2001 8:39 pm

I have been a fan of both for years, having attended races in person on both circuits in the U.S. and Europe. I believe there is more competition in Indycar racing, given the oval and road course venues. The Brazilians are currently dominating Indycar racing, as they did in F1 in the 1980s.

F1 need to be liberated from the grip of Eccelstone. And costs are much too high. Nonetheless, it is the premier racing series. Schumacher is a master. But we need an American in the series. I think NASCAR's Jeff Gordan, or the IRL's Tony Stewart, could be successful. I was glad to see Bobby Rahal cross the pond to run the Jaguar team.
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Wed Jun 06, 2001 8:42 pm


F1 for sure !
 
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Wed Jun 06, 2001 9:49 pm

NASCAR!!
 
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Wed Jun 06, 2001 9:59 pm

Formula One, 100 times less hick fans at the races, better sounding cars, and yes it is expensive, so it limits out alot of people who wouldn't be as good in the sport. I love watching it on TV.

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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 4:39 am

I'm an F1 fan, but what I really like about CART and IRL is that there is more competition, it is very hard to predict who will win a race. But, F1 cars are more technologically advanced because of the larger sums of money involved in F1.
Derek Hill is currently competing in F3000, isn't he? So, he is likely to be the first American in quite a few years to compete in Formula1. If he does make it, it will probably make the series more popular in the US.

P.S. Ferrari and McLaren suck!!!

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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 4:49 am

CART and IRL emphasis are on the drivers, while F1 on racing teams.


Hmmm, sounds like Boeing v. Airbus.  Big grin
 
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 4:55 am

CART and IRL ...yep... although F1 does take gobs of money...just isnt the same=P ..but...the comment about Gordon being successful...please..no...anyone but that guy..=P blah...pretty boy
 
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 5:39 am

It seems to me that there aren't many passes at F1 races.
 
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 5:55 am

F1!!!!!!

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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 8:23 am

Yeah, there aren't many overtakes in F1, but it only makes the ones you do see better. Like David Coulthard's pass on Michael Schumacher in the 2001 Brazillian GP.

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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 9:51 am

F1 = sucks, you can almost always guess the first three drivers of the race. Cars driving in a line and passing sometimes, never watch it, so damn boring.

CART = God I love this!!!!! Competition, passing, something happening ALL THE TIME. Haven't wathced in a years though  Sad You can only watch it from Eurosport here and it costs $1/month/1 person. We have two people living here, so it would cost 2$/month....what's the point of that? Maybe I should get it  Big thumbs up

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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 5:14 pm

Imagine an F1 car being entered at the the Indy 500. The same power, but half the weight!


Differences:
F1 is-
Very hi-tech. This is where you find technologies that make it into street cars 10-20 years later. ABS, Traction Control, Wet tires, clutchless trannies, active suspension, independant suspension, turbochargers, etc. etc. were all pioneered in F1 long before they appeared on the road.

Indy cars, as far as I know, have evolved very little in the past 10-20 years. A little tweaking here and there. But I haven't followed it that closely, so maybe someone can tell me different.

F1 cars are constantly evolving. In the 1980's, turbos were allowed, and these little cars weighing only 1000 or 1200 pounds were producing 1300 to 1400 horsepower during qualifying!!! They had big slick tires, big wings etc. Today, turbos are gone, and their power is limited to around 700-800 hp. Their wing size have been reduced, ground effects have been limited, and slicks are no longer allowed, but todays F1 cars are faster than the ones with all the toys in the 80's.

F1 is geared to road courses. While visually more interesting, it's true that it it makes passing difficult. That's where skill comes to play. On a big banked oval, if you have a faster car, you're going to win. In F1, having a fast car helps, but the driver's skill, and the speed and effectiveness of the support team is critical.

The nice thing about F1 is that it is so varied, and not U.S.-centric. The mentalities and styles between drivers are so different. I used to love to watch drivers like Alain "the Professor" Prost. Always exact, no mistakes, always perfect, and holding the car stable. M. Schumacher is a bit like that. Ayrton Senna was his complete opposite - hanging the car on the ragged edge, and sometimes beyond, winning because he was willing to push himself harder than everyone else. Watching him in a race under heavy rain was amazing - within a few minutes he would have lapped the slower drivers, and would be miles ahead of anyone behind him. I miss watching Senna. In fact, I stopped watching F1 for several years after I saw him die in 1994.

Also F1 races are generally shorter with a maximum 2-hour time limit, and slower because of all the turns. I think 2-3 hours of constant high speed is boring.

IMHO

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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 5:22 pm

F1 all the way! Mika Häkkinen rules.
 
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RE: Indy Car Vs Formula One-F1

Thu Jun 07, 2001 5:43 pm

Formula 1 is a worldwide legend, CART a local event.
Formula 1 has the big brands, CART has backyard shops.
Formula 1 has the stars, CART the Youngsters and F1-pensioners.
F1-drivers go everywhere, CART-drivers are even afraid of the rain.
A F1-race lasts between 1 1/2 - 2 hours, a CART race longer, but half of it is a boring safety-car-phase.

For me the F1 is the clear winner, because the Focus is on the Drivers AND on the Teams. There maybe less fights, yes, but that is the only drawback. As a Ferrari-Fan, that is a minor drawback.

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