Western727
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English Language On A.net

Tue Jul 31, 2001 8:04 am



I've noticed that there are many airliners.net members that come from non-english speaking countries. This question is for you:

How do you feel about having to speak english to use this website? I'm definitely not complaining, because the only language that I speak beside english is some rudimentary french. But is it difficult? Or is it a normal fact of life because the official language of aviation, according the ICAO is english. I'm just sort of curious about how you feel about the whole situation.
Jack @ AUS
 
SQ325
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RE: English Language On A.net

Tue Jul 31, 2001 8:31 am

Not a big problem
I learned English from the 5th grade on. Sometimes I have to look up a word in the dictionary.
What is difficult sometimes is to write in the tech/ops forum. I really know a lot about it but I'm used to the german words and to explain such complex themes like they are being discussed sometimes it is really hard to explain, what i want to say. I know there are mistakes in my posts, but most of the time I can explain what I want to.
 
Joona
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RE: English Language On A.net

Tue Jul 31, 2001 10:40 am

I feel it a good thing we need to use english here. And, this is an international site, after all....and I find it very easy to me. Almost as easy as Finnish  Big thumbs up

And, be glad it is english. Think about it if we had to speak swedish!!! This is a Swedish site..... Big thumbs up

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StarAlliance
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RE: English Language On A.net

Tue Jul 31, 2001 6:18 pm

We have to face the fact - English is the international language already!
And English has become the common language for us already too!

But writing English here is not a big problem as I have been learning it for many years already.

StarAlliance
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RE: Joona

Tue Jul 31, 2001 11:37 pm

Perhaps vee should speaka English vis a Svedish accent! Ja?
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Joona
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RE: English Language On A.net

Wed Aug 01, 2001 12:29 am

Nah.....ever heard the Finnish accent? Big grin

Now THAT is something you gotta hear  Big thumbs up

You can do nothing but laugh.

Thank God I have a North American Accent  Big thumbs up

Joona
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RE: English Language On A.net

Wed Aug 01, 2001 4:09 am

I don't mind saying everything in English however I rather just take Dutch. It is easier and better to understand for me.
By the way, when I was at AMS airport this summer I happened to see a billboard of an internet company saying. "In 7 years the main language on the internet will be Chinese". AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH I'd better start practising.
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Wed Aug 01, 2001 7:46 pm

OO-VEG,
I have also seen that ad. at the EWR airport! I was attracted to see that ad., but I doubt if it will really happen.
Let's wait for 7 years, guys!!!

StarAlliance
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RE: English Language On A.net

Thu Aug 02, 2001 6:03 am

Aren't there translator plug-ins that you can get to convert your text into English?
I don't know, so this is my signature.
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:32 am

SSTjumbo:
Aren't there translator plug-ins that you can get to convert your text into English?

*LOL* yes, yes there are ... one of them is called Babelfish (after that little fish that occurs in 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' by Douglas Adams) but none of them works properly. Here's a test drive (the software is called T1 Version 4.0 by Langenscheid, a well-known publisher of dictionaries here in Germany):

I enter the following sentence in german: "At the risk of boring those familiar with aviation: The 777 is Boeing's newest airplane." (And for those familiar with the german language  Smile/happy/getting dizzy : "Auf die Gefahr hin, die zu langweilen, die sich mit Luftfahrt auskennen: Die 777 ist Boeings neuestes Flugzeug.")
The result:  Big thumbs up
"Onto the danger there, that bore, that have a good knowledge of aviation: The 777 is newest airplane."

That stupid software doesn't even know Boeing.  Laugh out loud

Regards,
NoUFO
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RE: English Language On A.net

Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:46 am

Onay roblempay nderstandinguay nglisheay orfay emay.

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RE: English Language On A.net

Thu Aug 02, 2001 9:49 am

I wan to tel everrybady that I espiek espanich. Itis very very difficolt for me to tal ingles.

...Hustler.

Just kidding. English is my second language and I think a really good handle on it.
 
rojo
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RE: English Language On A.net

Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:00 am

Not a problem. I went to bilingual schools since I was 4 years old, so it is normal. I work for a US company and half of my work has to be done in english, so you can tell ...
I think that for every third world country the english language has to be a priority for people who want to make business with other countries.
Schools teach in english most of the subjects they offer in order to be competitive in the global world. Students learn english so they can get a job easily in a transnational company.

Rojo
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Thu Aug 02, 2001 10:17 am

There isn't just one "English". You can have British English, American English or Microsoft English.

Also, as the Western727 stated, ICAO states the official language of aviation is English. It would be fascinating if altitude was changed from feet to metres.
Would that present a problem?

EDIpic

 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Thu Aug 02, 2001 11:37 am

Actually guys, ICAO states that the official languages of aviation are Arabic, English, French, Mandarin, Russian and Spanish. Not just English but all 6 languages.
 
Western727
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RE: English Language On A.net

Fri Aug 03, 2001 2:08 am

It would be fascinating if altitude was changed from feet to metres.
Would that present a problem?


It would for me, at least at first, as I'm used to using feet. But I think I could get used to it.


Jack @ AUS
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Fri Aug 03, 2001 5:42 am

Actually, in Russia and China, they use metres, and when a plane is overflying their airspace travelling to/from a place that uses feet, they must change their altitude to/from a valid meter flight level.
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Fri Aug 03, 2001 6:30 am

Unfortunately I don't speak English very well, so when I write an answer I try to use easy forms and words.
I hope not to make too many mistakes, but I hope you to forgive me in case of mistake.

I think that non metric countries should try sometimes to translate them into metric because sometimes it's not easy translating numbers fast.

Have a nice summer
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Fri Aug 03, 2001 11:54 am

As many people on this site have probably noticed, I make sometimes big mistakes cause my first language is French but Canadian french (from the Province of Québec) but as I live near the bilingual national capital of Canada (Ottawa, both english/fench) it as been more easy to learn english for me than most of the other residents of the Province of Québec (We can't rely only on what we learn at school, you need to practise it I'f you don't want to lose it. This year, I've learned Spanish at school with a teacher who lived in Colombia and MExico for 10 years, but, apart from in class, I don't know anybody who speeks spanish so I've lost nearly all the notions and it's been only a few months, so, same in english) . But anyways, I think that english is the right language to use on this site so many people can communicate in many countries between ech others because I'f you were using Spanish or Deutch or Japanese, you'll probably wouldn't find people from all continents on this site.

Sincerly, SafeFlyer

Nota; I've made a big Trip Report as I'm back from Vancouver and I've noticed that not many people have read it, so, please I'f you have time, just read it and tell I'f i'ts too long or boring so next time, I'll make that shorter and gonna try to make it more interesting. But I'f you like it, just write something, always nice to hear from people on this site!
Thanks a lot guys!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Fri Aug 03, 2001 5:25 pm

Reading the posts is easy, but writing them is quite difficult for me. I tried to post a few trip reports but when I read them now I see how many mistakes I made, how simple words I use. The main problem is I can`t write what I want to. It`s sad, especially if I just had a jump seat landing and I want to share this experience with all members.
Kuba

 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Sat Aug 04, 2001 8:32 am

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5 year phase-in plan that would be known as "EuroEnglish":

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c".. Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favor of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling can be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"'s in the language is disgraceful, and they should go away.

By the 4th yar, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing"th"with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords containing "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer.

ZE DREM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Sat Aug 04, 2001 12:11 pm

That is classic Jetguy, did you get that from somewhere?
 
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RE: English Language On A.net

Tue Aug 07, 2001 2:01 am

Hi !!!

No Problem, but sometimes it is not so easy to find the exactly words. I can`t write exactly the same in english as in german. But i notice that my english becomes better from day to day when i spend my vacations in a country were english is spoken like the USA. The problem is, when i came back to Germany i speek only german and later i forget many english words.

Greetings from Germany

Patrick
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People From Skandinavia And The Netherlands

Tue Aug 07, 2001 2:45 am

Hi again !!!

I have notice very often that People from Skandinavia (Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finnland and Iceland) speeks a very good english, better than People from Germany, France or other european countries.

The best are People from the Netherlands. Most of them speek perfect english and german.

Greetings from Germany

Patrick
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