KCLE
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Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 18, 2001 4:49 pm

I just came back from my first high school dance a couple hours ago (I'm a freshman  Angry ), and I was just amazed. My friend (Who was presumed to be gay by several people at my old school, because of his high pitched voice) had two girls hangin on him the whole time. He returned from band camp from the high school with these two. Almost every person danced, except for three, one guy I know, another I don't know, and myself. I couldn't get a girl to like me if my life depended on it. Why would they like me, when there are guys better dressed, better lookin, and nicer than me? Most girls at my new high school judge on how well a guy can dance and what they look like. If you want to see what I look like, look for my post under "What You Look Like".

I have a couple of downfalls. First, I can't dance. I can't even get the beat of the music at these dances because it's so loud (Think of an MD-80 at full power, not moving). Second, I can't play sports, I'm not coordinated enough. Third, I'm very shy, I always have been. So I really can't ask a girl out, because it would practically kill me, and then I already know the answer will be no. Fourth, I'm not a nice person. I try my damndest, but I still seem boring (my voice sounds like Ben Stein's if you must know). And plus, if you look at my pic, I'm not very good looking anyway, even dressed up for my yearbook picture like I was in that pic. And another strike, I don't work out, so I don't know how to beat another person if, God forbid the occasion should ever arise. Oh, one more thing, I don't know what to do on a date, I've never had to worry about that, but now that I'm in high school, I don't want to get made fun of for not goin out on dates.

So, when you are so down on your luck, what is a guy to do? I don't want to end up like this Senior I met, who's never been on a date. I want at least one date throughout all of high school. Help me please, and I can't drive yet for another year yet. So, with that in mind, you have two choices to tell me. 1. Don't bother dating, or 2. (A good idea for me would go here)

 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 18, 2001 5:47 pm

I seriously think your getting way to depressed over this one time. There will be many more. Once you've been in HS a few months, you'll be loose, and you'll know alot more people.

-Derek
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 18, 2001 6:58 pm

hehe, Derek knows what he is talking about. After seeing my tips on webcam (lets just say two other girls were 'with' me), he knows it all. Go Derek! and good luck KCLE, advice is be yourself around girls and loosen up, as Derek said, and girls love a funny guy, and dont be too nice around them either (You can make a couple of sarcastic insults, depending on the girl).
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 18, 2001 8:00 pm

Boy it seems like Airliners.net attracts tons of guys who are not good with the ladies!!
Dancing is not very difficult read the post 'How to dance', also I would suggest buying a club compelation that way you will get a feeling for the music and there is nothing wrong with dancing in the shower!
Dressing is very important, even though USAFHummer claims it is not (but look at how many girls dangle of his arms!  Big grin) Go to Mervyns and get new some new clothes and throw all your old ones out. You will have to be a bit careful as if you do not get enough and people notice you wear the same thing day after day it will not be good.
About being better looking get a hair cut (something that you would see in GQ), maybe a new pair of glasses and that is pretty much all you can do, but with the new clothes you will be more dashing then before.

>>so I don't know how to beat another person if<<
Believe it or not girls don't like guys that fight! Running is also a good means of defence.

Asking a girl out is really easy, you get talking (you might start taklking in math class about maths) become some what friends and then say 'We only seem to talk during school, do you want to go and chill some time?' if they say yes get their digits.
Figure out what to do on the date itself when that time comes, but do not treat it like a date treat it like you are going out with your buddy!

>>I don't want to end up like this Senior I met, who's never been on a date.<<

You are hanging with the wrong crew, start talking to people who can get girls!

You also need about 10x's the confidence you have!
I think this should go in the FAQ!
Iain
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 18, 2001 8:41 pm

You need to dress up in a United Airlines Pilot uniform if you want to meet chicks! Big grin

Just go here and read how to meet women easily:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/93510/

Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 18, 2001 10:29 pm

Don't worry about not dancing, but for God's sake slow-dance at every opportunity. ANYONE can do that. It's just standing, but a little faster. When you ask a girl to dance, don't be awkward about it. Try to appear confident or apathethic like you don't give a s#!* what she says. It show confidence. Just walk up, point at her (with all four fingers like you a shaking hands) and simply say "Dance?". If she says no, don't put your head down or act humiliated or disappointed; just walk away and move on.

You think all those qualities you say you lack are the reason you don't have a lot of girlfriends, but the one and only reason is because you are shy. Maybe you can't get the best girl, but remember, there are lots of girls that do not think highly of themselves that you may find attractive. Seek them out, because they may find you attractive despite what you think. Shy guys loose sooo many opportunities because they don't even know there are girls out there that are interested in them. I think another reason shyness is bad is it makes you appear insecure and insecurity is an ENORMOUS turnoff to women. Just ask them.

Appear confident, be nice, be funny (but not geeky), and you'll be fine.
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 2:25 am

KCLE - if I could do it, so can you!
Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 3:15 am

Thanks for all the help so far, I'll have to save it to my harddisk, but now just one question, where do I get a United Airlines pilot uniform  Big thumbs up ?
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 3:32 am

I know you mentioned you are in a new highschool, but isn't there any girls you are just friends with from Middle School? Just confidently ask them to dance. I have about 30 friends that are girls, yet no actual girl friends I have ever gone steady with. Maybe this is the case for me because I have been going to school with the same girls since kindergarden, but my advice is just to get your feet wet. I dont work out, I dont play sports, but I dont lack the confidence to talk with the ladies. I have never been on a date with a single person, but always a bunch of my friends. (I personally think it is alot more fun with alot of people) I suppose one day I will ask a girl out on a one-on-one date, but as of now I am quite happy w/my social life.  Smile Good luck, and dont be too depressed, it is only the beginning of the school year. Much has yet to happen.

pgh234
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 5:09 am

Hey man.. dont worry about it. I was a linebacker on the football team, played in a band (thus confirming athetic ability and rhythm in my bones  Smile ), and still never had a date until Junior prom. Don't fret it. The biggest thing i have learned from all this is dont get too up tight. I was always a putz around girls in High school, and of course still am a dork. The thing that counts most is that you care for the girl and give her your all. If your heart is into it, you cant go wrong. If the girl still doesnt like you.. its her loss. And don't forget to have fun.. thats what it's all about.
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 5:24 am

Kcle...

Give it some time...I have a similar situation to you...there is a girl out there Im sure who likes you...she will make herself known soon enough...I guarantee it...

Greg
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 7:01 am

I was just like you (but I play baseball) until like 1 week ago. I was being very shy at a party and a nice girl walked up to me. I had never gone out before. Now, we spend every moment of the day together. Even now. So, just be nice to her. Ha she is laughing that I just said to be nice to girls. That's my $.02.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 7:39 am

Has it ever occurred to you that there are many girls who feel the same as you? In fact, women get it worse - they worry about being too fat, too over/under dressed etc. I wouldn't worry about trying to be the new dressed-to-kill dancing machine in town. Just try to be yourself (I mean, who else are you going to be?), feel better about yourself and then you will naturally attract people. If you are a pleasant person to be around (and that doesn't mean being 'cool' or whatever - that means being personable and pleasant and considerate) then you will not only attract girls but you will attract the RIGHT type of girl. Ever stopped to think that any girl who's interested in a guy because of his clothes or how he dances might possibly be just the slightest bit materialistic?
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 11:54 am

More good advice, but Pgh234 brought up another interesting point. I did become friends with a few (5) of the girls, but they never showed any interest in me, even for dancing. I was never "cool" enough to hang out with them, and I never had very many friends, so I'm not one of those teenagers that hangs out wit all his guy and girl friends at the local mall. Also, I did not say I go to Middle School. I went to a Catholic school, from Kindergarten, to 8th grade. The girls never even liked me as a friend, until one of the popular guys became my friend, then they said they'd be my friend, so go figure... Also, my high school is also a Catholic high school, not connected to my grade school, but the majority of the girls from my old school, are going here. But i'm also in the class of 2005, which has 300 students, so I might have a slight chance with one or two girls.


Another friend of mine kept asking all the girls in my class, if they would go out with me, and they all said nope, I didn't feel shot down, though, since I knew thats what they would say.


Oh, also, I forgot to mention that the picture I told you to look for is over two years old, I do not have any recent pics, so I have gotten new glasses, and I have changed my hair style.

This final thought for now. At the beginning of my school year last year, the new girl in my class, liked me, because of my blue eyes, she quickly found other guys and was dating the next month. I liked her at the beginning of the year too, but we didn't start talking till halfway through the school year, and we became friends. I had told her that I liked her, but she didn't tell me that she liked me, untill this past June, when she didn't like me. We were both shocked, and I could've had something, but i didn't.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 12:46 pm

Just remember.. this is the hardest part.. but if you just ask the girl, that's all it takes. Seriously.
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 2:34 pm

It's just high school. Consider yourself extremely lucky if you can find a girl out of 300. Go outside the school and do some extra-curricular activities (besides spotting  Smile). You'll meet many more people outside than inside your crowded school.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sun Aug 19, 2001 9:17 pm

If you ask them to dance and they say no, you say "What? I said you looked fat in those pants".

Relax, yougot 4 years, you'll become more comfortable around everyone. And if it makes anydifference, I never had a date all through high-school. High-school romances barely get beyond that, high school.

Just relax and enjoy the best years of your life.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Mon Aug 20, 2001 2:48 am

Well, actually, with the 300 in your grade, you have better chances of finding "the one" than I do. I only have 135 people in my grade! I know the girls all so well they are like sisters to me. Staring a relationship can be akward. Once again, the key to enjoying high-school is to chill out and have fun. As AC_A340 said, most reltaionships dont get past high-school so dont worry about it (Even though my parents were high-school sweethearts). Dating and girls are just part of the "high-school experince" I guess. Like I said before, dont worry about it. You still have four years to have fun.

pgh234
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Tue Aug 21, 2001 2:27 am

I actually gave up on the girls in my grade cause they were all obsessed with guys 2-3 years older than them. Why stcik to your grade with dating? I found a great girl who is a year younger than me and now i'm happy.

 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Tue Aug 21, 2001 5:27 am

My graduating class was 96 people. I've known 2/5 of those people since kindergarten. And you think you have a limited selection. If you are desparate, try to find a girl that is a year or two younger than you. My girl is two years younger than me, and it's great.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:05 pm

Listen, you are thinking too much about dating and dancing, start concentrating on other things besides girls, they are just a waste of time.

No matter how much you dress up, moose your hair or anything else, they just wont accept you. All of them are like that. A girl should like you for who you are, not for the clothes you wear or the colonge you put on. My friend moosed his hair, the works, but still didnt dance with girls.



I am just like you, shy, cant dance, etc. and I cant get a girl to like me If my life depended on it. So what, most dates in High school dont lead to marriage. You are only what 14/15? You got a lot of time.

If you want to get a girl do their advice but even if you do get one, a girl will throw you away for a guy better looking and plays a sport. Thats just the way all of them are, selfish.

 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:20 pm

^^ Are any of us surprised that this guy can't get a girl?
Sure as hell I am not!!
Iain
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:47 pm

^^ Are any of us surprised that this guy is an asshole?
Sure as hell I am not!!
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Aug 25, 2001 10:00 pm

Ok, I am not going to take this any further....

1. I take back my post to Iain, you can insult me, thats fine if it makes you feel good to insult people younger than you. You are not an asshole but many people do refer to you as one in #aviation2.

2. KCLE, give it some time follow everyone's advice and then you should be fine. I was just blowing off some steam.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Mon Aug 27, 2001 9:03 am

Dude you posted it it is what you think. You even came out with more insults about #aviation2.
Iain
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Mon Aug 27, 2001 11:25 am

This is a tough topic...

Ok, if YOU think your that big of a dork, wait it out. I mean, I know it is hard to be in a position your in. If you really think that you are that big of a social outcast, then take a ride on the back seat of high school, and let it take you where ever you want to go. Don't worry about ladies, don't worry about sports, and don’t worry about anything, just concentrate on schoolwork. Don't cause problems, don't make people mad, just do your business and keep the friends you have.
College is about 180-degree turn around from high school because nobody knows anyone, and people's attitudes change. I don't know this personally because I am only a sophomore in High school, but I have a lot of older lady and guy friends who go to Georgetown, Cornell, Hobart, MIT, and NYU and they say that the girls go more toward the "nerdy" guys because those "jocks" played around with them like toys in high school.

I hope you come to reality and realize you’re as much of a nerd as YOU want to be. It's all a mental thing. You could be the most popular guy in high school.

You control your own destiny.
Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten, Uptown, what now? Lets make it happen.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Mon Aug 27, 2001 11:50 am

ouch! 174thfwff, but you basically hit the nail on the head.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Mon Aug 27, 2001 12:05 pm

Ok, if you don't want to take my advice I gave 2 posts before this, then buy some nice cologne, like Polo Sport. It is in a blue bottle. Costs about 45 bucks for 8 ounces. Ware some of that. I even have junior girls hitting on me becaus I smell go damn good!
Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten, Uptown, what now? Lets make it happen.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Mon Aug 27, 2001 12:43 pm

Good Lord, I think this is so disturbing. Is that the pattern for guys that need to get girls? From the recent onslaught of girl problem threads, this is what I get.

To be a guy that can get a girl you have to...
1. Be able to dance
2. Be good looking
3. Have to play sports (be a jock)
4. Cannot, in any way, be shy (its terrible to be shy)
5. Have that chiseled look, work out three times a day

Geez folks! This is only high school! And KCLE, you are a freshmem, high school dances are stupid anyways. They are not symbolic of what kind of guy you are. And they are definitely not a way you get a date or a girlfriend. The way you get a date or a girlfriend is by being yourself, making friends with a girl, and just acting normal, not trying to be someone you're not. There is no need for you to be the "perfect guy" just so you can get a girl who would just as quickly dump you for a guy who is more perfect than you are.

The best advice is to just be yourself and be patient. Life is long, very, very long. You don't need to be depressed about girls in your first week of HS. Relax, it will just happen. And you will be pleasantly surprised when it does.

Just my two cents worth...

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Quotable Quotes From This Post

Tue Aug 28, 2001 2:05 am

>>>"I have a lot of older lady and guy friends who go to Georgetown, Cornell, Hobart, MIT, and NYU. "

--Wow! Wise, all knowing elderly friends. "Older lady and guy friends"....he he he.

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>>>"He returned from band camp from the high school with these two."

--Sounds adventurous! Kind of like a heroic Viking returning from a raid on a village on a far off shore.

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>>>"I have a couple of downfalls. First, I can't dance..."

--Didn't someone say that Bing Crosby couldn't dance at an audition?

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>>>"Dressing is very important."

--Boy! You said it, Iain! I wouldn't even think about eating a salad without it. I may be a born again bachelor, but my cupboard is full of Paul Newman's own.

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>>>"Go to Mervyns and get new some new clothes and throw all your old ones out."

--That's great advice, Dr Laura! Perfect words of wisdom for a freshman in High School in the midwest. There are no "Mervyns" in the midwest. A young Cleveland freshman with no drivers license has as much chance of getting over to Mervyns this afternoon as the next jumpseat on a space shuttle.

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>>>"Don't worry about not dancing, but for God's sake slow-dance at every opportunity. ANYONE can do that. It's just standing, but a little faster."

--I especially like the last line...It's like standing, but a little faster. ROTFLMAO!!!!! I am going to take these and show the crew this afternoon. This is too much!!

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>>>"About being better looking get a hair cut (something that you would see in GQ), maybe a new pair of glasses and that is pretty much all you can do, but with the new clothes you will be more dashing then before."

--Let's see...Meryvyn's + Great Clips + Lens Crafters = STUD!

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>>>"where do I get a United Airlines pilot uniform?

--LOL! I bought my shirts at a place called the Pilot House and Ball Park. You have to make it into class first and on the second day or so they have vendors fit you for uniforms. I haven't sold my MIDEX uniforms yet, maybe I'll put them up on e-bay specifically for high school dances.

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>>>"Hey man.. dont worry about it. I was a linebacker on the football team, played in a band (thus confirming athetic ability and rhythm in my bones )"

--Most linebackers I played with were linebackers for a reason. None of it had anything to do with ability, nothing to do with rhythm either.

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>>> "A girl should like you for who you are, not for the clothes you wear or the colonge you put on."

--Gee some sound advice. And this guy actually got slammed a few times for it!! I think you will all find that in the end, he's actually going to be right on the money.

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Hey all, thanks for the good laugh.

KCLE, Don't go changing. The only advice you need to take is that which is in your heart and in your head. High School is no picnic sometimes, but if you make it out of there with good grades, diploma, and college acceptance...you'll find that everything else will fall (or has already fallen) into place).



 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 7:48 am

-Blink In-


TT737,

Are you making fun of me for knowing people older then me? I know some who are out of college probably making more money then you would ever dream of making.

174thfwff

-Blink Out-
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:14 am

Hey 174th I have laughed at your posts in the past but this post really shows what an arrogant prick you are!
That is great your friends earn tons of money, but the fact is they do and you don't (nothing for you to brag about there)!! TT737FO certainly has my respect, he put his life on the line to protect his country (and your ass!), and he has a job that I dream about getting! Looking back through past posts (click here) it seems that you also want his job too! So I would not go dissin' it!
Just one more peice of advice, the aviation world is a small one, you need as many friends as you can possibly get! Out of the few pilots you have come in contact with you have been rude to, not very good going!
Iain
 
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RE: Iain

Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:17 am

ill see you in the chat
 
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Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:26 am

ok, I am just stating that they do. It seems to me that he think I am making this up, or the people that I know are pot smoking idiots.

"--Wow! Wise, all knowing elderly friends" Well that to me seems as though he thinks that college kids are not responsible and don't know anything, expecialy my friends.
Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten, Uptown, what now? Lets make it happen.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:41 am

I used to have a customer at the pilot supply store at SNA where I worked who owned a challenger as a weekend toy. Does that make me more sucessful then anyone? Ehh no!
How is your situation different?
Iain
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:46 am

Iain, this isn't between you and me. If you want to be mad at me for somthing i did not even direct at you, then be mad at me, but TO ME it seems as though he is saying Your friends don't know crap because they are in college.
Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten, Uptown, what now? Lets make it happen.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:49 am

The problem is you are an arrogant prick! Your are trying to compare someone elses salary to make youself look better, I am still trying to grasp the concept.
TT737FO post was very funny, it was a gentle nudge at many of us (including me), it was made to amuse, but it looks like you would fit very well in airline management, as you certainly had a sense of humour failure!
Iain
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:52 am

ok
Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten, Uptown, what now? Lets make it happen.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 9:25 am

Been awhile since I responded, and I have another little problem, besides getting to a Mervyn's Big grin . I can't wear cologne or be around anyone wearing a lot of cologne. I have somewhat of an allergic reaction to cologne. If I take a whiff of strong cologne, my nasal passages close up and I can't breathe. I have to breathe through my mouth, and I look like a dog with my mouth wide open. My whole freshman class is well advanced then even the sophmores at my school. These kids totally ignore the rules that state "public displays of affection are grounds for a two hour detention," and these kids are "lovin, touchin, squeezin" all over the halls. Because of this, my parents have said that I cannot date until my 16th birthday, when they think i have matured enough to date. Tommorrow's our school picture day, when I get my pictures back, I'll try and scan one.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 9:46 am

Cologne is not that big deal, aslong as you do not smell. Have you ever thought of using Pinesol? J/k!

I would not sweet about your parents rules, I would stay active in your search and when you find one just tell your parents you are good friends, and nothing more. If they question it too much tell them she also is not allowed to date until she is 16, but you must inform her with these goings on.
Even though you won't be able to bring her home, you will be able to make out with her plenty at school by the sound of things.
Do not let your parents set you back.
Iain
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 9:50 am

O, I also forgot to add that I'm not so dissappointed about not meeting girls too much anymore, not only because I can't date yet, but that I haven't even made any new friends. When I go to lunch, all these freshmen already have 20 some odd friends, whether they be older students, or friends from their old schools. The only friend I have is not in any of my classes nor in my lunch block, so I have to go sit at my own lunch table where all the kids take the chairs from, and just leave two, thinking that I'm sitting there and waiting for someone. I share 1 common interest with the kids in my school, so it either is good that I stand out and not afraid to be different, or it means I'm an outcast. The only common interest is computers. My other interests are drawing and aviation. My school does have an art class, but i couldn't take it this year because of a scheduling conflict. These kids in my school have at least 3 friends already. I asked "How?" and it is because they knew these kids from band camp or other things during summer. I've met two new kids, but only during my classes. Otherwise I don't see them. I've been myself, and as I thought, it don't work. Nobody talks to me, I don't talk to nobody. If they don't talk to me, I don't know what kind of person they are. I'm in a class with a kid, who seems just like me, he didn't talk to no one in class, and you have to practically kill him to talk. But last Friday, we had a "social gathering" so the freshmen and seniors could get to klnow each other better, and out of the corner of my eye, I saw this same kid, talking to 20 girls.

Also, I might seem weird saying this, but my whole class is a bunch of freaks, not saying that I'm not one of them, but these kids are totally insane going out on dates after only a week of school. And I need to rephrase something, my class is not 300 students, is only 150.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Thu Aug 30, 2001 8:19 pm

DUDE you need to start socializing! Start talking to people in your class before the teacher comes in and then at lunch go a sit with them and then you will make new friends, and before you know it you will know most people at your school!
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 5:08 am

Hey Kcle,

I got the best plan for you. If you say your not too "popular" with people at school, what about getting a job at the local mall or a big place where teen girls visit to? That would be realy cool, because there are alot of girls, you could be more relaxed around girls because you don't know them, and might not see them again.

After that, I am all out of ideas.

Peace In,

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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 5:29 am

Great idea, except the closest mall is 5 miles away, my parents work all week, so they don't have time to do that, and that close mall is in a nasty section of town. I would be, not to sound racist, the only white kid there. I'd wind up gettin robbed (the people in that part of town are ruthless criminals). The next closest mall, is about 15 miles away. It's in a better neighborhood, but too far away for a kid whose parents would have to drive him there.

In a few weeks is the big homecoming dance, where you have to bring a date and crap. My biology partner asked me if I asked a girl to it yet. I looked at him and said "I've never had a girlfriend, I've never been out before, so where am I gonna find a girl to go with me?" He almost fell out of his chair stuttering, "You've never been out on a date???" Then he said he's got friends worse off then me that got girlfriends. But then he told me to take off my glasses, so i did and he says the whole problem is that I wear glasses, but I hate contacts, and in four years I go for that laser eye surgery. Here's the kicker, my friend, the one who's fat, ugly, and talks like a sissy, asked this one girl he knows from band (not his girlfriend) if she wanted to go to this dance with him since they both wanted to go, but not alone, and now they are going to homecoming.

It seems that if you're not considered a "stud" by the girls, you have to have something else really big (no not THAT). The key is; TO HAVE A LINE OF SHIT A MILE LONG. not literally, but figuratively, you have to be able to sweet talk these girls into going, but I can't even sweet talk my grandmother's dog to come and sit on my lap.
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 5:57 am

Kcle,

ROFL! Thanks for that entertaining bit! You think that the glasses are the problem? That's so shallow! Looks can be decieving. What's more important is your personality...plus girls might look at glasses as someone more sophisticated and smarter, and some girls are definitely looking for that.

Don't get rid of glasses just because some friends tell you to. They are not representative of who you are.

One more thing, and I think this is true. That sad thing is that women tend to go for the jerks. Nice guys only have girls as "friends", not as companions in a relationship. Just last night on the local radio station, a woman called in and asked the DJ "Why aren't there any nice men left in the world?". And the DJ, a woman, said "Its not the men's fault, its your how you look at it. You keep going back to the same type of guy, the jerk who appeals to you only temporarily." And the woman on the phone responded "My best friend is the nicest guy in the world, but I could never imagine 'going out' with him." And the DJ says "Maybe you should try dating him, you will be pleasantly surprised." and so on, and so on, etc.

Just give it time, nice guys may not always get it early in life, but you will end up with a great woman at your side. Just have patience, and DON'T change who you are. That's most important.

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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 6:10 am

Tbar220, I couldn't agree with that more. I am a "nice guy" with tons of girls that are very good friends, yet no girlfriends! I am surprised that me and at least one of them have never "hooked up" yet. They all flirt SOOOO much with me but when I "return the favor," they all start acting awkward and uncomfortable. I know that at least a few of them want to "further" the relationship, but they are just too shy for some reason?!?!

KCle, like I said before about 20 posts above, chill out! You are just beginning high-school! You have 4 more years to go! Stop feeling so sorry about yourself and gain some self-confidence! It will do you wonders!

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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 6:27 am

Damn, Pgh234
Im in the same situation as you.
I always fall for the friendship trap!
 
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:51 am

Hey the friendship trap is not a bad trap to be in, I tell you the more pretty girls you know the more pretty girls you are around, the easier it is to hook up with one. Also as you grow up and out of high school things change!
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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 9:12 am

A few tips:

The more advise and hints and tips you get, the worse you'll do.

It needs to come out of yourself. If you just do and say stuff other people have told you, you do nothing but lie at her.

That is the truth.

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RE: Girl Help II, My Turn!

Sat Sep 01, 2001 9:26 am

To the ladies on a.net...why do girls tend to go for the "jerks"? I think this is true, I've seen it from experience, and even girls say this. They admit its a mistake, but they cant help it, they always get attracted to the jerks. Any insight?
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