chris28_17
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Drugs Are Good, Right?

Sun Sep 09, 2001 2:35 am

alright, i felt this deserved its own topic... this comes from the "shyness" post, here was someone's answer:

What you are suffering from is Social Anxiety Disorder, something I too struggle with. Thankfully, it is very treatable! I'm on Paxil, and it has done wonders for me. Just go to your doctor and psychiatrist and tell them the problem. They may also suggest counseling, which is never bad.

Drugs and counseling for SHYNESS??? give me a break!!! I spend most of my childhood being extrememly shy, total introvert.. my first "girlfriend" was when i was 12 and i couldnt even speak to her when she was at our house, i clammed up and didnt say a word, we just wrote letters. If thats not "social anxiety disorder" then what is??

my solution? around age 15 i had some serious family things that happend, deaths, etc... dont want to get into that, but i finally realized that hey, you only live once, and this is not the way i want to spend my life. So i started out small by making phone calls for doctors, dentist, etc.. appointments, instead of always having my dad or siblings do it for me... (keep in mind, i played sports my whole life, just never talked to anyone... and i was damn good too) something else i did, i actually went out with friends, instead of staying home on weekends...

another helpful thing with girls. You might think this is nuts, but a great way to lose *some* shyness w/ girls (your gonna laugh) but when your with friends driving around town, and you see a car full of chicks, holler at them!!! think about it, who cares if you look like a dope, they will never see you again most likely (if you sckrew up for sure) also my buddies and me went bowling, none of those girls there you will probably have to deal with, so go hit on em!! your friends will no doubt egg you on, go do it! its fun, its legal, and if you get rejected, big deal!! its not like you had a crush on the girl or anything... (never know either, you might just get something)

I can tell you PLENTY of ways drug-free to lose some shyness (im still a bit shy in some situations, i will admit the worst situation is hanging out with a group of someone ELSES friends that you dont know, except for one person.. you feel like you have to follow them around or something... dont do that!! but its hard not to)

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Here is my point to this post, actually its a question... why have we become so dependent on drugs to solve our problems? if your too shy, take drugs, if your parents dont discipline you and you are out of control, take ritalin, if your in sports and dont have the time to work out hard and consistantly, take steroids or even creatine... etc.. (thats another topic completely)

Now quite honestly, im not saying some people dont need drugs for certain problems, in fact for a while in HS i used creatine. (did i need it? no) But what is beginning to scare me is how dependent everyone is becomming on drugs to solve thier problems. Personally i think its sheer laziness. Everyone wants a quick fix to thier troubles.

My uncle has been a doctor for 20 years and has told me that ADD (attention deficit disorder) is for all practical purposes a phantom disorder, and he has only one time ever prescribed ritalin to a patient. he calls it "adult disciplinary deficiency" Nearly 90% of kids today could be diagnosed with ADD by definition of the disorder....
whats that tell you??

Heres another point about that. Some kids arent "out of control" but just dont pay attention well, thier attention span is wack. They also get ritalin. "you cant control that, right?" Of course you can!! get your damn kids out from in front of the TV. Have you ever sat down and watched cartoons these days? talk about brainwash, its subtile, but TV is becoming the parents to all our kids, thats why they are mind-numb and cant pay attention in class and etc.... think about it, im not crazy here...

wow.. i've just opened up a whole new can of worms here, but the thing is, kids are most receptive to the world around them between the age of 3-8 thats the years we are neglecting them, they are learning everything we dont teach them... who do you want teaching your kids, you, or TV?

parents! cant control your kids? give em drugs and have them spend thier evenings watching TV, it will make your job easier.... (hint: you'll ruin em)


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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Sun Sep 09, 2001 3:17 am

People are so dependant on drugs because we as a society have become so extremely lazy and we always look for the easy way out. Nobody wants to work for anything anymore. The drugs are not a cure for the problem. Rather they are like cold medication, they supress things for a short time.
 
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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Sun Sep 09, 2001 3:18 am

In today's society (at least the US) parents almost have to neglect their kids in one way or another. In order to provide for a family, pay the mortgage, electricity, food, etc. Most families need both parents working just to pay the bills. That is different from just a generation ago.
Also, more teenagers are having kids and they are simply not mature enough to take care of their children (many of them were raised on tv themselves). I'm 20 and I don't feel comfortable with the idea of children, and I know I couldn't support a family on my income.
I know I am making broad generalizations.
Back to the original question, I'm with you. I have found that the only surefire way to cure my problems is to confront them myself with my humanity and no chemical intervention. On the other hand I cannot speak for everyone. Who are we to say that drugs do not help some people, or many people for that matter just because we do not need them.
 
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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Sun Sep 09, 2001 5:04 am

That's the best post from you, Chris that I've ever had to read, and I totally agree with you. If I could fight my shyness - anyone can.
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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Sun Sep 09, 2001 1:18 pm

I think another thing that really helps fight stuff that drugs would supposedly help is to have a good friend there to guide you through. If its shyness, you probably still have a good friend, and they can guide you through any problems you have. If its "ADD", have someone close to you to guide you through any problems. If its sports, instead of taking drugs, have someone there to motivate you to play harder and train better.

Friends and people close to you can be the best solution to any problems you have.
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chris28_17
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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 11:21 am

alright, well i thought more people would respond to this, guess not... i very much would like to hear to the view of someone who disagrees with any of my points, i know there are people who think im just a anti-advancement jerk, those are the viewpoints im curious to hear... and if you choose not to reply, thats fine, the point here is that there is some scary stuff out there that we take for granted, maybe someone should be taking a closer look...

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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 12:24 pm

Chris...

I'm not sure I'm on topic, but I DO think your story is another example of how our culture here in the states has really become mentally lazy and spoiled.

I just spent two years living in the vast cultural wasteland of North Dallas. I've lived many places in my life, but nowhere have they so successfully managed to build consumerism on every..EVERY....available square inch. There is a supermarket on EVERY corner. It seems every possible restaurant chain you could list has a store every 1.8 miles or so. Enourmous shopping malls are everywhere. The weekend hobby is to go out and BUY. Anything.

Now, it is not my place to tell people they're living a thoughtless overindulgent lifestyle by being satisfied with living in such a place. Most people simply want familiarity and convenience to their lives and I respect that.

But it goes without saying that with such overwhelming convenience available to them on a basic survival level, people naturally demand the same convenience in every aspect of their lives. And they become, for lack of a better term, spoiled friggin babies when they dont get that convenience.

They're the ones who act like cranky children when a level 6 thunderstorm has left them sitting around in an airport terminal. They're the ones that get off cruise ships in the Caribbean and become the 'ugly Americans' of lore, waving credit cards around and demanding the local culture conform to them. And I would imagine they're the ones who go right to the doctor for dope to cure 'shyness'.

I was talking about this with a friend this past week. I live in Florida now. I like living here but I sometimes feel the locals are a little 'spoiled', and here's why...... The average calculated year round temperature around here is 70 or so. A person would be hard pressed to suffer any great harm or discomfort from Mother Nature, hurricanes notwithstanding.

Yet I grew up in the wild woods of Northern Michigan. January temperatures often dipped far below freezing, and wind chill factors could be deadly....-50 to -60 below. You had to THINK....very carefully...about the weather, what you were doing, where you were going. I think mother nature forced some survival instincts out of people that made them a bit more humble.

My point is, common sense is a natural instinct in all of us, but oftentimes it gets tossed overboard in the name of gratification or convenience.
 
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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:38 pm

Ecstasy is a personal favourite of mine, but the ultimate hit comes from Morphine.... Big grin
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RE: Drugs Are Good, Right?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 2:40 pm

For me, good ol' Adrenaline is the best stuff I can get high on.
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