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Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:09 am

TERRORISM HAS NO RELIGION

I've been reading a lot of replies by some people who think that there is a relationship between terrorism and Islam.

For everyones information Islam prohibits the killing of innocent civilians JUST LIKE EVERY RELIGION! Do some people still kill innocent civilians? Yes! Everywhere in the world there are people with no hearts that kill innocent civilians REGARDLESS of there religion! EVERY religion prohibits the killing of innocent civilians whether some religious officials encourage it or not.

TERRORISM HAS NO RELIGION
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:15 am

Thank you for pointing that out!

Hopefully some of our forum members learn something from all of this.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:19 am

Also, an Islamic Fundamentalist is one who adheres to Islam more strictly than others & is therefore less likely to kill innocents than most any person.
May I suggest we use the word "fanatic" in future to describe the murderous types?
 
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:23 am

Wise and true and I agree 100%.....
 
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:43 am

Thank you for your replies. I have been disgusted by some of the people in the forum who say that Islam encourages the killing and annihilation of others.

These people definately need to take a course about religions.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:58 am

I agree with you, but there is foundation for it. Why are terrorists as we know them associated with Arabs? There is a reason to it. History, plain and simple. And why are most of the fanatic acts of terrorism done by Islamic "fanatics"? That's why terrorism is associated with Islam. It has some base, as sad as that may sound.

Of course, there are other terrorist groups in the world that aren't Muslim, but many of them are.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 8:03 am

Tbar220,

The reason is very simple. The Middle East is the most affected area in the world by the US's unfair foreign policy that they get so angry. That they use terrorism to express their anger.
However this behavior is unacceptable, but thats not going to stop the terrorists sadly.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 8:07 am

Religion usually gets the credit behind all that is good in the world. It's only natural it take the heat for that which is bad.

This incident has quadrupled my Faith.... but further drained my patience with 'religion'.

There's not a building or brick in existence that's worth a human life. Not in Jerusalem or Mecca or Rome.
 
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 8:23 am

BA,

I agree that is a hot spot in the world, but I think the U.S. has the correct policy, at least in Israel. I think they have bad policy in Iraq.

Here's more Islamic terrorism for you, from www.csmonitor.com

A thousand years ago, a small Islamic sect called the Assassins used suicide attacks to terrorize Arab leaders and European crusaders for more than two centuries. The Assassins defied their enemies until a massive Mongol army wiped out their castle stronghold in the mountains of northern Persia.

So its been happening for many many years now.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 8:36 am

People have been fighting with each other since the beginning of time Tbar220....

Its nothing new, I know that.

Regards and God Bless.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 9:02 am

Let us not forget however, that Islam says if you die trying to spread Allah's word, you are in paradise immediately after death. So does that not give an "incentive" to would be Muslim terrorists? However I do believe it is more than that, terrorists are perverts and cowards in the greatest sense of that words.
 
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 10:18 am

Olympic A-340,

You know what Allah's word is? To be peaceful and loving.

However, these terrorists do not interpret it this way. They believe that destroying western culture by killing innocent civilians is Allah's word.

Regards.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 12:05 pm

How about we drop Isalmic anything from reference to terrorists? In the US we still have the KKK which claims to be a Christian organization. When was the last time you heard a KKK attack refered to as "a Christian fundamentalist" attack?

Olympic A-340, you are right. Islam does say that a believer of Allah who dies trying to promote will have a special place by his side. However, Islam also prohibits harm to the innocent and helpless. And suicide is a major sin. The reference to dying for your belief refers to persecution. Members of all religions, and non believers, have been killed for their beliefs. Quoting one of my favourite Monty Python lines " Noooobody expects the Spanish inquisition".
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sat Sep 15, 2001 1:04 pm

IMissPiedmont,

Your wise words are completely true, and I wish everyone can hear them so we stop this hatred.

I have added you to my Respected Users list.

God Bless.
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RE: BA

Sat Sep 15, 2001 1:17 pm

Ditto my young friend. You are wise beyond your years.

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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sun Sep 16, 2001 6:14 am

For the muslim nations, USA is terrorising too and I somehow agree with that.
 
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sun Sep 16, 2001 6:24 am

These people definately need to take a course about religions.

wow, you are pretty smart for a "13-15" year old child... how many "courses on religion" have you ever taken my young friend? i'll take a wild guess at none.

you are in a sense right by "terrorism has no religion" but in a way, terrorism is of itself a religion. Its very true that these terrorists believe they will go to heaven for these acts. They belive that we americans are the enemies of "god" and it is thier responsibility to their god to destroy his enemies.

yes i have taken MANY a course on religions, and quite honestly i didnt find anything in particular where your statements were incorrect, however your arrogance is something to be appalled at, especially at such a young age, you have much to learn.


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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sun Sep 16, 2001 6:47 am

Chris28_17,

I did not say everyone in this forum needs to take a course about religions.

Infact, I really am so happy about most of the people in the forums. Most have been fair, and did not discriminate.

However there are a certain few in this forum that do need to take a course about religions, and I will say this YOU are not one of them.

This is a hint for you. In 2 months I will need to change my profile to "16-20"

I study about religions and ancient history during my spare time. Its one of my OTHER interests.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sun Sep 16, 2001 6:51 am

This is a hint for you. In 2 months I will need to change my profile to "16-20"

Whooo-hooo! big man!

just kidding  Smile/happy/getting dizzy all is well!


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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sun Sep 16, 2001 6:59 am

I was just informing you. Not trying to prove anything.  Smile

Just making sure you don't mistake me for a 13 year-old. Big grin

Regards and God Bless.
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sun Sep 16, 2001 9:00 am

For once, I actually agree with you. What pains me to see is kids in my class, two in particular, who were raised in such religious backgrounds, one Jewish, one Christian, that their religions are so much better than Islam, and that Islam breaches violence. Fact of the matter is that it does not. If it did, then the Arab-American population would be less patriotic than it is.

Look at some comparisons:
Crusades (the drive to reconquer the holy land) and Missionaries=Jihad (the belief that the entire world must be converted to Islam)
KKK and Neo-Nazis=Hezbollah and Hamas
Nazi Germany (Hitler was a firm believer in Christianity, after all)=Afghanistan
Jews (specifically treatment of them in Spanish Inquisition and in WWII)= the regular citizen who lives in Afghanistan

Unfortunately, theology is a very difficult topic to argue because there is no truly right answer; it all depends on who you ask.
 
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RE: Terrorism Has No Religion

Sun Sep 16, 2001 9:29 am

Us330,

I'm glad you agree with me. Read my last reply in your "The People's Respone" post.

Regards.
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