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It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Wed Sep 19, 2001 8:20 pm

Okay, We have a 200MHz Pentium II with a 3 gig hard drive and 64 meg RAM. How much can we upgrade ourselves to keep up with the world cheaply? What advice do y'all have for us and what type of sys do y'all have?

Last time I checked, our system will give us $50 back, we bought it new for $1365!

BTW, I am a gamer and interet surfer, my lil'bro is also into the net but is into word processing, my mom and dad just like internet and e-mail.
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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Wed Sep 19, 2001 9:08 pm

Go to MS homepage and search for upgrades. There are so much, so I think it's hard to point out a speciell one.
For me the graphic card and soundcard is more or less the most important for me cause I fly alot on the pc, and have a surround speaker system connected.
This was not really to any help for you I guess (hm).
Anyway, take care.
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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Wed Sep 19, 2001 9:38 pm

The trend these days is to go for one of the entry level CPU's Duron or Celeron. I choose Duron as the Celeron just has no street credit where as the Duron can give the P3 a run for its money. Just remember to put a decent heatsink fan on cause these babies run HOT.

Next you need a good video card. These days the video card is the heart of a system If your a serious gamer you must have a GeForce2 DDR based card or GeForce3 if youve got a decent budget. I own the original GeForce2MX which is about 2.5 times faster then the MX-200. Salesmen will try and tell you GeForce 200mx with 64mb of ram is better cause of the ram this is total and utter shit. PS I play Quake 3 Arena most nights on the net I don't have to many problems I mean i pull about 120fps 1024*768

RAM is cheap so why not throw 256Mb in under Windows 9x no need for me. I run XP PRO and have 384mb

Hard drives I woudnt use anything other then the IBM Deskstar series, I own a 7200rpm 40Gb, an awsome drive. If your on a budget you cant go wrong with a 20Gb of the same make and to save more money yet get a high quality drive go for Western Digital.

Any questions give me a yell.
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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Wed Sep 19, 2001 9:55 pm

PIII-1000 or similar (cheaper than P4, better then Celery or AMD).
512MB RAM (256 is soooo puny, or will be soon).
GeForce2whateverthecurrenthypeacronymis card with 32 or 64MB RAM
2 UDMA100 harddisks, one for Windows, the other for data. I like Maxtor/Quantum for price/performance reasons as well as excellent service
Win2000 Pro, don't let anyone sucker you into Win98 or (shudder) WinMe.
High quality, fast mainboard. DO NOT SKIMP ON THIS, rather get a cheaper CPU and vidcard as the faster mobo will more than compensate!!!!!
If your current soundcard is PCI bus, reuse it. Otherwise get a decent PCI soundcard (I like Terratec cards).
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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:26 pm

Just a small input....

Go for a 32mb videocard! If you buy (and pay more) a 64mb you will not see the diffrense anyway. Many people have complained that the card does not live up to the 64mb, but only to 32mb. Reason is that it has to separate 32mb ships, so it is still only 32mb. Wich for me is more then enough for what I use it for.

looks like you are in to this, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Wed Sep 19, 2001 11:45 pm

If your broke then go for a p2 450mhz, voodoo3 or TNT2 and an extra 64mb ram bringing the total to 128 and a larger HD around 11-13 gigs. Such system would powerfull enough for just about any current application(except FS2000).

If you have some more cash, buy a new motherboard(abit, asus etc), a case, power supply, 20 gig drive, at least a 700mhz cpu, if the ram you have now is PC-100 you could use it with the new motherboard but buy an extra 64 to have a total of 128.

Then piece everything together and you will have one hell of a system that could be upgraded much more easily then anything you buy already built. It's quite easy and anyone can do it, not to mention much cheaper than if you were to buy the same system already made. If you are interested in going this way, email me and I will give some suggestions as to which components you should use and offer any other assistence.
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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Thu Sep 20, 2001 4:49 am

If you got the money go for an AMD Athalon processor around 1.3 gigahertz. If not, a P3 750 or so is quite capable of running everything I have tried on it. Anything above 128 would be acceptable by today's standards. I reccomend 256, especially if you're gaming. The video card is the most important for gaming and 32 megs is suitable for most if not all games. As for hard drives, go as big as you can afford. I got 12 gigs and it's full. I also reccomend a burner, they're quite cheap now and it allows you to archive a lot of stuff you don't want to get rid of.

As for the OS, get Windows 2000, ME sucks!!! 98 is also fine if you would rather wait to see what XP brings.
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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Thu Sep 20, 2001 5:45 am

If you put linux on your machine you will fine there is not need to upgrade yet to a better machine.

With Linux you can use "wine" to run windows compatible programs.

the good on linux is you can have all the fonctions of a Windows machine for free.

And you don't need to restart you computer avery hours or days.

The last time I rebooted my home pc was last december.

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RE: It's That Time Again: Computer Upgrades

Thu Sep 20, 2001 6:50 am

SUDDEN yeh mate your right. To notice the difference between RAM 32 > 64 on a video card you need to run a stupidly high res like 5000*5000 (find a monitor thatll do this) and you have to run 32bit colour, when it comes to gaming your not going to sit and admire the little difference youll get, only go for the 64mb if you have to some DDR geforce2 cards come only with 64mb.

YKA the ram sounds more like it's PC66 or worse yet EDO 72pin, yes EDO72pin was brought out on P2 mobos in which case I would definatly go for some new ram, I use Kingmax PC-150, kingmax has a lifetime warranty although few dealers actually honour more then 12 months its still good.

Difference between Intel and AMD.
As far as performance goes AMD chips kick the Intel in the pants fullstop.

Build quality, Intel lives up to there quality name the entire chip is high quality where as AMD build very fragile hot running chips. However, I consider them so cheap if I was stupid enough to break one Id just replace it.

I have 15 duron 800 machines and 1 Tbird 1ghz machine at work all with 256mb ram, we run accounting software and they absoultly hoot. alot of problems with this years revision of the suite and the AMD machines are some of the only ones living up, Ive heard other companies Intel machines are dieing after 6 returns, my machines are going for a week and we turn them off on weekends, then again my intel machines dont miss a beat either

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