airmale
Posts: 7125
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:48 pm

How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 2:45 am

I have heard that the Times of London had printed news of a lot of people of Jewish and Israeli (4000 according to them) background not showing up for work on the 11th of Sept and that some Israeli official cancelled a trip to NY also, so are the US not looking into this Confused
.....up there with the best!
 
Marco
Posts: 4005
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2000 3:41 pm

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:06 am

Colin Powell said that the USA will release evidence linking Osama bin Laden to the horrendous attacks. I don't think that the mossad would be responsible for this. Airmale, most of us understand by now, you think that Israel's behind this, you think Israel's behind everything that's going on in this world!
Proud to be an Assyrian!
 
ryanb741
Posts: 5058
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:36 pm

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:07 am

Unlikely. This attack does not enhnace Israel's favour, so why would they do it? The USA will totally review its Middle East policy after the military assaults (otherwise its coalition will fail) and I think we will see Israel being forced to adhere to UN law. Mossad would have known this, so I cannot think why they should want to do this.
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
ryanb741
Posts: 5058
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:36 pm

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:10 am

By the way, I live in London and can assure you there is no such paper as the 'Times of London'!
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
BarfBag
Posts: 2374
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2001 7:13 am

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:11 am

According to snopes.com, the stories of 4000 Jewish people keeping off from work on 9/11 are an urban legend.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/israel.htm
 
Marco
Posts: 4005
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2000 3:41 pm

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 3:14 am

BarfBag I agree with you. I'm not too sure about the figure, but approximately 100 Israeli Jews lost their lives.
Proud to be an Assyrian!
 
advancedkid
Posts: 740
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2000 1:27 pm

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 5:04 am

Hi there,
and about 1000 innocent Arabs lost their lives in that
horrific massacre too.
regards,
Advanced
 
PANYNJ
Posts: 204
Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2001 5:03 am

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 5:50 am

So?

An Arab still did it, and he was doing it because he thought is religion (ISLAM) commanded him to.

So whats your point Advancedkid?

PANYNJ
 
Guest

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 5:57 am

How can we be sure Pakistan doesn't support terrorism?

How can we be sure Musharraf is only supporting the US because he wants favors?

How can we be sure Pakistan isn't full of crazed Islamic militants?

How can we be sure Bin Laden isn't hiding in Peshawar right now?

How can we be sure that Iraq won't attack Israel to break up the "coalition against terror"

How can we be sure that your not a complete fucking moron who hates Israel simply because your religion tells you so?

Answer: We can't. So yup, the Mossad did it and now Israel is happy because when the war starts and the Arabs join with the US to fight Bin Laden, Israel will sit comfortably not worried about scud attacks or Hamas suicide bombings or anything. Well done Paki., your brilliant.

TNNH
 
BarfBag
Posts: 2374
Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2001 7:13 am

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 6:14 am

There are plenty of theories floating about. Here's something from a guy who headed Pakistan's equivalent of the Mossad. There are some fantastic allegations in it, including the statement that the Mossad did it and that the Israelis and Indians are plotting to destroy Pakistans 'Islamic' nuclear bombs, a la Osiraq. Interesting reading... after all, the Taliban is the brainchild of guys like Gul and Naseerullah Babar, another ISI head. It is only a matter of time before the terrorist trails from the Taliban lead to Pakistan. Afghanistan is just a place where the jihadis from Pakistan's theological schools are let loose to cultivate opium and go an fight in places like Chechnya, Kashmir, the Middle East and elsewhere. And of course, terrorize the locals in the pretext of Islam. And now they are collaborating with the US above the table and also stoking the Taliban under the table... its gonna be a messy war.

'Jews Attacked The WTC'
A former Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) chief and now head of the Tehrik-e-Jehad, Hamid Gul warns the US against venturing into the treacherous hole that is Kabul
HAMID GUL

Let me first put the record straight: the Jews have stabbed United States President George W. Bush in the back. I have no doubt that it is they who orchestrated the dastardly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon buildings. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon masterminded the terrorist attacks of September 11 in order to push the Muslim world and the US into war. Earlier, former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu had on record threatened to set Washington afire were it to persist in pursuing policies detrimental to his country.
Now that Washington seems to be pressing ahead with its plan of attacking Afghanistan, I would want to warn Bush that he might find himself sucked into a quagmire.

The US has little experience of the country’s terrain. You can easily get inside Afghanistan. But you can’t get out of that country as easily. Afghans are Afghans, they can’t be cowed down. Had they not been so obstinate, so crude, so uncouth, they wouldn’t have defeated two superpowers in a span of 80 years. I just can’t understand why the US now wants to step into that treacherous hole.

As Washington’s friend, I think we should warn the Americans that Kabul isn’t a place for misadventure. The Afghans could pull the US into the same situation from which the Russians took 10 long years to extricate themselves. The Taliban are ferocious fighters. Even otherwise, history shows that whenever Afghanistan has been attacked, all the warring factions unite immediately to counter the invaders.

The emerging situation is fraught with serious consequences for Pakistan, too. There is bound to be a volatile reaction in Pakistan if Islamabad was to allow its territory to be accessed by the US for attacking Afghanistan. I think the response in the nwfp and Baluchistan will be beyond imagination because people in these two provinces have strong ethnic ties with the Afghans.

I think a powerful resistance will soon develop against the US decision to attack Afghanistan. This is because Washington has been responsible for immeasurable bloodshed across the globe, especially in the Muslim world. At the moment, only a few political forces in Pakistan are in favour of President Bush’s action, and even they are doing it for their own narrow interests. The Pakistan military government should refrain from toeing the US line or else a time will come when the spontaneous upsurge of the masses will simply wash it away.

Musharraf’s attempt to build a consensus over his new Afghan policy is a sham. He met politicians, religious leaders and editors to only apprise them of his decision to support the US, not to consult them.

Islamabad should be extremely wary of Washington’s intentions. Even if the Osama issue is resolved in accordance with Washington’s aspirations, the US would still want to contain Pakistan’s nuclear programme. It is perturbed over Islamabad’s growing relations with Beijing, particularly after the recent signing of the Gwadar Deep Sea Port Project, which the US thinks is a threat to its interest in the Gulf. It is true there are two contradictory opinions in the Muslim world about supporting Washington’s military campaign against Afghanistan. There is the common man who hates the US for its crimes against the Islamic world. On the other hand, there are monarchs, autocrats and military rulers who support the US to protect their own interests.

Yet, the region will soon be in a ferment and its people will rise against the imperialism of the US.That is why I cannot understand the reason for India’s jubilation. New Delhi should know that Afghanistan, historically, has protected the entire South Asia from aggressors. There have been reports that India offered its Jodhpur base to the US for launching military attacks against Kabul. Jodhpur has little importance in Washington’s plan to attack Afghanistan. But, it is true that Jodhpur is of immense significance to Pakistan. For it was here in 1987 that Israeli pilots were seen flying Air Force jet fighters. Their aim quite simply was to attack Pakistani nuclear installations. But Pakistan issued a warning and the then Indian prime minister Rajiv Gandhi intervened and aborted the plan.



 
airbus380
Posts: 1575
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:50 am

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 6:23 am

I'm sure that the US Government is looking into every single lead.
 
IndianGuy
Posts: 3126
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2000 3:14 pm

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 5:21 pm

Airmale:that was pretty dumb. even by your standards.

By god! thats the stupidest thing i've heard. Israel has been a victim of terrorism, and has never been a perpetrator of such acts. Such acts are the speciality of "other" people, u know who!
 
Guest

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 5:46 pm

Now at least we know WHO is behind: it is Ariel Sharon!!!
"Let me first put the record straight: the Jews have stabbed United States President George W. Bush in the back. I have no doubt that it is they who orchestrated the dastardly attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon buildings. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon masterminded the terrorist attacks of September 11 in order to push the Muslim world and the US into war"

To read such a BS is frightening, and even more when one knows it hasn't been written by a brainwashed unsignificant street demonstrator...


BTW, any normal person with a functionning brain can easily see how Israel's position has begun to deteriorate since the disaster; and this is not at all astonishing.

The "Times of London", yes yes yes...
 
go canada!
Posts: 2886
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2001 1:33 am

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 11:19 pm

"I have heard that the Times of London"

eh..i live near london, thee is only one london newspapers called the evenign standar and that supports the americans and attacks bin laden.

Do you mean The Times, the british newspaper owned by rupert murodch?That newspaper supports the usa/uk and also attacks bin laden.

Israel has lost out in this, not gained from it, already the biritsh government aare not givng a damm abou what sharon thinks by telling iran that israel has itself to balme for its bombers when it keeps pinching more land and by referring to palestine as being a full state rather than 'palestine terroritories'.

sharon then threw a fit and would not meet the uk foregin minister, only for the uk to tell him where to go and to grow up, so much so that sharon has backed down, agreed to met him, the birtish government refuses to apologise to israel and the americans have forced sharon to allow peres,a moderate in his government to meet with arafat for peace tals.

not to menion the us insiting that israel has to agree to a ceasefire without conditions.

israel is being marginalised because the usa and the uk realise that you will not get moderate arab states supporting attacks on afghansitan with sharons carrying on.

hardly think sharon wants to start losing us support and pissing off the uk means that he has lost someone who stops the EU being more pro-palestine than countires like france would like to be.
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
 
ryanb741
Posts: 5058
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:36 pm

RE: Go Canada

Tue Sep 25, 2001 11:28 pm

Exactly. That is what I alluded to in my earlier post. Israel will lose out in the long term, so that is why I highly doubted that Mossad would be involved.

In any case, we know the kidnappers were Arab, so what Arab in his right mind is going to die for Israel of all countries!
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
go canada!
Posts: 2886
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2001 1:33 am

RE: How Can We Be Sure That Mossad Were Not Involved?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 11:57 pm

Right im settng the record straight to pro-arabs and to pro-israelies.

the easy thing for the usa to do IS TO BLAME ISRAEL.if Israel was behind these attacks, dont you think the usa and the uk wouldnt know?

do you think the usa woud goto the troubleof being nice to pakistan and to arrnage santcions to be lifted if it knew israel did ths?

Dont you think britain wouldnt goto the trouble of being ncie to iran and to jet half across the world in order to build up a fragile coalition, knowing full well that the moderate muslim states wont like it if afghan civilians die.

dont you think it would be economcially, politically, dimplomatically and military easier to blame israel, bomb it, wipe out its nuclear bases rather the send in troops to a military minefiled, risk thousands of american and british troop deaths and to risk starting world war three if it was israeles fault?

attacking irael would be the one thing to UNITE THE middle east and to bring statbility to the region, if the usa and the uk told it were to go then israel would be unprotected against a sea of hostile states.

dont you think if israel was bombed that it would shut up iraq and the terrorists who call the uSA the 'great satan' because it would have attacked the evil israel.

dont you think it wouldnt unite the arabs?
dont you think the EU wouldnt blame israel if it had a chance, because the eu is pro-arab?

do you honestly see countries not backing americaand the uk if they blmae israel, showed the proof and attacked it.

nobody likes israel, they are only nice because of the americans and the british andif they removed their support they would win a whole load of arab friends.

dont you think the arab terrorists would look pretty stupid if they attacked the usa in the future?

at least thrity groups wouldnt have an reason to attack the usa.

most terror groups attack the usa because of israel, if israel was bombed they would shut up.

the israel lobbying of the usa government is less now, the power of the jews in america has wained and dot you think hen risk upsetting he whole islamic world it is far easier to remove the reason why they are uset rather than support it.

answer me that air male, answer me that real high.
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ZB052 and 17 guests