SR3496
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During My Stay In The US This Happend...

Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:38 pm

I just want to tell you what I have experienced one week ago in the US.

We drove on I-8 East between Yuma and Tucson, Arizona with our rent-a-car. There are from time to time such ‘inspection pullouts’. I think it’s for the trucks, but I’m not sure. Anywayz at that inspection pullout every car had to leave the highway and drive to this point. And there were some police officers and each car had to stop. There weren’t many cars in front of us. Each car stopped at the line and about 10 seconds later it drove away back to the normal highway. Then we were next and stopped next to the police officer. He asked how we’re doing and where we came from. We said we came from Mexico over Yuma and wanted to go to Phoenix. He looked at us and asked for our passports. Then he realised that we were Swiss. He took the passports and browse through one. Page by page, this took a lot of time. Then he said if we could park our car next to a police car. And another officer came. We had to leave our car, open the boot and so on. They made a control. Look under the seats and into our baggage. After some minutes they have finished and we drove away direction Phoenix.

This does not really seem special, just a routine control. Yes, that’s right. But the reason why we were controlled is not normal. This was not a random control. Like they took every 100th car, every car with 4 people in it or every car with a California plate.
No, they controlled us because the officer saw the stamps and visas in our passport. Ok, there were stamps from countries where he didn’t even know where they were exactly like São Tomé, Mozambique, Mali, Azerbaijan, and many more but should he care about that fact!? This can’t be a reason to check us. This is too ridiculous and even discriminating. My father asked him (after they finished their work) why we wanted to control us and he said that so many stamps in a Swiss (!) passport wouldn’t be normal and he bacame suspicious. This is soooo stupid. If we’d have had a ‘clean’ passport he wouldn’t have controlled our car.

Well, I do not have something against the increased security within the US. But such a control is senseless, a waste of time and does not increase the security in the states at all.
We didn’t expect that the police officer would say thank you for travelling to the US. But this form of discrimination shouldn’t exist in a nation like the US. Where is the nation where everyone is equal in front of the police, where is the tolerance...gone?

That’s it. Thank you for reading and I whish I can come to the US again as a tourist without having such stupid controls, because it’s a great place and I like to travel to the United States.

SR3496
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:49 pm

OK, so what's the problem?
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Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:53 pm

Do you have problem with that??? I was stopped many times just for rutine control. Sometimes it take ages for police officer to check driver licence and crap like that.
Because you had passports not regular ID he checked you. It doesnt matter if you have plenty of stamps from other countries, he did it because you are outsider. ANd they are scared.
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Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:55 pm

It's called taking no chances. Unfortunately, the days where we just trust everyone are over. It's not like you were held in prison, SR3496. You're car was checked. I think you'd find a lot more intrusive searches going on in other places around the world.
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:55 pm

The problem is that I have to waste my time just due to the fact that I'm Swiss and not American. This is a discrimination (well, not a big one but a small one and such things should be stopped).
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:56 pm

No, that's "PROTECTION" . You want discrimination?

Wander to the part of the world where everyone who's not Muslim is "an infidel". I happen to think, and I'm sure I'll get backed up on this, that 'infidel' is about as racist a term as any.
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:58 pm

Discrimination? Did they stop only Swiss citizens with passports and rental cars? I doubt it. What they did is the same thing we're now doing at the departure doors at airports here-continuous, RANDOM checks and searches. They probably couldn't tell you were Swiss until you showed your passports! What about the Arizonan, the Mexican, the Californian, who probably got stopped as well? It's only discrimination if you're checking one certain group. I doubt that Swiss citizens in rental cars are in great numbers in Arizona. Get a grip.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:02 am

I know that this seems strange for you that I come along and complain about such a detail. (But your all from the US.)
And look, I just want to say that in Switzerland e.g. this wouldn't happen to any of you.
And I never had such a control before in the US.
I do also know that in other countries (mostly third world counrties) that's routine. You don't have to tell me that, I experienced it already a lot of times!

 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:03 am

What were you doing in Sao Tome e Principe, Mali and Mozambique anyway? What's it like in those places? I'd like to travel to Africa, but I've heard such bad things that I'm scared to go.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:06 am

Alpha 1:
No, that's exactly my point. They stopped all cars. But we were the only one who were really checked (and not only say hello and goodbye). And the officer even said that our passport (with the stamps and the visas) were the reason for this control. It was not a random search.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:07 am

Sr3496, if in Switzerland, you find yourself in the wake of an attack that killed 6000 people on your soil; when a group of people or a country declare war on you in such a way, such things may very well happen in Switzerland. Remember that in all your complaining. Remember whence this "discrimination" came from. It was from an act of war. Clear enough?
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:08 am

Geez...
The moment i saw this topic i thought it would be something like this, checking someone because of being Swiss and having many stamps in your passport!!!!
This is just CRAZY. I hope they won't check me for being a Finn who has been to Russia when i (hopefully) visit The US next summer.

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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:19 am

Alpha 1:
I know about who started that war. But I went to the US for vacation. Remember: I brought money into your country as a tourist and I did not attack the US. So why check me? Give me a good reason. Can you find one?

Airways 1:
I travelled to these countries for vacation. All these are great places. I've been in a few more African countries, if you like more information, please send me an e-mail.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:27 am

I'll give you 6000 good reasons!! The fact is that look what happened when we just trusted everyone to be good sports-we got attacked! The fact you got picked out was RANDOM!! Stop taking it so personally!! You'd think they were looking at you from the second you entered the country. That's not the way it happened!

You say "why me?" Why the native of Arizona who ended up getting stopped? And I guarantee you more than one Arizonan got stopped! I'll bet among the hundreds that were being stopped ,you were probably the only Swiss citizen to be stopped. The rest were mostly Americans. But they obviously understand why, even though the reasons seem to fly right over your head.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:30 am

SR3496

So you went to the US on vacation and took a few dollars to spend, so what.

Some of the pilots Bin Laden hired each had $50,000US to spend in America.

Don't be so paranoid, as Alpha 1 said, had the boot been on the other foot and someone had killed thousands of Swiss wouldn't you want to know that your authorities were checking people out. I know I would. A little delay is a small price to pay knowing that you are going to be a lot safer than you were pre September 11.

If it gets to you that much, just stay at home.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:32 am

I sense a "Why check on me? I'm WHITE!" vibe here, but thats way too much assumption on my part. For what its' worth, I was born and raised here, I'm a big, white, buzzcut drill sargent looking dude, and I had to spend 5 minutes as my car was searched inside and out just going to the airport to pick my mom up last night!

In any case, Alpha is 100 percent correct....you say none of this would happen to visitors in Switzerland. I dont expect you to understand, you come from a country that has been carefully neutral for a great while. But if a group had committed a barbaric act of terrorism on your soil, then made it clear they can't wait to do it again....I have no doubts that security in your country would be just as abrupt.

As an American, I apologized that you felt slighted. I simply ask your understanding about what kind of a world we're living in now.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:35 am

SR-

On behalf of all US Citizens, I apologize for any offense you may have taken. We (collectively) are pretty new at this "internal security" thing.

But remember this. Before September 11th, most of the attackers could have said, in similar circumstances, "I brought money into your country as a visiting student, spent thousands patronizing your fine flight schools and paying sales taxes, and I did not attack the US [yet]."

They are operating upon the premise (mostly valid, one thinks, with notable exceptions- see, Timothy McVeigh) that the majority of potential terrorists are from outside the country; and that the more time you have spent outside the "mainstream" countries (whatever that might mean), the more likely it is that you have potential connections with subversive or terrorist elements.
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:43 am

Boo hoo SR3496. I don't feel sorry for you. You feel violated because you think you were checked because you were a foreigner here in the U.S. How do you think WE feel as Americans having to be checked in our own country!?!??


Get over it. This is why the terrorist acts of 9/11 affected ALL people of the world, not just Americans. Consider yourself educated now.



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Wed Oct 24, 2001 12:53 am

Nothing to worry about, our passports were checked when we drove into Switzerland with a Belgian registered car, doubt they check passports on Swiss cars....
Why did they check us and not everyone else? We're foreigners...damn....discrimination...I think not! Just checking who they are letting in to the country.

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Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:05 am

I do not have anything aganist these controls, I have nothing against that they check us, but I have something against the fact that the did this control due to the fact that I have a lot of stamps and visas in my Swiss passport.

And look, I do not hide where I've been. I could also make a new passport in Switzerland before travelling to the US and come with a 'clean' one. But no, I do not because I've nothing to hide. The fact that someone has no stamps in the passport does not mean that he/she didn't travel before...
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:07 am

Swiss banks ???, neutral ???, perfect ???, arms manufacturing ???  Big grin
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:14 am

SR3496, sounds like you're complaining more that they DIDN'T discriminate. You're whining because a Swiss passport should have exempted you from a search. That's what I'm hearing. If you think you should get the same treatment as locals, then you're out of your mind.
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:19 am

SR3496...

Don't talk to me about control if you're Swiss.

The Swiss have had submachine gun toting soldiers in their airports for the last 10 years or more....what's that ???

So they checked you out...boohoo...I'm a white male from Canada and have been profiled by my own customs people at the border and had my car gone thru with a fine tooth comb. It's no big deal....grow up.

Don't come back next time...OK !!!
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:26 am

I know about the Swiss banks and the 'neutral' and so on...tell me a country which is innocent!  Wink/being sarcastic

JetService:
Look, they checked me because of the combination of two things:
- Foreign passport
- a lot of stamps and visas
But this combination shouldn't be a reason to check someone, at least in my opinion.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:45 am

Let me ask you something SR3496: did they know about your passports and stamps BEFORE they pulled you over? If the answer to that is no-and that is the correct answer-then I don't understand your gripe. So they asked for ID. And when you showed them a lot of passports with stamps, it's a good bet they were looking for stamps from countries that support and protect terrorists. I'm willing to bet. And they obviously looked carefully, so what's the big deal. Just because you come from a neutral country doesn't exclude you from being checked!
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 1:50 am

I would be willing that if you had a US Passport with all of those countries, you would have received the same treatment.

What is a reason to check someone? Should they only be wearing turbans and toting machine guns?
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:04 am

SR3496 if you know about the Swiss banks etc and the U.S. government's stand on terrorist bank accounts being "frozen" and are such a world traveler (as any proper perfectly neutral Swiss citizen should be) don't you think that AFTER you were stopped and DURING your inspection the police may have been slightly more interested in your activities than say a non-perfect non Swiss or any other nationality for that matter person ???

To me it sounds more like just good ploice work rather than that infamous anti-Swiss movement that is soooooo much in vouge here in the U.S., time for the formation of a SDL (Swiss Defence League)
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:07 am

I do not see what the big deal is. The US police do tha all the time, in Socal, if you are young and in a nice car, you will get pulled over by the police for no reason (they make up some BS though!).
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:51 am

JetService

But did the Americans get searched this way? No.

Zulu Alpha
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:58 am

OH-LZA read my posts, we get the same crap from police you did!
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:14 am

Don't take it personal: He probably did not think you had anything to do with terrorists. He probably thought you were just smuggling drugs. Had you not mentioned that you just arrived from Mexico, he might not even have asked you for passports. Then, seeing all those exotic stamps, he probably rejoiced in the hope that he'd find all kinds of drugs in your car, so they searched it. They did not find anything (to his great disappointment) and they sent you off on your way again. Pretty standard thing for policepeople to do.

Besides, someone who travels as much as you probably can afford it, so you are probably richer than him. Envy of your family's wealth might have been a factor, too. As long as they did not insist on a cavity search, I don't get what the big problem is. Cops need to feel important, so they search people. And how do they choose the people they search? Anyone who looks suspicious to them (i.e. anyone whose face (or hair or clothes or sunglasses) they don't like)

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Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:22 am

Keep in mind that in the Southwest US, and that part of AZ in particular, there is the huge problem of smuggling both people and drugs across the Mexican border. I myself have been given the 20 questions treatment on that stretch of highway. Did you also notice the Border Patrol trucks everywhere in the desert south of the highway? It's been an issue for years there, made that much worse in the shadow of 9/11 and subsequent anthrax attacks. I, too, am sorry you feel slighted by this search and hope it was the only negative part of your trip here. But look at it this way: You didn't fit a profile to be stopped, but instead you did NOT fit the profile of folks that they were letting through. That was the 95% of cars that were just US citizens who were just going to/from CA as part of daily routine. I know, it's really the same thing, but this may be a different way of looking at things. You may also have been searched if you were a US citizen acting nervously, a Mexican national in a van with 20 people, appeared to be of street gang affiliation, you get the idea. It is a difficult time here in the US; one of unprecedented nervousness about out security in our homeland. We have to do all we can to reduce the risks to us all, including yourself when you were visiting the US, in any way we can. Since it is unrealistic to stop every vehicle, it is best to concentrate of the <5% that are somehow non-routine and out of the ordinary. Such as a Swiss vacationer. Sorry again that you were offended, but think of how stupid it would be, in light of known threats, to experience another tragedy, say a small nuke detonated in downtown LA or Phoenix, and find out that it was driven right across the border and never been given a chance to be stopped because it is "wrong" to stop unusual traffic. Glad you are safe and hope you try to understand the reasons.

Jim
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:33 am


I remember being stopped with my mom in southern Arizona back in 1993 for an agricultural checkpoint. Perhaps this is what it was and they figured foreign tourists who had just been to Mexico might be more likely to have unauthorized food with them than the average Arizona car passing through.

SR3496- Who was doing the inspection? Federal agents (Dept. of Agriculture, Border Patrol, etc.)? State police or highway patrol? County Sheriff's Department? Who?
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:37 am

Mls515:
That's another very good point I had meant to mention, but forgot while writing that short novel above...
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:40 am

Going west on Interstate 80 just after the California border (after leaving Nevada), there was a checkpoint where guards asked us if we were carring any fruit/vegetables. What was behind that stop?

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Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:41 am

SR3496 said "I do not have anything aganist these controls, I have nothing against that they check us, but I have something against the fact that the did this control due to the fact that I have a lot of stamps and visas in my Swiss passport"

My guess is you had a special check more because you were foreign...with a foreign accent. The cop probably told you it was about the stamps in your passport because it sounded like a good excuse. If this is true....can you blame us for being especially sensitive to foreigners during these times?


OH-LZA said "But did the Americans get searched this way?"

No.....and I don't see anything wrong with checking foreign nationals especially closely.

I recently took Soutwest Airlines from STL to GEG. I bought my ticket spur of the moment with cash...which triggered me for extra security. I was patted down twice. Wanded twice. My one carry on was completely searched twice. And my checked bag was hand searched, with me present, before it went on the belt. I'm a US citizen with a US passport and a card carrying airline pilot...but I triggered the extra precautions because I fit the profile standards which called for them.

I had no problem submitting to the extra security...in fact....I'm glad they are doing it. Foreigners traveling in the US can expect to be checked more than in the past and I have no problem with that, either.

 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:55 am

More and more I'm beginning to fancy the idea of breaking up the army, police and whatever authorities there are and introduce a Wild West system where everyone would carry a gun and defend themselves. What's all this bullshit about humiliating everyone in the name of 'protection'? I'm one who doesn't care for protection, I just want to be left alone!
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 4:11 am

The American cops are very thorough. The same thing happend to me when i was in the Staates, during a regular traffic control the cops started to search our rental car. But i have no problems with that.

The same thing when you buy a beer or smokes in the USA, in the eyes of a european it is exaggerated and ridicolous that they make an ID check every time but it is their law and i respect it. If not i can spend my vacations elsewhere.

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Wed Oct 24, 2001 4:14 am

I don't know which police/force it was. But definitly not the Border patrol (they stopped us twice before) and not a fruit check (these I know from various enterings to California by car). But I really can't tell you for sure who it was.
I do see some your points but I still think that it is not a reason to check us. The reason he gave us was not a proper one. Maybe he just looked for drugs, I don't care what he searched. But why then give us that stupid argument.
Anywayz the last part that Ikarus wrote could be a very realistic one. I didn't think about that.


 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 5:51 am

>>Envy of your family's wealth might have been a factor, too.<<

That is such BS...
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 6:41 am

SR3496,

It's what you call "security". You posted this just because you got checked more than American citizens because you're a foreignor???????

Good God man, what do you expect? Let's say I was going to Sweden, who do you think would get more checked:

A. Me
B. A Swiss Citizen


HMMMMMMMMMM, THINK ABOUT IT.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 6:42 am

Let's say I was going to Sweden

Ooops, I meant Switzerland. My bad.  Big thumbs up
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 8:15 am

Well, I see the terrorists' plans have worked out superbly well. Not only are we divided by fear and suspicion, but our freedoms have been curtailed as well.

They've just scored themselves a point.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 8:42 am

As long as they stay reasonably polite and don´t harrass people, I don´t have a problem with controls.

We all would like to be back in those innocent times again... But there´s no chance of that for now. Checking people with well-used passports a little more thoroughly isn´t all that unreasonable.

There´s a reason why criminals and terrorists are known to take the pains of getting new passports from time to time. Which can still be difficult and time-consuming ("I´ve lost my passport!...").

But I would still guess swiss tourists might not be the biggest threat right now...  Wink/being sarcastic

We all need to relax a little, I´d say. (Even while being careful.)
 
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Hepkat

Wed Oct 24, 2001 8:52 am

Hepkat: Well, I see the terrorists' plans have worked out superbly well. Not only are we divided by fear and suspicion, but our freedoms have been curtailed as well. They've just scored themselves a point.

No, I´m quite sure they haven´t.

We may be bickering and even yelling more than usual. But We´re still very much united when it´s about the important basics.

And as long as restrictions of our freedom are still up for serious discussion, it´s a little too early to resignate...  Big thumbs up
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2001 9:36 am

SR3496,

Mate, I don't know what on earth you are complaining about. Just be thankful you were not thoroughly searched! (snap of rubber gloves) You have to understand what the USA and it's citizens have just gone through. They are trying their best to prevent anything like the 09/11 attacks from happening again.

You complaint seems a little arrogant. Do you feel that as a Swiss citizen you should be treated any differently? If I was a customs control officer (in Australia or anywhere else) and I checked your passport and found those dubious African nations stamps in their I would be immediately directing a search of your luggage.

Don't you think such a minor inconvenience is worth a level of safety? Especially since you were travelling in the country concerned? Or do you not get it?

Sheesh,

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Wed Oct 24, 2001 9:42 am

I agree with what Mx_5 boy (and others). Doing that is their job. They have to look for the slightest suspicious thing, and sometimes search people for no reason at all. It's nothing personal, they HAVE to suspect everyone. Look at these 19 hijackers, anybody looking at them before the attack would think they are normal americans.
 
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Fri Oct 26, 2001 6:11 pm

SR3496:
I agree with you. American officers get nervous about foreigners. And that's before sept.11.
I once crossed the border from Tijuana to San Diego by foot. The immigration officer saw my passport with stamps from Argentina, he got very nervous and asked me what i was doing in that country. And that was before the attacks... I think they're just too localists, and they do not understand that people like to travel to other non-US countries.
It's good I haven't tried that now that i got stamps from Nepal, Thailand, Ireland, Australia, Costa Rica, etc.
Regards.
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SR3496

Fri Oct 26, 2001 7:20 pm

It's nothing personal.
 
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RE: During My Stay In The US This Happend...

Sun Oct 28, 2001 7:46 am

Many terrorists come into the United States come through Canada or Mexico. So, naturally if you came in through Mexico with passports from volatile African countries, premumably with large Muslim populations the police would be suspicious.

It's not just that way in the United States.

A Canadian friend of my family was travelling from his home in Toronto to the US to visit for pleasure. He also planned on conducting a little bit of business, but he declared his trip as 'Pleasure,' so now he's stranded in Vancouver because the Canadian government finds his posession of business documents on a pleasure trip across the border to be suspicious. If you want to talk about a rediculous reason for not admitting a white, middle-aged Canadian citizen across the border, that's it. The only other country for which he is stamped is Australia.
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