ryu2
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Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:06 am

How many "votes" must a post get, for a rating to be visible publically? I have seen star ratings for posts with as few as 8 views, but some posts with 40+ replies and 1200+ views have no visible star rating.

I'm just curious.

Also, will you implement the ratings of REPLIES to a post as well anytime soon (I realize you are busy right now with server issues), but there are many threads where some replies are worthless, and some are excellent, and they need to be separately rated.
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:18 am

I don't know, but I just rated this sorry ass thread '1 star' and it didn't show up  Big grin
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:29 am

Good question ! Five *, no doubt.

Regards, SN-A330
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ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:32 am

I saw a two star rating for this post, with 17 views. Strangely, other posts of mine with > 1000 views do not have visible ratings.
 
EGGD
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:57 am

Because people have to rate them first..

I believe it is between 3 to 5 votes before they get a star rating.

Regards

Dan
 
ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 7:08 am

But it's strange that a post with 1000 views could not get even 3-5 ratings?
 
SSTjumbo
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 11:45 am

I don't know, but there are three stars now, I'll try a four rating...
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 11:52 am

RY2,
People can rate topics differently, it isn't rated on how many views it gets. The worse the topic, the more votes it gets, for the worse. Those votes make it the 1-2 stars...

-Peace In-
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ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 12:12 pm

I understand that, 174thfwff.

My question is HOW MANY TIMES must a post be rated before the STARS are visible in the main forum screen?
 
174thfwff
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Oct 31, 2001 1:22 pm

sorry, I would immagine a few just to let them average out. My guess would be 7 or 8

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ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Fri Nov 02, 2001 4:40 pm

So... will Johan give us an "official" answer?

Then again, he seems to keep us in the dark about many things.

My guess is that it isn't a constant, but the algorithm uses the standard deviation of the ratings -- as I've noticed some topics which would probably be rated very high or low by almost everybody get their ratings displayed quickly relative to the number of views, while "controversial" topics, where people might rate it high OR low don't show stars until a much higher number of views.

Hmmm... am I right?
 
ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Mon Nov 05, 2001 7:58 pm

The topic "TWA To Cease Operations On December 1" on the Civil Aviation forum, as of right now, has a visible rating of 5 stars, but yet only 4 (FOUR) page views... interesting. I guess this sets a new least upper bound for the minimum number of ratings needed for stars to be visible in a post.

Still interested in the official word from Johan...  Smile

 
ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Nov 07, 2001 4:55 am

Still interested, Johan!
 
ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Fri Nov 09, 2001 12:04 pm

Another thing, if Johan isn't ignoring this post, often times when I rate a post, it will say I have already rated it when I haven't!

Is it a stale cookie or something? This bug should be investigated.
 
ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Mon Nov 19, 2001 3:12 pm



OK, check this out guys. How can one post have just 3 views and have a VISIBLE stars rating, and for many other posts with HUNDREDS of views, there are no stars visible?

C'mon Johan, won't you enlighten us as to this mystery or paradox.

And yes, I know that I have absolutely no life in asking this question  Smile
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:02 pm

Cool!!!

My post got 5 stars without a single reply!

Kinda curious indeed!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
ryu2
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Poll!

Tue Nov 20, 2001 6:19 pm

What do you guys think is more likely to happen:

1. Southwest buys A380s and uses them to start a JFK-LHR run.

2. Johan actually manages to reply to posts or emails that just ask very simple questions like this one.
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Nov 21, 2001 2:39 am

Southwest buys A380s and uses them to start a JFK-LHR run. Big grin

Josh
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Nov 21, 2001 3:07 am

I'm with my friend Josh! Big grin
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Wed Nov 21, 2001 5:25 am

Yeah...
KM buys A380s, builds an airport in Gozo and flies MLA-GZM on A380s rather than Mi-8s as Malta Aircharter...
-turbolet
 
ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Thu Nov 29, 2001 12:56 pm

Another suggestion: we should be able to CHANGE our ratings of posts by re-voting, with only the most recent vote counting. Many threads start out great, and degenerate into garbage (for example, the recent post here about the UA 93 article in Newsweek).

Conversely, some threads start out bad, but get better once people start asking interesting questions.
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Thu Nov 29, 2001 2:54 pm

I don't know, do you really think the "rating" field is a good idea? It's something we're tried now for a few months but it seems most posts go unrated. And even if a post got five starts, that doesn't say much about it as there's so few of you actually voting.

I suggest we remove the "rate" field and add a "last reply by" field instead containing the username of the user who replied last. Or do you have other ideas? Don't hesitate to let me know, I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks,
Johan
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:27 pm

Hrmmm...I hardly ever look at the rating field personally, because I know people will judge low because of personal grudges, or vice versa.

Not a bad idea.
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EGFF
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Thu Nov 29, 2001 7:42 pm

im up for the 'Last Person To Reply' thing, good thinking Johan  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Fri Nov 30, 2001 5:23 am

I'm with Johan's suggestion to ditch the rating field and just display the last replied by username; that's what most other forums on the Web do.

BTW, Johan, you still need to answer my original question in this thread!!!!!  Big grin
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Fri Nov 30, 2001 1:59 pm

I agree.
Last replied... ditch the rating system.
Since it came, I think I have only voted once.

Regards
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ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Fri Nov 30, 2001 4:39 pm

People seem to rate topics based solely on whether they agree with the poster's opinions or not, NOT the quality of the topic itself.
 
ryu2
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Thu Dec 06, 2001 5:44 am

Hey Johan -- if we do end up paying for this site, will you actually start to reply to simple questions like the one I ask in this thread?! I have not attacked you, etc in any way, I'm just asking a question.

 Confused
 
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RE: Question For Johan: Rating Posts

Thu Dec 06, 2001 5:57 am

I agree with ditching the ratings
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