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Belgian Monarchy

Wed Oct 31, 2001 11:46 pm

For those of you who have heard , the beautifull Mathilde , wife of Crown Prince Philippe has given birth to a young girl , Elisabeth. All this talk is making go bezerk... What do you think?
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Thu Nov 01, 2001 1:02 am

Frankly the concept of royalty and divine right to be royal is quite primitive.
However, it is a reminder that there are royal families other than the germans who are now THE ROYAL FAMILY OF ENGLAND
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Thu Nov 01, 2001 3:38 am

Museum01, I totally agree. The royalty thing is really primitive. I live in Sweden so I know.
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:32 am

Yeah, those stupid kingdoms, they are all so primitive. None of them - The UK, Spain, Belgium, Holland, (Luxembourg), Denmark, Norway, Sweden, none of them have for centuries been able to stage a good and heathy international conflict, much less provoke a war.

That's so primitive. Why don't the rest of the world just overrun those primitive bastards from the stone age and teach them how to elect a proper president?  Acting devilish

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Congratulations Belgium! Some day: Queen Elizabeth I of Belgium.  Smile

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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:09 pm

Prebennorholm,


You might want to ask the people of the Congo and the friends and relatives of the 800,000+ Tutsis who were murdered by Hutus using automatic rifles purchased and sent by Belgium!! Those are just two major conflicts in the world provoked and caused by "royal families". The UK, Spain and Holland arent too far behind.

Belgians will continue to be the object of 80% of all jokes told in France, Germany and Holland  Smile

BTW how is Sabena doing?
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:18 pm

The idea of royalty IS old. Kings...queens...princes...It sounds like a childrens book. But, where is the dragon?
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:11 pm

Hey NUAir,

You really think we Belgians don't laugh at your sorry Dutch asses?
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 4:14 am

Scorpio, I know Belgians who even laugh at our jokes about Belgians. Sometimes Belgians are very difficult to follow.

BTW wasn't it prohibited in Belgium to have a Queen?

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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 5:04 am

...prohibited in Belgium to have a Queen?

Here in Denmark it used to be so. But then our late King Frederik IX produced three daughters on a string. And then he said: "Four women in my life, that's enough! Either you change the rules or I will be your last King".

So a proposal was put forward, and in 1953 we voted "yes" - at least some 80% of us. Therefore we have today the world's brightest and most beautiful Queen Margrethe II.

Just one question: Every coin has two sides, but only one value. What the hell do you strike on the other side when you don't have a portrait of a monarch to strike?

BTW, at least here in Denmark we would be very poor if we only had a president. Because it is written absolutely clearly in our constitution that "Only the King can issue money".

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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 7:40 am

Lj,

Until about 10 years ago, there could indeed not be a Queen as the head of the state in Belgium. However, that law was changed, and look, 10 years on we have what will someday be our first queen.

BTW, as for the jokes thing: of course they'll laugh at the jokes, they're mostly the same ones we tell about you... and you BET there's a LOT of jokes about the Dutch going around here.
e.g. -What does a Dutchman do when he finds a fly in his soup?
-He fishes it out, holds it over the plate, and yells: 'Spit it out, damnit, spit it out!!' Big grin
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 8:13 am

Here in America, we laugh at monarchies. I'm not saying American Government (however magnificent it may be) is the best system; I am only taking a jab at "monarchies". Paying some stupid family to be the mascot for your country is a waste of money. Queen Elizabeth is nothing more than someone who has made a career out of cutting ribbons. But then again, if I had an entire country throwing money at me, telling me to live a posh life and pretend to be king, I wouldn't complain either. Monarchies are very primitive and I think countries which still pretend to have them are ridiculous!
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 9:43 am

"Here in America, we laugh at monarchies. "

And here in Europe, we laugh at your presidents. Big grin
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:29 am

Our presidents are fair game for criticism.  Smile I don't blame anyone for laughing at our last buffoon of a president. The only reason we have so many scandals and embarrassments with out political system is because it is so transparent.
The checks and balances of our constitutional system give everybody incentive to dig up dirt on a rival. By contrast, in parliamentary régimes such as those you have in Europe, these checks and balances and individualistic rivalries are much less common, and therefore the incentive to expose a rival diminishes. As a result, scandals and corruption seem more prevalent here in the States than abroad when in fact we may have less; it is simply that here, more gets exposed - or invented.

At least we don't pay for a bunch of over payed ribbon cutters to sit in Washington and be the mascots for our country.  Smile Those we do pay actually perform meaningful tasks. That is, they have a certain level of power and authority. Can the same be said for ol' Charles and his mum? I didn't think so. Mr. Blair, on the other hand, runs the country.
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 9:11 pm

Scorpio,

Way to go man...  Wink/being sarcastic

Lj,
get off-line now, or your bills will be to high...  Big grin (just kidding)

Greetz
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 10:22 pm

QNH1013, fortunately I pay a flat fee per month to my cable company (to bad for the telphone company).

Tsully, Americans don't have Kings and Queens, but if they can see one they're in front so that they get the best views.

Scorpio, according to my Belgian friends the highlight of Belgian humor is Jacques Vermeire and Gert Hoste! We all know how "good' they are.

BTW Isn't it strange. We finally get a King and you guys finally get a Queen (allthough it will take some time).

Bye,
Laurens





 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:41 pm

Well, I agree with you that those two are not particularly my favorites  Yeah sure
Vermeire had his moments ... a LOOOOOOOONNNNNGGGG time ago!
And Geert Hoste's drooling over the royal family is getting kinda boring too.
But they in no way are the highlight of Belgian humor, more like the shame of Belgian humor Big grin
I'm more into the VRT humor of the Woestijnvis shows, now THAT is just great!
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Sat Nov 03, 2001 12:56 am

...Didn't the Dutch TV buy 'Man Bijt Hond'???

Thank you

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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Sat Nov 03, 2001 3:22 am

Yes and we were also foolish enough to buy "De Notenclub". However "Flikken" isn't that bad. But then again Belgians are stupid enough to purchase almost all programmes from Endemol (for which I apologise that we even offer these shows). Fortunately I can't receive VTM or VT4 so at least I'm not able to watch those Belgian Endemol programmes ( I still wonder how the Belgian henny Huisman or Ron Brandsteden looks like).

Heard also the other day that Heineken has exported the Night of the Proms to Antwerp (for which I apologise again). But the Belgians are ahead in "Expeditie Robinson"(one of my favorite programmes).

Scorpio, do you know if Woestijnvis is still on? I think I've seen the show a couple of times last year and indeed it was great (BTW shouldn't you say CANVAS humor?). However, you're probably also not a fan of " FC De Kampioenen" (they axed the show in The Netherlands after only a few episodes, thank god).

As for the Belgian Crown Prince Phillip. Does he has a job besides being Crown Prince. Our Crown Prince has given the task of "watermanagement" and is an airline pilot (works sometimes for KLM flying the F70s as his state grant is apparantly not high enough).

Bye
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Sat Nov 03, 2001 4:06 am

Lj,

Woestijnvis is a production company like Endemol (only better Big grin ). They produce(d) such shows as Man bijt Hond, De Laatste Show, De Mol, De XII Werken van Vanoudenhoven, Alles kan beter, Schalkse ruiters, Mannen op de rand van een zenuwinzinking, Alles komt terug. Most of these formats (all original formats BTW) were sold to various Dutch TV stations, so you probably will have seen the Dutch versions of it. One which is on now is 'Alles komt terug'. It's on on Sundays, VRT TV 1, 20.30. It's pretty good, but not as good as we've come to expect from Woestijnvis.

As for the night of the proms: We've had them for years, and as far as I know, Heineken has nothing to do with it. In Belgium it's being sponsored by Stella Artois, so I HIGHLY doubt Heineken will want to have anything to do with it Big grin

As far as I know, Prince Philip (to get back to the original topic) doesn't have another job. He does go on a lot of trade-missions all over the world, but that'll probably be the same for your Willem-Alexander. He did serve in the Air Force, I believe as a fighter pilot (not sure if it was Mirage or F-16)
 
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RE: Belgian Monarchy

Sat Nov 03, 2001 4:44 am

Yup, scorpio is right, our prince Philip flew on the F-16 (donno if he still can...)
Can we end by saying dutch TV as much as Belgian has it's plus and it's minus points... ? (I really do like the program on dutch tv where police is on the road with their Volvo and their camera, shame we don't have it in Belgium)

Greetz
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