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What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 12:59 am

Just out of curiosity, What do the Americans "really" think of the English?

I took my first trip to the states last month and couldnt belive how welcoming the people were, and from an englishmans point of view, I see the US being closer to us than any of our European neighbours......especially at a time like this....

p.s. I dont want to piss of anyone here, im just asking opinions!
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:07 am


To be honest, everyone that I've actually met from the UK have been wonderful people. In fact, there are some people from Scotland who live by us, and they are extremely nice, honest, etc. One of my dream vacactions is a UK/Irish golf tour.. That would be fun...

My thoughts in general. Well, we are allies. The UK is one of the best friends that the US ever had. And I'd venture to guess that the outcome of WWII would have been different were it not for the alliance of our two countries.
Jack @ AUS
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:08 am

Ok, I am British myself, but having spent a whole summer working in the US, these were my observations, in brief.


1) Some thought we loved the Queen, and had a cup of tea every day, at precisely 4pm.

2) Some thought we had great beer, but crap food (probably true).

3) Some kept going on about "We beat you in the war, ha-ha" or "Ah, I see the colonists have returned" (!!)

4) Some thought we were the best.

5) Some Americans immediately detect your British accent.

6) You're sure to meet an American whose friend's sister's boyfriend's niece is on an exchange at the University of Leeds (or wherever).

Overall, I think they like us. I'm not 100% sure though!

Regards
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:19 am

Oh my god, I didnt realise that people though we love the Queen! how much of a nightmare! Most English people I know think our monarchy is a joke! and yeah, im included in that!

 
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Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:41 am

Well, I wasn't saying I was against the monarchy, it's just an assumption that quite a few folk out there make.

I don't really have an opinion on the monarchy, although they certainly provide a lot of amusement & bemusement, as they lurch from one scandal to the next!

Ever heard the term "Prince Fool-ip"?!

I also feel sorry for the likes of Prince William, who has to put up with all the cr*p that comes with being a member of the "Royal" Family.

Anyway, sorry to veer off-course!!
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:47 am

There's a lack of American input here. Maybe they don't know we're here...?

Or still in bed?
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:50 am

Yeah, Prince Foolip does tend to entertain. He's a sort of "foot in mouth" person who doesnt realise he's saying the wrong thing.

Not veering off here (trying..) but what do we need them for anyway, apart from attracting our american chums from across the pond....and the japanese who come to use up endless rolls of film on Buck House...?

 
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Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:00 am

...Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Seeing as you mentioned UK and English, and seem to be under the impression that England IS the UK, I will ask what do US people think of the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish. Big grin
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Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:08 am

There's a lack of American input here. Maybe they don't know we're here...?

What am I? Chopped liver?

I will ask what do US people think of the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish.

I will answer that question three words: I love them - and that goes for the Irish folks too. My next door neighbor growing up was Welsh. I always used to wonder what it was like there. I haven't found out yet, but I will. Did I mention that I was a huge celtic music fan?

Jack @ AUS
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:19 am

Okay, from a kid who grew up in the heartland of America, here ya go:

-Americans love British accents. Most of us sound idiotic when we attempt them too.

-We are taught from an early age that England is essentially family. Yes, there was that tiff 200 and some odd years ago, and yes our history since has crafted a society so very much beyond simple English ancestory. But I think the general consensus in early History classes here is that there would be no United States without an England. Obviously that's true, but don't underestimate the number of sitcom and cheeseburger soaked Americans who are aware of at least that basic fact.

-London is the "A" list destination for most American young people when they think about their first trips overseas. One of the most cherished trip iteneraries here is England, Scotland and Ireland.

-British means "hip" in many ways here...music, comedy, motorcars (in the past few years the trendy drove SUVs but the "hip" drove RangeRovers.)

-I think we may love the Monarchy better than you! Maybe because we don't have to pay for it. But we see a lot of ourselves in Liz, Chuck & all.... dysfunctional yet trying to fit in, not always successfully. I was living in Cleveland the weekend Diana died. The line of citizens wishing to sign a book of condolences at the British consulate was out the door and down the hall. I know because I signed it.

-I can't stress this enough because I live here....the past two months have taken a toll on the American psyche, maybe even more than Vietnam did. And the sight of your Prime Minister in the House Chambers during our President's "pep talk" speech the week after 9/11 has cemented the feelings that our two nations will always be there for one another.

-One more thing...on my only wonderful visit to London, in my late teens, we asked a local about a his ideas on a restaurant serving fine food. We were sent to a French place.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:41 am

My favorite Brit-thing is how they name they freeways. 'The M-6' I don't know why, but its damn cool.

Of course, you can't beat my interstate....I-69  Big thumbs up
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Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:51 am


I love British!!! One of my best friends is from England!!! After the British support for the US, I must admit that my love is long-lasting!!!!
God Bless GB!!!!
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 3:26 am

Well Jetservice we have Motorways not Interstates, there being no states here! You also see the A-1 because it is an A road (kinda big I suppose!)

I hope that fascianating insite into British motorways/freeways helps!
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 3:36 am

Now if you guys would just drive on the normal side of the road  Wink/being sarcastic

 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 3:39 am

I agree with everything Heavymetal said. I too think that Americans are indirectly taught from childhood that Brits are our European equivalent. Americans are infatuated with the monarchy and most things British. I've been to Scotland and England and think the island is beautiful.

However, if I were forced to list some negative impressions (perhaps stereotypes), I would say:

- Bad food
- Some dialects unintelligible
- Bad teeth
- Lots of homophobia

I know I think of Brits as essentially our cousins. Thank god you gave us your law and your language!
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 3:44 am

I have only been to London and its immediate surroundings 3 times, but I had a great time on each occasion. Great people, great food (yes great food) wonderful history.
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 4:12 am

I love Brits!

I have friends in Newcastle, Manchester and London, and they're fantastic mates (see, I can use British slang too  Big grin). I visited London for 3 days last summer, had a blast (even though I was at it alone). I'm hoping on going over there for New Year's, there's a great party there that I want to attend.

And yes, we Americans all sound like fools when we try and imitate that lovely British accent (although my friend can do it quite well).

And, even though it isn't EXACTLY British, I want to drive/own an Opel Vectra or Astra... none of the cars here (save for the VW Jetta) really strike my fancy enough. Besides, I'd be way "hip" if I drove a car that was meant for European driving Big grin

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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:10 am

I love London, and I love the British people.

I do think British food (did someone say mutton?) is very bland and do much prefer going to a good Italian, Greek or French restaurant when I'm in town.

The British accent is definitely my favorite.

Most of us think your "Monarchy" is a silly, they nothing but mere figureheads. And yet, many of us Americans will still rush to Buckingham Palace to watch the changing of the guard.

I find the subtle differences between British and American culture amusing:

For let (for rent/lease).

Elastoplast (if you cut yourself you would put a plaster or elastoplast on it…or its full name, a sticking plaster. In America we just have band aids. I think elastoplast is the name of a brand, like band aid).

Bonnet and Boot (a car's hood and trunk, respectively).

Hurling (a cross between hockey and rugby...nothing to do with throwing up).

Elevenses (stopping work for a cuppa [cup of tea] at around eleven in the morning).

Fag (a cigarette. I think the funniest story I've heard is when a Brit came to the U.S. and asked his American friend, "can I bum a fag"?)

Cobber (just a mate, a friend. Or is that an Aussie word?)

Good on ya (just a friendly thing to say…in America we say, “what’s up”?)

I always laugh when I say something in "American" that doesn't translate to English and the poor Brit is left to decipher what I'm talking about.
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 8:10 am

I love English people, I've always found them quite friendly, amusing and funny.

I especially like the accent.  Big grin

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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 9:02 am

This thing about the accent. What does a BRITISH accent sound like? Because none of us know. We're all competely dog an' duck me ol luvs. There are 'undreds of accents in the UK and dozens in Scotland, dozens in England and dont even think about tha Shelties, Manx and Gaels. If you mean a BBC accent, well we understand but by eck, dinnae geez aw yon tripe aboot haen a Brutish accent

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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 9:09 am

American perspective of British accent:

Stuffy- The Queen

Snooty- Tony Blair

Standard- John Cleese

Working Class- Tracey Ullman

Scottish - Mel Gibson (Braveheart, of course. I know, pathetic)

 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 11:03 am

Yo yo yo,

Nice to see so many of you like us brits. Its interesting to see what you think, and think of what we do.

Really, alot of the examples are now rare, we act as a more international society, our idea of going out for a meal at a restaurant is eating italian, chinese, indian or mexican, we don't each much of our own food at restaurants (except sometimes at pubs, although they are becoming increasingly continental).

I find it odd that you like our accents, i like just about every accent but my own, so i guess it kinda works both ways. Oh yeah, i do hate Welsh accents >:-|

Regards

Dan
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 12:22 pm

Reading the above, one thing comes out loud and clear: we are separated by a common language!

Cheers,
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 1:11 pm

Brits are considered cool... the accent really does it for us.

And that Daljit Dhaliwal, on ITN... grrrowlll! She's a babe.
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 7:11 pm

I had read that Daljit had admirers and fansites in the states, you've just confirmed it Sccutler!

Don't take too much notice of the 'posh' or cockney' accents in some Hollywood films, I've never met anyone who talks like that! Big grin
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 9:19 pm

On a related note, does anyone know where I can get one of these?



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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 9:35 pm

When I was younger, I did had a "thing against the Brit's" partly because of their involment in India's past. Whatever your grandparents did with our grandparents, you aren't doing anything to me so I cannot feel that way towards you. We're a totally different generation than them!

Beside I love some of the music you guys import to the colonies; like Cranberries, U2, Sting?, Effiel 65, Dido, Travis, Radiohead and Led Zepplin.  Big thumbs up

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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 11:23 pm

I'm not American or anything close, but GO BRITAIN GO! As a citizen of a former colony, and a Commonwealth subject, I must say that if not for the British skeleton which exists in Singapore, we wouldn't be anywhere today. And of course, I simply love it that we've got Picadilly Circus, Queen Elizabeth 2 Lane, Oxford Street, High Street and all other proper English street names! And the Britishness in Singapore is so strong we're still naming buildings built a few years back Prince George's Hall and so on. Everyone spells British, and from day one in school we're taught, "In Singapore, we use BRITISH English so spell properly!"

And I'm sorry to say this but I'm looking forward to the Queen's Golden Jubilee next year. And like someone mentioned earlier, I probably like her because I don't have to pay for her upkeep. But anyway, Rule Brittania!!

 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:51 am

I have mixed things to be honest.

When I was in London this summer, I felt really insulted as when people heard my accent, they immediately started saying america jokes. This was in greenwhich. I later insulted them by having a "texan mexican" restaurant which the actual word is "tex-mex"  Smile.

All in all though at restaurants,stores and stuff like that, you all are pretty nice. We got some great recommendations for restaurants and stores, and places to see. We were a little more close minded because we had been to the uk before and didn't want to see the same stuff unless it was really worth seeing.
To sum it all up, I think pretty highly of you all.

I think our two countries are closer now due to what has happened, and I started getting teary-eyed when I saw on tv the star-spangled banner being played on buckingham palace's lawn.

For the scots- I have nothing but praise for them.

I would honestly like to go back to england in the next year to see what they say about us. I have heard from many americans in foreign countries, they said they used to hear insults, but now the people couldn't have been nicer.

America+Canada+Britain= One helluva great trio

rgds,
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 2:10 am

Yes Singapore is the most Briticised(if there is such a term) country in Asia. Of course we have a benign dictatorship disguised as a westminister democracy but besides that, everything is so English. Like our education. Everyone still sits for Cambridge O and A level exams. Which is why I don't understand why Singapore kids are so stressed out when we ultimately take the same exams the English do and I don't see English kids all that stressed out.
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 3:56 am

This post is a bit like This one..

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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 9:10 am

Man, You guys rule!!!!!!!!! I have some very good friends in Aldershot and we visit once or twice a year. Of course he calls me "yank" and I call him "lymie" but we have the best of times. He even came over for my wedding. Plus, The UK is abeautiful place!
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 9:17 am

Not to mention some of the greatest bands have come from the UK: Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Napalm Death, Carcass, Ozzy(solo), U2, Slade, Deep Purple, Sex Pistols, Def Leppard,............
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 10:31 am

I love the UK!

I went there over the summer and the people were cery cordial and welcoming. Personally, I think the UK is the US's strongest ally in terms of loyalty.

Everyone else I've talked shares my benevolence towards the UK.

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Tu154m

Sun Nov 18, 2001 10:37 am

The band U2 I believe is from Ireland, not the UK (N. Ireland, Wales, Scotland, England).

Just hope to clarify this before any angry Irishmen try to attack you over the possession of the band.
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 10:40 am

It is nice to see that people of both countries like so much each other.
It would be great to see chileans (Like me) talking about great friendship with spanish people. But that doesn't happen.
We do not have a great relationship with our nation's "Mother".
It is sad that Spain conquered our territories instead of British. Maybe if that would have happened, we would be a developed country, but we are heading towards that.It is just a thing about culture.

But, well...I do like Spain, and also like Britain and the USA
And if you say USA-Canada-UK are one helluva great trio, I could say:
Chile-Argentina-Uruguay-Spain--> a great quartet.


That's all
I don't know if you got my point
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 11:27 am

I think the Brits are awesome! The food is pretty far from what I'm used to (what's the deal with blood pie?), but the people and the culture are great. Elizabeth Hurley and Daljit Dhaliwal, how can we ever repay you? Not to mention Austin Powers showing women that we could give them worse pickup lines(what a cool dude!).

And I gotta agree with the post earlier about the playing of the star spangled banner at buckingham palace! I was feeling as much electricity from hearing that being played there (on tv, but still) as from watching our senators singing god bless america the day of the attacks. And most people, including myself, think of you all like brothers and sisters (except romantically of course). The UK really is the best friend that the United States has ever known.

GO UK!!

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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 12:04 pm

I love Great Britain. They have had a wonderful history. The British are very nice and kind. And they have two of the world's best airlines, Virgin Atlantic and British Airways. Even though the British had taken over and tried to change India during the British Raj, I simply disregard that fact because Great Britain is a lot different now. These days, Great Britain and its people are probably the U.S.'s greatest ally. So long live the British and Great Britain as a whole.

New Zealand-India-Canada-Australia-Great Britain-USA

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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 1:27 pm

Generally the UK is pretty popular here in Chicago. People wear at school shirts with your St George cross (am i right its st george?) and shirts from London and stuff like that.
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 3:08 pm

New Zealand-India-Canada-Australia-Great Britain-USA

The Commonwealth  Big thumbs up


BTW, Nightcruiser, the USA is a former British colony, but for some reason or another, they're not a member of the Commonwealth.

Anyway, God save the Queen and the Commonwealth!  Big thumbs up

 
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RE: Scotty

Sun Nov 18, 2001 5:53 pm

I think ah was the only yin who understood ye.
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 8:37 pm

Hi Carmy

I think only a few areas, now mainly in the Eastern Seaboard regin of the USA, came under the rule of the British crown, pre-1776.

Mainly areas from Massachusetts down to South Carolina/Goergia (?)

I don't study history though, so I stand to be corrected.

Regards
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 9:08 pm

GKirk

Nae wunner.

Did you ever hear about the Aberdonian in the shoe shop?

Fit fit fits fich fit eh??

 Laugh out loud

 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 9:14 pm

I don't exactly live in the US, but being American, I think Brits are awesome. You are some of the few people who stand behind us in almost everything. And because I don't live in the US, I get to hang out with a lot more of you guys! In fact, several of my teachers are british, and they are great people. I love the British sense of humor, too..  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 11:32 pm

LOL @ Scotty  Laugh out loud
Where was the sheep then??????  Laugh out loud
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Sun Nov 18, 2001 11:39 pm

Sorry, but most of us just not funny

(ok who wants to turn this post sarcastically on its head?)
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 4:54 pm

Lan_Fanatic:
"It is sad that Spain conquered our territories instead of British."
What's the matter with you??? There's no point in blaming history. Mexico-Spain-Argentina-Chile: that is a community of fairly big countries spanning through thousands of kilometers and working hard towards development. We ARE cousins man!
 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 6:48 pm

Woah!

I didnt expect this post to get so many replies, I go home for the weekend, come back and I get a response which I totally unexpected!!

You Americans are cool!

By the way, I agree about the food being poor. There is a big stereotype about Fish and Chips and Pie and Peas, and yeah they're pretty boring.

I would say that nowadays, most brits regularly eat Curries, Chinese, Pasta and Pizza, and anything else spicy!!

 
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 7:56 pm

VS744, I don't agree about the food. Ten years ago sure, but you only have to look at the amount of cookery programmes on the telly to see how that's changed. Remember when you could only ever get a sandwich in the pub? Things have changed dramatically recently.

I like this thread, it does my ego no end of good.
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RE: What Do You In The US Think Of Us In The UK?

Mon Nov 19, 2001 8:15 pm

I've always thought that London had pretty good Chinese cuisine. At exorbitant prices no doubt, but the best restaurants in London are comparable to those in HKG or Singapore. There're a few really AWFUL ones though, whose only customers, apparently, are the English who amuse themselves by having fortune cookies, chop suey, sweet and sour pork, and spring rolls. Big grin

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