milldoh
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Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:01 am

I'm watching the Islanders game (GO ISLES!) and during the intermission Chris Drury of the Avs was interviewed. The interviewer asked him what was going through his mind when he went for a tour of Ground Zero.

What are these players doing there other than distracting the workers? The workers are working Thanksgiving because some families of the victims were upset when the workers were given Veteras Day off. The last thing they need is a bunch of hockey players roaming around the rubble while they are trying to work. I can understand the local teams going to Ground Zero to help support the workers who are their fans. But the Colorado Avalanche? They have absolutely no business being there. There are millions of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut residents who were affected much more than these hockey players, but they are constantly shooed away if they get too close or take pictures of certain things.

The horrible day was over 2 months ago. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like they are using their celebrity to get a better view.

I say keep everyone who does not have to be there OUT!
 
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:06 am

Many hockey players knew Ace Bailey, who was a hockey scout and helped Wayne Gretzky out when he first came into the NHL. He was aboard one of the flights that crashed into the towers so in that way they have been affected.
 
milldoh
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 11:20 am

Plenty of people knew people who were killed, but does that give them a right to a guided tour of the wreckage? Sure the hockey players were affected, who wasn't?

I don't even WANT to go down there. I live 10 min from the WTC. I have not gone down there and don't plan to. The reality has set in and there's no way I want to see that. It's bad enough seeing the replays on tv. Most other people I know who know people who were killed feel the same way. Let the workers do their job! I don't care what sport you play.

The wreckage is, in essence, a burial site. Let the dead rest in peace rather than using your celebrity for a close-up.
 
gocaps16
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 12:43 pm

Yea, I still see still like 50 people looking at the damage of the Pentagon. Still a shocker.

Kevin/DCA
 
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 1:18 pm

Because they are still Americans, asshole. They were affected by this too. Get off your high horse and realize that some people aren't just going to forget this happened. If I went to NYC, I would want to see it myself. Does that make me a huge distraction? Just do the world a favor and SHUTUP!
 
milldoh
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 1:41 pm

Because they are still Americans, asshole. They were affected by this too.

Well, if you bothered to read my post you would have seen that I said they obviously were affected by this, along with the greater part of the world.

Get off your high horse and realize that some people aren't just going to forget this happened.

Is this the high horse you were referring to?



Who said anyone would forget? But why should they get a guided tour and distract the workers just because they are hockey players?

If I went to NYC, I would want to see it myself. Does that make me a huge distraction?

You are welcome to see the sight from a few blocks away. If you want to go, then fine. You can even look me up and I'll happily offer my attitude adjustment services during your trip.

Just do the world a favor and SHUTUP!

No thanks, I'll keep on keepin on...  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:13 pm

i think everyone has to deal with this in their own way and some of you may disagree with me but i think sports players go down for a morale booster to for the workers. i mean that is a grisly job and your in that all day long and how would you feel if tiger woods or michael jordan came around and spent time with you. i listen to mike and the mad dog on WFAN and they said the same thing pretty much too. as for the site itself yes it is in new york which is in some of your backyards
as well as mine to a certain extent living in ct. however we are all americans and someone who livs in colorado has as much of a right to see it as those of you in new york. i go to new york city often living so close and i recently saw ground zero (from a few blocks away) and my heart goes out to everyone involved and i see every new yorker in a different light now you are all brave and very caring people however as i said this involves all americans and i think athelets are only doing this to try and help bringing workers spirits up we have to give them he benefit of the doubt. God Bless the USA!!!!!
 
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:16 pm

I would rather them be guided... WHY? The athletes could trip and hurt themselves going where they werent supposed to, then what? You would have a big law suit, for millions more dollars... Just what these pros need, more pocket change.

 
jsf119
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:35 pm

"The athletes could trip and hurt themselves going where they werent supposed to, then what? You would have a big law suit, for millions more dollars" the most cynical thing i have read not to mention the craziest
 
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:41 pm

I think the main reason that athletes or anyone still visit the site is because they can. I certainly would go if given the chance just out of curiosity.
 
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Thu Nov 22, 2001 3:45 pm

The athletes could trip and hurt themselves going where they werent supposed to, then what? You would have a big law suit, for millions more dollars


the most cynical thing i have read not to mention the craziest

Hey kiddo, whats your beef with what I said?

 
milldoh
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 12:51 am

Jsf119: I see where you're coming from, but let's not compare any player on the Colorado Avs to Jordan or Woods. I think it's safe to say that those two are no longer just sports stars. They are more a part of American life. Every sports team that has been to NY has gone down to GZ, I think the "morale" argument is getting a little weak now. How many of the firefighters would actually recognize ANY of the Avs? I know I wouldn't and I watch hockey often. I would recognize the names, but couldn't tell who they are just by looking. It's just another visiting team that wants a closer look.

To those of you who think they should go because they are "Americans," I urge you to check out the Avs roster http://www.coloradoavalanche.com. I think there are about 5 Americans on the whole team. This makes them slightly less valuable than Americans and therefore less deserving.  Big grin

Phlflyer: You're right that they're going down there because they can, the problem is that they have no business being there. And talk about a morbid curiosity.
 
skyhawk
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 2:30 am

In a way I can agree with Milldoh, to get in the way of those who are still trying to find anybody is just plain wrong. He is completely right when he said that these sport teams have no place being there, save the Isanders or Rangers since they are our "homeboys". On the other hand I can appreciate wanting to see the place, I as a New Yorker want to be there, but I haven't. I know, of course, that the towers are gone, but at the same time, I can hardly believe it has happened. I imagine in time I too will travel the 3 hrs. to see what is gone. But not now, it is too soon, the hurt is too great. We do need to be greatful though that there are some very special people that have not given up hope and are still trying.
 
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RE: Why Are Sports Teams Still Touring Ground Zero?

Fri Nov 23, 2001 3:18 pm

I've been down there 8 times. i lost friends there and I know others who have lost more. As an ex volunteer fireman with FDNY I knew some of the guys who lost friends, brothers, fathers,etc. I've visited 12 funerals so far. I feel sorry for the members of the Emerald Society who had to visit more funerals. In one Saturday there were 21! I really feel for the bag pipers who play and then look at the family as they walk in and out of the church. It's heart wrenching to look at the faces. I hope these families can move on and pick up the pieces. It'll be a long road but I have faith that they can find a way out of anything. FDNY families are a tough bunch.
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