lehpron
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There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 6:35 am

Unless you happened to be so lucky (or overlooked), it's God.

God is truly the most objective being in existence (some would even argue this). God is totally unbiased, God cannot love or hate, God's decisions are by chance not fate, because God makes fate. Gos doesn't like or favor anyone, if so they that person (or groups of) should NEVER be dissatisfied.

Though I doubt God is smart. Think about it, the most uneducated citizens of every country are the one's who make quick decisions and go by it without caring one bit about any consequences. They're either on one side or the other, they don't even bother to understand they're own circumstances let alone others. On the other hand, some educated folks have the tendency to attempt to grasp knowledge on boths sides and cannot make a choice, some sit on the fence all day. If God we're smart, time wouldn't even start. Life wouldn't start cuz the consequences would need to be considered. God is normal, neither smart or dumb. The dude (or dudette) uses nature to remind us of God.

I'd like to see how Pres. Bush can prevent God daily unusalness, you know, $hit happens.  Smile
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:14 am

You obviously haven't read the Bible.

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:18 am

As if it's the book of enlightenment?
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:21 am

As if it might give you some information that shows that God does care, does make decisions, does reconsider at times, and does favor some people.

Read it and at least try to understand where we Christians come from.

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:29 am

God gave Humans the power to think by themselves, and therefore control their own actions, He doesn't control the Earth like a chessboard, he lets everything run its course. Well thats just how I see him....
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 7:48 am

Read it and at least try to understand where we Christians come from.

"we Christians"? Can you name me one thing a conservative Southern Baptist has in common with a Unitarian Universalist? Both could consider themselves 'Christian' but that's pretty much where it ends.

That's a real problem I'm having these days. A belief in and inspiration from the words and life of Jesus are first & foremost "ME...Christian", yet we live in a culture that seems to want to bypass that part and get right to the "WE" part....there's this colossal 'strength in numbers' fetish moving through American faith at the expense of reflection and scholarly debate.

When did a belief in Jesus become such a trite thing that it became a political movement, or a stack of bumper stickers, or a bestselling book series that has NOTHING to do with the life Christ led? It's almost like "Christian...and Damn Proud Of It!"

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:24 pm

You're gonna wind up at the arrival gate in hell if you don't straighten people list out Lehpron.
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:38 pm

I don't think Lehpron has the slightest clue what he is flapping his gums about...
 
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:44 pm

Zach, I was thinking the same thing. That was the biggest piece of gobbdly-gook I've read in ages.
 
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Thu Dec 20, 2001 1:48 pm

I agree with the above posts.
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:23 pm

You're gonna wind up at the arrival gate in hell if you don't straighten people list out Lehpron

Notar520AC, N400QX, Alpha 1, BH346:

List? What are you guys taking about? [I'm sorry, tend to see through your various faith-based complaints as they are usually do not address other faiths.] Please explain without having to quote from the bible as I am not "christian", in otherwords, since I don't have the book, how do I know you're not making it up?
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:42 pm

Notar520AC, N400QX, Alpha 1, BH346, and RednGold-

I don't have a problem with people saying what they believe as to what's right, and what's wrong. However, I do have a problem with people telling others what's right and what's wrong- especially in a topic like religion.
All of you that I mentioned- This is just sick  Yeah sure.

Also, in reference to RednGold's post, who exactly is "we"? This isn't a secular environment here. Several Religions(and sometimes agnostic) are represented here. We could at least see where other people come from, and learn about different religions rather than just attack them, or say "Mine's better than yours!".  Yeah sure

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:44 pm

I am sorry if I offended anyone. However, I am just getting my point across.

Notar520AC, N400QX, Alpha 1, BH346, and RednGold-
If you all feel like I threatened or offended you in anyway, I am deeply sorry. I was trying to get my point across with minimal harm.

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 3:21 pm

The truth about God is that God is not one single thing, but rather the entire whole of the universe. Every molecule, every atom, every living and dead thing, every grain of sand, every blade of gras, ever lke, every ocean, every ray of light...is God. God is the whole that we make up. God encompasses us all, and we encompass God. It is the living breathing universe that is God, and indeed it does breath, it does thing, but "it" is not one thing, but everything. That one is many, and it think as one, and as many, for the many make up the whole, and there is no end, it is a continuous energy of individuality and interconnection, that is what God is. To deny the existence of God is to deny the existence of self, for you are God, you ARE a piece of that whole that is god, and if god does not exist, then neither does anything else.

What leads people to deny the existence of god is a misperception of what God really is. These people are in search of one being, one father or mother, or perhaps several fathers or mothers, when in fact they should be looking only into the mirror to see God. They have to only look down at a green valley, or up at a high peak, to see god. God did not MAKE the peak, god IS the peak. God IS the valley. God IS the person in the mirror. Look no farther than inside yourself to see God, fopr there he is, there IT is, there YOU are.

We are all one, you must realise that. We are ALL ONE. Our combined thoughts, energies, and lives make up God. You must realise that.

God is nothing more than pure energy, the energy that is the heartbeat of all tht exists. You must realise that.

There is no wrong answer, I see fighting over what god is, and it's so simple, but you make it so complex. God is a simple thing. And this thing that some call "hell" is nothing more than a figment of your imagination, it really is. Consider this, if you are a part of god, then why would you burn for eternity? Would God immerse its finger in boeiling water for eternity? No, because god would not let a part of itself suffer in such a way, and as you are a part of god, no matter what you do, there is no place in a hypothetical "hell" for you. There is an afterlife for you, as there is for us all. Perhaps there are different levels on the Afterlife. OF this a not sure.

But I am sure of this. We are onyl shadows of reality. What you see is not real, REAL is only a mindstate. The only realy is the one WHOLE, of which you are a part, and that is all that matters.



That is all I have to say.
 
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:07 pm

Aloha 737-200, you're a saint, don't ever change, dude.

I, for one, do not deny the existence of a God just the idea that God loves us, which is B.S. If that was the fact , God should never have let us die, let alone our ancestors. God knows that all things must die, God made it that way; but by letting us live to that point of death, God neglicts us. [Just like your step-father Aloha, he can't love you if he treats you like $hit, I'm sure he doesn't hate you either, as God doesn't hate anyone.]

God does not prefer any being over anyone else, that's why we all die in the end. To make such decisions like randomly ending a life, does not come from someone/thing smart or dumb. God and the Devil are one in the same, we as humans are uncomfortable with the idea of a holy dictator, so we have someone to scapegoat out woes on when we are still damning God anyway.

I believe in reincarnation, I figure that's how GOD rates us; if we try to stay on God's good side maybe God'll postpone the annual BS of life, hence the "good year". Big grin
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:17 pm

As if it's the book of enlightenment?

Well, if had the slightest idea what the Bible was about, you would not have posted this thread...oh and you can learn a lot by reading the Bible!
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:36 pm

Dude, I'm a hindu, what use would I have a bible, a paper weight? Besides this is my belief, you cannot act like I'm not allowed to state this, as if I'm the only non-bible-folk you've ever known. Learn some tolerance man.

Maybe you should try glancing through the Bagavad-Gita and tell me what you get outta it. If you refuse then we're actually on the same side.
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:40 pm

Dude I am tolerant. If you want to know who God is, I suggest you read the holy Bible that was written about Him. That's all I'm saying. Just because you're Hindu that doesn't mean you can't read a Bible. God loves everyone including Hindus!
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:50 pm

My bad, it's all good. My particular response was actually quite distant from my own religion. I just don't think God is what we think, like God is some kind of traitor to us all. If God truly loves us all, why did 091101 happen, 'know what I'm sayin'?

Also, please excuse the first reply back on top: As if it's the book of enlightenment?, I was in a mood.

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sat Dec 22, 2001 4:55 pm

Hey,

It's ok man, I live in Dubai and I have some Hindu friends and they're very peaceful people. To answer your question about 9-11, God didn't let it happen. God has given each one of us a mind and a free will. Unfortunately God has given OBL the same rights and that's what happens when evil takes over a man. Hope this kinda answers your question.
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sun Dec 23, 2001 3:00 am

Aloha737-200-
You described my view very well, great job  Smile

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Sun Dec 23, 2001 4:54 am

Some people here really haven't a clue of what religion is.

No matter. I feel God shows himself to different people in different ways. The line however is drawn when some people don't accept this (the different ways part), i.e. fundementalists, be they christian, muslim, or whatever.

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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Mon Dec 24, 2001 1:18 am

Lehpron-
You dont even have the bible in your house?
Than how in the world can you make a huge statement about how God doesnt care, God isnt smart, ect... if you dont even have the bible much less read it, to find out what it really DOES say?
 
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RE: There Is One "Terrorist" That Can Never Be Stopped

Mon Dec 24, 2001 1:37 am

Here we go again with the religious crap....
You know what I believe? I think that the Bible is a work of fiction, I believe that If God (if there is a God) gave a flying f*ck about his followers, then he would never have let 9/11 happen.
You can rant and rave all you want, but I will never believe in any organized system of belief, simply because it makes no sense whatsoever. I respect all those who beleive in God, or any Religion, as Religion can bring hope and happiness to many.
But I will never believe in something that cannot prove itself.
Good post Lehpron, and Aloha...  Smile

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