ILS
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Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:02 am

Hello and good day to you Johan. I would like to offer some constructive criticism so this site can make more people happy. You can discard this if you want, but these are the ideas of many members.

-Get rid of the post rating feature. Belive it or not, many people are too lazy to rate posts.
-For everyone that is deleted, you should make a log with the "law" that they broke so other members can learn from their mistakes.
-Make a separate Spotter's Forum. There was a guy that made a topic to link his new DEN Spotters Club and you deleted it for some reason. He was really upset. Maybe we could make a Spotters Forum, or even something like http://www.airliners.net/denspotters so there could be personal pages attached to airliners.net promoting a spotting club.
-Last and most importantly, the thing about people who are "assets" to this forum. Many people who you consider "assets" just travel a lot and know that they flew on "Airbus Big Things" and that made them qualify to join the ranks of this community. I think that the rules for acceptance need to be a little tighter.

Please review these suggestions.

Warmest Regards And A Merry Christmas,

ILS
 
TWFirst
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:06 am

All this from a kid who joined the site a little over a month ago...

I agree... the rules for "acceptance" DO need to be a little tighter.
An unexamined life isn't worth living.
 
TWFirst
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:15 am

I stand corrected... after looking further at his profile, it's obvious he has been around longer than 42 days (what it currently shows at the time of this post)...

but that doesn't change my sentiments...
An unexamined life isn't worth living.
 
ILS
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:27 am

I have been on other user names for over 2 years on this site.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:33 am

42 days nothing, was I typing in Arabian Sanskrit when I said dude has been here under other names before?
 
ILS
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 1:35 am

I don't get the little Arabian phrase above, but I was aware that constructive criticism is welcome on airliners.net.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 3:49 am

ILS is breaking a rule definitely...you're only allowed 1 username, never mind 3!

You say people don't rate posts - are you blind?

Look for the yellow stars, there are plenty of posts with them next to them, that means they have been rated.

Josh
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 6:02 am

I'm very fine with the present A.net1
I've only one suggestion.
How about a forum that deal only with threads regarding private pilot and business aviation.
That would be the general aviation forum.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:17 am

Oh yea Jaspike: I had a post that had over 300 views, and there was no star rating at all. ILS is right about people being to lazy.
 
ILS
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 8:28 am

Out of all the topics on the page, only 12 are rated.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:27 am

-Get rid of the post rating feature. Belive it or not, many people are too lazy to rate posts.

I could live with that, mainly on the grounds that many posts are rated because of things other than their content.

-For everyone that is deleted, you should make a log with the "law" that they broke so other members can learn from their mistakes.

Why certain users are deleted is really none of my business. Why would I want to know to user XYZ was deleted because he called user ABC a "F---ing Whore" or something to that effect. A lot of people get away with a lot of stuff and I think the reason some users get deleted is too complex to be worth publishing. How about this ILS, the users were deleted for violating the rules.

-Make a separate Spotter's Forum. There was a guy that made a topic to link his new DEN Spotters Club and you deleted it for some reason. He was really upset. Maybe we could make a Spotters Forum, or even something like http://www.airliners.net/denspotters so there could be personal pages attached to airliners.net promoting a spotting club.

Johan doesn't like it when people post links that direct people away from this site (well that's my guess). I don't know if this means people should use TARGET="_BLANK" in their html code or what. Example:
http://www.yahoo.com/ is linked using the instructions given by this site in the forum help section.
This link, Go to Yahoo!, is made with HTML code but clicking it will change this browser window to Yahoo.com.
This link, Go to Yahoo! too, will open up a new browser window and make it go to Yahoo.com, leaving the Airliners.net browser window intact.

About giving out web space, that's a dumb idea since there are places like Yahoo! Cubs, etc. that serve that purpose.


-Last and most importantly, the thing about people who are "assets" to this forum. Many people who you consider "assets" just travel a lot and know that they flew on "Airbus Big Things" and that made them qualify to join the ranks of this community. I think that the rules for acceptance need to be a little tighter.

BS. People join this site because they have an interest in aviation. I don't personally agree with the decision to cap the membership anyway. I find it offensive almost that you think that you deserve to be a member of this board more than anyone else. I think that if someone wants to join they should be allowed to because if they have an interest in aviation and want to talk about it here, they are an asset.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 9:45 am

Very good post Mls and I respect your opinions. I agree that if they like aviation then they joined this forum, but I still think that they should do a little light reading before they come in here on aviation. Maybe like a simple History of Boeing book or something just so some of these people get a clue. I heard one new guy say the other day (BTW he was a so called asset) that he got interested in aviation last week because he liked the pretty animals on the Frontier tails. Well that it good for him, he probably told Johan that and he considered himself qualified to be talking the talk with the greatest aviation experts from around the world. It doesn't work that way and the asset system needs to be dealt with.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 10:11 am

-Get rid of the post rating feature. Belive it or not, many people are too lazy to rate posts.

Personally, I don't care weather the rating system is there or not. The only reason that I don't rate posts is not because I'm lazy, but just because I don't pay much attention to them. If I see an interesting thread, I'll read it and judge for myself how good it is.


-For everyone that is deleted, you should make a log with the "law" that they broke so other members can learn from their mistakes.

I agree with Mls515 on this one.

-Make a separate Spotter's Forum. There was a guy that made a topic to link his new DEN Spotters Club and you deleted it for some reason. He was really upset. Maybe we could make a Spotters Forum, or even something like http://www.airliners.net/denspotters so there could be personal pages attached to airliners.net promoting a spotting club.

That is against the rules if I'm not mistaken, and that is why it was deleted.

Maybe like a simple History of Boeing book or something just so some of these people get a clue.

People join this site to learn and lend the expertise or experiences that they have. Why read a "History of Boeing book" when you can ask experts specific questions right here in the forums?


 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 10:20 am

I did not mean to literally read a book, I meant just brush up on some fleet facts or something and not come in asking what type of plane you are going to be flying on when you fly on Southwest. That seriously happened.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 3:36 pm

A comment:

I do not think that acceptance rules need to be tighter. Remember, the ban on new users is only temporary so that Johan and others can weed out problems on this site as far as member go.

This is by far the best place to get information on aviation, and chat with people from around the world who share a common interest. For some wide-eyes, little 13-year old kid who wants nothing more than to fly, a.net is the best place to come, now what if we shut out that same little kid. There's tons of information out there, but can you really say that anything comes close to airliners.net? No, you can't, and this site should be freely accessable to all who want to come and discuss aviation.

I have always felt that we are a bit too hard on newbies here. It's an easy mistake to see another "What's your favorite plane," or "airbus vs. Boeing" post and forget to check if the person who posted it might be a newbie, and hasn't quite got the hang of the site and search features yet. Alot of us just jump the gun and bash the poor person, who might not have even known that that topic was forbidden/discussed to death.

I'm for relaxing the rules on newbies, of course, newbie troublemakers, who visibly TRY and start fights shoudl be removed immediately, yes. But the spread of information from these forums and this site should not be restricted to be out of reach of some yo or even old person with a dream, a goal, or an interest. A.net was created for a reason, let's not forget that.

That is all I have to say.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 3:38 pm

Good point Aloha. Maybe Johan should make like a FAQ for newbies listing the pros and cons of A and B so they don't post that.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sat Dec 22, 2001 6:29 pm

I agree with most of the points that people stated here, but sometimes I get a feeling that the admin is being partial: some people get punished for a light 'offence', others keep posting even when they flame in a harsh way etc. And sometimes I don't agree with posts getting deleted, everyone has a right to express themselves and I should hope we're all mature enough to put up with posts which don't share the opinions of most and also because there are references in the thread to that particular post which, when it is deleted, are senseless. But I think that the site is a very good piece of work. I've met many ppl here who share my interests so I'm happy about that, I also have a lot of fun here.
-turbolet
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sun Dec 23, 2001 3:30 am

They should also delete users who have been inactive for a big amount of time.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sun Dec 23, 2001 4:51 am

ILS: I know that you didn't literally mean "read a book," my point was similar to that of Aloha's. I don't think that people should be flamed just because they don't know that JetBlue flies an all A320 fleet. Especially the new people that aren't "experts" on airlines, and maybe those that aren't completely used to the way things work in the forums.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sun Dec 23, 2001 7:33 am

Gawd whats wrong with u "airliners.net freaks" - cant you take a little critisism? This site isnt 100% super duper and will never be, no site is.

I think the news quiz channel in chat is the biggest joke on planet earth, and is a waste of time, everytime i join there isnt a question in sight and i have even seen a bit of swearing in there, and no action takem ,people even laugh at the ones who want the quix like HELLO... isnt that the whole idea??
 
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Johan Needs To Interact More With Members

Sun Dec 23, 2001 9:15 am

Johan, here is some constructive criticism.

I know you are quite busy with programming, and screening photos, but c'mon man, for most of us, you are somewhat of a mystery, rarely replying to posts, keeping us up to date on what's going on unless it's something big like not accepting new members, or even posting a photo of yourself!

Like, what airlines do you fly, etc. What kind of music do you like. I'm not saying reveal your personal details, but just something that allows us to view you as a fellow aviation lover, rather than a faceless Administrator.

Even someone like the US President will take time to visit his people and interact with them sometimes.

So, c'mon, show a bit of yourself, and become more of a human, not just an "administrator" I know you are busy, but a few posts a day can't hurt.
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Sun Dec 23, 2001 2:28 pm

Did he ever post his photo?
 
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RE: Constructive Criticism For Airliners.net

Mon Dec 24, 2001 11:50 am

Not that I know of.

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