SInGAPORE_AIR
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Time Person Of The Year

Sun Dec 23, 2001 10:34 pm

POY: Rudy Giuliani

Sixteen hours had passed since the Twin Towers crumbled and fell, and people kept telling Rudy Giuliani to get some rest. The indomitable mayor of New York had spent the day and night holding his city together. He raced to the scene as the second plane hit, watched human beings drop from the sky, and nearly got trapped inside his makeshift command center when the south tower imploded. Then he led a battered platoon of city officials, reporters and civilians north through the blizzard of ash and smoke, and a detective jimmied open the door to an old firehouse so the mayor could revive his government there.
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KROC
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Sun Dec 23, 2001 10:37 pm

Personally Singapore_Air, I think it should be you, but I'm not sure you have the following as say a Guliani or Bush, or Blare ect.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Sun Dec 23, 2001 11:54 pm

POY: Osama bin Laden

The Time Person of the Year title is given to the person who has made the most impact on international events during that year.

90% of the world's population would not have even heard of Rudy Guliani if it wasn't for Osama bin Laden and his loonie squad.

There is a lot of uproar in America at the moment that this "title" should go to the NYFD. Yes, what they have done is honourable, but it still doesn't qualify for affecting international events in 2001; in fact it has been negligible.

Remember, this isn't a popularity contest like the Academy Awards, or MTV Music Awards, but it is a different type of "award". Previous recipients include Hitler and Stalin. What they did was not "right", but they still had the greatest impact on the world in the years in which they were given the title.

To give this "title" to anyone but bin Laden is Time caving into public opinion. But anyway, no-one takes Time as a serious publication anyway. Try reading The Economist, or other similar publications for more intellectual reading.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Sun Dec 23, 2001 11:57 pm

It has to be Bin Laden.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 12:01 am

I loved the comment on why the didn't pick Uncle Binnie......Time said he "is too small a man to get the credit for all that has happened in America in the autumn of 2001"


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And it was announce today that his mummie has declared the videotape a fake.....

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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 12:27 am

Unfortunately, Time made a PC choice because of pressure from sponsors and subscribers who threatened to cancel if they made the logical choice, which is Osama bin Laden.

I agree with Aviatsiya on this one. No one outside of the U.S. would have heard much from Rudy if OBL doesn't instigate this conflict. Rudy has been a rock in the crisis, no doubt, but the crisis shaped The Man, in this case, not the other way around.

Osama bin Laden has affected the world more than any single man has in ages, and should have been POY. Unfortunately, this issue, like so many other things, has been turned into a popularity contest.

 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 1:17 am

KROC: At least I know I have one follower, you my dear. Merry Christmas

Personally, I think Giuliani deserved it, however it would be nice to see what would have happenned if that b-word Osama / Usama was named POY.
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KROC
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 1:24 am

S_A. While I agree that Rudy should win it, because he went well above and beyond what could have been expected in handling the Sept. 11 tragedy. But dude, I'm not your dear. You might be my.....naw too easy.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 3:30 am

I think Osama bin Laden should get the title, but we all know that it will never happen.

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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 4:20 am

The problem is that too many think this is an honor or award. That is what would cause the uproar. BTW, didn't the Ayatollah get the 'honor'?

I think Time should retitle the 'award' to be geared toward's its intended criteria. Perhaps, Most Influencial, Highest Impact, etc. Then maybe people could stomach the nominees bad or good.
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 4:23 am

I agree with everyone else who says OBL should have gotten it. I think he is the scum of the earth but I saw a quote from a rep of TIME magazine regarding the POY and it said that its the person that makes the most impact whether it be POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE. Hitler, Stalin and Khomeini have all been the POY in the past so I see no reason for OBL not to be.

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P.S. Even though I think OBL should have gotten it, the fact that they picked Giuliani doesn't disappoint me at all. Long live America  Smile
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 4:40 am

Well, when Hitler and Stalin got it, it used to be MAN of the Year and not POY..so, yes, things change. - in the direction of political correctness.

People outside the US who have occasion to visit New York actually do know who Rudy Guiliani is. The mayor of NEW YORK, USA. [who actually had the good sense to expel Yasser Arafat out of Lincoln Center several years ago, who gave the Saudi Prince's check back after the Prince had issued a statement of moral equivalency between Israel and the WTC incident etc.]

What most people of the world do not know is what piece of crap cave Bin Laden shits in.

According to many Middle Easterners, Bin Laden is perhaps "innocent", (not having *seen* the *proof*) so maybe TIME is soooo PC it doesn't want to offend them.

The whole idea of POY is stupid anyway.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 5:41 am

I don't think there is any doubt whatsoever that Mr Bin Laden has been the newsmaker of the year.

Because of this he should - automatically - get the title of man of the year.

However, to give him that title would be too honourable. After what he orchestrated, he is not a man in my opinion.

Rat of the year is more like it.

I would have also chosen Rudy Guilliani as man of the year.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 5:50 am

And there goes another repuatble magazine.
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 6:15 am

First of all, I agree that Bin Laden has had the greatest influence this year.

That said, I think it would be a travesty if he gets "Person of the Year". Why? Because that is exactly the kind of thing that he wants. Imagine his face on the cover of Time all over New York City. Do we really need this in your face kind of message on the streets? Bin Laden wants attention, and plastering his face on the cover of the magazine will promote his goals. Therefore, I think that he should be passed up this time--not because he is not qualified for the title, but because it would not be the right thing to do.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 7:08 am

For once I find myself agreeing with Alpha 1 and others. If the Person of the Year is indeed the one that had the greatest impact all year, positive or negative, then by their own definition, Osama's face should grace the cover. I'm sick and tired of America's media being preoccupied with appearing political correct, at times even to the detriment of truth and integrity. If you're not able to stomach the truth in all its unbiased glory, then you have no business reporting to begin with.

While Rudy Giuliani's reponse to September 11 was indeed admirable and courageous, he by no means initiated this tradegy upon himself. A far greater, indeed, insane genius has single handedly managed to engineer the demise of our country's economy and numerous industries without number, not to mention instill fear and terror in the hearts of hundreds of millions, if not billions, the world over. Excuse my logic, but pound for pound, Osama has managed to be far more influential, albeit in a hideously destructive manner, than Rudi could have ever dreamt of being.
 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 7:48 am

CicadaJet, Time didn't do this to appease Arabs (POY would mean he's giulty), they did it so Americans and sponsers wouldn't be outraged.
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 8:33 am

It doesn't really matter. This is just a publicity stunt to sell more Time magazines.

As for RJ, while I admire his role....I'm getting mighty tired of his high profile right now and his endless repetitive news conferences. This will make it worse.

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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 10:50 am



yes, i know. I was joking. TIME could not make bin Laden Person of the Year. It would be unacceptable for all the reasons Nonrevman listed. I doubt Hitler would have been man of year either if he had managed to bomb New York City.

 
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RE: Time Person Of The Year

Mon Dec 24, 2001 3:27 pm

I think it should be a double honor(?). I think it should go to Osama and the NYFD(PD). Before 9/11, most people were happy and content with just their own little lives, never helping anybody becuase it wasn't their business, never criticising what they felt was wrong, because that wouldn't be tolerant. Just like WWI and WWII it took a great evil and a great example of courage to wake people up to the twin realities, that Real Good and Real Evil do exist in the world. Once people realized this, they are now confronted with real dilemmas and they must no longer be content in their individual lives (which they now must admit could possibly be a little shorter than previously beleived) but must become members of society. To deny real good and evil, must now mean denying the reality of the deaths of the twin towers and denying the real courage exemplified by the public "servants" of NYC.

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