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Australia Weapons Program

Sun Jan 27, 2002 1:02 am

Hello to all, Australia is a country isolated from the rest of the world. They seem that they never get engaged in any kind of warfare.

My question is does Australia have any weapons of mass destruction? I'm not familiar with Australia's Military and would like to get information about it.

Thanks,
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Sun Jan 27, 2002 1:27 am

No, we don't have any "weapons of mass destruction". Main reason being because we don't have an aggressive foreign policy which makes these weapons an almost necessity. In fact, the biggest threat to our "national security" is Indonesia, and our 2 countries do military exercises together, and we also train some of their troops.

The only place you will see any nuclear in Aussie is at the Lucas Heights nuclear reactor in Sydney. This is a research facility; i.e. not military or commercial use.

If you are really interested in learning about our military history the best sites are:

http://www.awm.gov.au - Australian War Memorial
http://www.anzacs.org - A site dealing with the "heart" of Australian military
http://www.australianflyingcorps.org/ - Australian Flying Corps website (WWI)
http://www.anzacsite.gov.au/ - Government site dealing with the Anzacs.

Other sites are easily found by using google.com
 
DeanBNE
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Sun Jan 27, 2002 2:01 am

"Australia is a country isolated from the rest of the world"

Indeed we are. Can't wait till we get colour television *sigh*
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Sun Jan 27, 2002 2:08 am

Indeed we are. Can't wait till we get colour television *sigh*

What drugs are you on Dean? We have to get electricity before we can get TV!  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Sun Jan 27, 2002 2:20 am

ROFL  Big grin
 
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Aviatsiya

Sun Jan 27, 2002 7:55 am

Heya Aviatsiya, Thank You for giving me this information. I'm a big fan of your country and I am trying to learn about it and hopefully take a trip "Down Under" within the next 2 years.  Smile

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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Sun Jan 27, 2002 11:40 am

Skyteam,

Australia is a signatary to all UN documents called for global disarmament. We don't need or want WoMD and have constantly denied access to other countries who see Australia as a strategic place to put their weapons!

At the end of the next war when the nukes are finished ... we should remain relatively untouched (with the exception perhaps for the centre of Aus and SydsKnee).



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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Sun Jan 27, 2002 11:45 am

australia is lucky that it somewhat on the sidelines..being british means our dear leader pokes his nose in everyone elses business!
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:18 am

One example of an Aussie mass destruction weapon:Your Cricket team!:D
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 8:03 am

australia is lucky that it somewhat on the sidelines..being british means our dear leader pokes his nose in everyone elses business!

Eh? We are also a member of the Commonwealth so i'm not sure I understand our point  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

One example of an Aussie mass destruction weapon:Your Cricket team!:D

Woah! not in this one day series it's not ...



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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 1:35 pm

I think Austrailia (sic) has the perfect weapon to keep a foreign aggressors away-they're Goodbye and ADG. One inkling that those two are around, and no other country will want anything to do with the place. It ceases to have any value.

And this from an a.net member who has himself on his own "Respected by" list. What a sorry bit of humanity!

But although the abovementioned no doubt irk some people our real weapon of mass destruction is that Steve Whatsis ,"The Crocodile Man".

hehehe, man is he insidious!!
I'm doing my best to warn everyone but even the 7yo grandson of a very good friend of ours in Florida has been completely brainwashed by him. So all I can do is apologise, we didn't know what we were creating when we unleashed him on a poor unsuspecting world!

And as for:
They seem that they never get engaged in any kind of warfare.
Well, other than the Boer War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Malaya, Vietnam, Bouganville, (we passed on the Falklands), the Gulf, (gave the Balkans a miss too), East Timor and Afghanistan (both sides), yeah we don't get involved in military actions match.

Try:
http://www.defence.gov.au/index.html
and
http://www.defence.gov.au/raaf/
if you want some info.

PGF



 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 2:06 pm

Think Gallipoli effectively ended any kind of progressive foreign policy from the Australians. Just keep appeasing the Indons and Chinese and y'all will be fine....
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 2:23 pm

Sorry Hoffa but Australians are secure enough to not feel the need to impose undue will upon other nations and aren't we neurotic to the point where we feel the need to have enough warheads to destroy the earth many times over.

To be honest I fear that it will be US interference that begins the last world war, not the Chinese.
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 2:38 pm

Sorry Hoffa but Australians are secure enough to not feel the need to impose undue will upon other nations and aren't we neurotic to the point where we feel the need to have enough warheads to destroy the earth many times over.

To be honest I fear that it will be US interference that begins the last world war, not the Chinese.


Sorry, DeanBNE, but Austrialia position in the world and the U.S.'s position in the world has nothing to do with how "secure" each feels. It has to do, quite frankly with power. The U.S. has economic, political and military power that Australia doesn't. That's not a put-down of Australia, but it's just a fact.

The U.S. is the strongest economic, political and military power on the earth. It has been since the end of the Second World War. And the U.S. didn't "impose" such power on the world. We don't force other nations to become free, democratic nations. That kind of imposition is done by nations like China and the former Soviet Union.

And guess what? World War II started 2 years before the U.S. entered into the conflict, Dean, so the U.S. didn't start that conflict. And the Chinese didn't start it either. It was started for 2 reasons: 1. The intolerable conditions that the Allies put on Germany after the end of WWI and the Versailles Treaty, and 2. The meglomania of Hitler, Mussolini and the leaders of Japan, in their quest for world empires. That's where the war started, not on our shores, my friend.

And if you're quoting Annie Lennox to try to deamonize the U.S., boy, are you stretching things a bit. Not exactly a world political giant, is she?
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 6:35 pm

PerthGloryfan:Well, other than the Boer War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Malaya, Vietnam, Bouganville, (we passed on the Falklands), the Gulf, (gave the Balkans a miss too), East Timor and Afghanistan (both sides), yeah we don't get involved in military actions match.

In most of these apart from Bouganville and East Timor,Australia played a very minor role.In the Gulf Australia sent a total of 6 ships and some 1800 troops who did not see action during Desert Storm itself.Boer war and the 2 world wars saw Australian contributions but once again there were minor.As for Afghanistan everyone knows that so far only the British have launced attacks against the Taliban,eg Tomahawks.But of countries special forces may already be on the ground.
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:38 pm

In most of these apart from Bouganville and East Timor,Australia played a very minor role

Hmm, that's interesting I wonder why there's thousands of names listed on the Australian War Memorial in Canberra?? And there's a coupla thousand ex WWII POWs who might not agree with you as well.
Even MacArthur though Australia was a pretty important aircraft carrier through to 1945.

Any country who lost more than one life in a war played more than a minor role. Something perhaps you should reflect on.

Any way glad you took the bait, just remember to lock your doors and windows tonight, and do NOT turn on your TV or the Crocodile Man might get you!!!

PGF

 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 7:43 pm

According to 'JANE's' Military Publications Australia was secretly involved in a project in the early 1990's to develop a nuclear boomerang with intercontinental range. Tests carried out in 1995 in the Northern Territory have alledgedly confirmed this weapon to be Australia's best form of nuclear deterrent.

A 1970's project to develop an atomic Woomera is also alleged to have been undertaken.....


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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:04 pm

Alpha1,

Your vulgar arrogance and ignorance is now legendary.

*vomit*

mb

A new star is born...

(We know that Australia is the greatest nation on earth - and we don't need media or anything else to constantly remind us. WE LIVE IT!)
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:44 pm

Right on Mx5
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:09 pm

PerthGloryfan:Yeah sure you took part,but did you form a large part of the troops and military hardware?Try saying to the Americans or South Vietnamese that you played a major part in Vietnam.Try telling them again that you played a major role in korea.Try telling the Americans,British,Saudis,Egyptians and French that you played a major part in Desert storm.Once again you sent men in and you fought but did you play a major and vital role which my post asked about?
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:17 pm

Alpha1,

Your vulgar arrogance and ignorance is now legendary.


ROTFL. First of all, why don't you tell us what you're talking about MX5_boy? What are you referring to?

Secondly, I am rarely, if ever "vulgar" on here, with the exception of an occasional "schidt" that I might say every now and then.

As for arrogance and ignorance, well, I happen to see the arrogance and ignorance in people like ADG and Goodbye and the like. I guess that's in the eyes of the beholder.

But thanks for the early-morning chuckle!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Mon Jan 28, 2002 10:28 pm

PerthGloryFan:Somethings I forgot.At its height the Australian contingent in Vietnam numbered around 8,600,for comparision Thailands was 20,000,South Korea was 48,000 and the Phillipines was 12,000.The US contingent was over 500,000.

As for the Crocodile man or crocodile dundee-I am very sure that the British bulldog,Britsh,English and Scottish Lions and the Welsh dragon will protect me! Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Tue Jan 29, 2002 1:23 am

First off Alpha, let me say that my postings are not an attack on Americans but rather aspects of the American political system.

And the U.S. didn't "impose" such power on the world
No? Hmmm ... the dropping of two A-bombs on Japan at a time when it was known the second world war was ending anyway comes to mind for some reason.

We don't force other nations to become free, democratic nations
This is true but the US actively encourages that kind of transition creating new, strained tensions between super-powers.
Alpha please answer me this: why is it necessary for the US to mave SO MANY nuclear warheads AND also wanting to implement the Star(t) Wars program? Is it paranoia ... what? It doesn't make sense.

Hoffa: Just keep appeasing the Indons and Chinese and y'all will be fine....
Look up "diplomacy" some time. The US needs support from other western nations at the moment and no other nation is supporting the US more than Australia...mate!

 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Tue Jan 29, 2002 1:57 am

"And the U.S. didn't "impose" such power on the world."

No? Hmmm ... the dropping of two A-bombs on Japan at a time when it was known the second world war was ending anyway comes to mind for some reason.

No, hmm. The war was not ending. If you knew your history at all, you'd know that the U.S. and the Allies-Australia included-was ready to launch an invasion of Japan on Nov 1, 1945, an invasion that would have taken AT LEAST a year, if not longer, and cost the lives of millions-Japanese, Americans and Australians, included-far more than who died in the atomic bombings. You want to lay blame for Hiroshima and Nagisaki, blame the Japanese government, who refused to surrender, not the U.S. That wasn't imposing power, my friend. It was war.

Unfortunately, Dean, I have to get to work, I'll go over the rest of your post later. Have a good day.
 
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RE: Australia Weapons Program

Tue Jan 29, 2002 3:17 am

The Aussie armed forces are small, (unsurprising as the country has a small population), but are highly professional.
Their SAS is in Afghanistan, unsurprising as the British and Aussie SAS have close links.
In both world wars they were highly rated by the enemy, same applies to Vietnam. There was little they could do there about the wrong-headed approach to that conflict.
Don't knock the 'supporting roles' either, if nothing else it allowed the major combatants to allocate more of their resourses. (During the Falklands war, the New Zealand Navy sent a frigate to help out the Royal Navy who were then operating patrols off the Persian Gulf, allowing an extra RN ship to join the fray in the South Atlantic).

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