Superfly
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Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 5:35 pm

Not that it really matters but is the United States ready for a swinging bachelor President?
41 of our 42 Presidents were married men. James Buchanan is /was the only bachelor President. All the others have given the façade of being a ‘happily married man’.
Has our society shifted so far to the right that it would be impossible for an honest single man to get elected?
Why can’t they just cut the crap and stop living a lie?
Women are naturally attracted to men with lots of money & power. So this ‘image’ of being a wholesome family man doesn’t fit the reality of the job.

I would even vote for a *republican candidate who was a bachelor and had many women of leisure and proudly flaunt his lifestyle! For crying out loud the US President is the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. The job could drive one to drinkin’..ooops did I say GW? Embarrassment
The leader of the free world is entitled to at least a dozen female clients!
What do you think?



The only 'single' U.S. President although he had a male 'companion'.  Big grin




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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 5:41 pm

Didn't he get married in the White House.....I am pretty sure there was one that got "hitched" while in office.

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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:05 pm

L-188:
I think you're right. I am sure people were asking questions about his 'companion'. Big grin
Again, another President living a lie.
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And The Answer Is.......

Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:16 pm

I just looked it up....

Grover Cleveland married Frances Folsom in the White House in 1886

He was the only one and Frances is the Youngest First lady we ever had at 21.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 6:41 pm

He looks like Anthony Hopkins.
What was his favourite food?? Big grin
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 7:55 pm

Taking it a step further, will a woman be elected to the White House in our lifetimes?
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:01 pm

The Pres that got hitched while in office, I'm sure that was no big deal. Back then, the Media wasn't around every corner reporting tot he masses everytime the Pres drops a log.

Look at Buchanan. Is it no wonder he wasn't married?

I would vote for a bachelor Pres if I thought he was the best man for the job. And I would hope he gets to bang only the finest ladies!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 8:23 pm

It was a private service KROC.

But I am sure the media had as much of a field day as they would now....Maybe even more so.

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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:01 pm

L-188, I doubt it. You have to remember way back when, the Media was not as powerful as it is now. There were no outlets for the Media to spread the news to the population. No T.V., no Radio, no easy way to pass the info along to newspapers all over the country. It's been said that presidents like FDR, and Woodrow Willson may not have made it to the presidency if say the population saw their president (FDR) in a wheelchair, that their confidence most likely would have wanned.
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:08 pm

Boy this is an argument for another topic....

But the print media was had a powerful influence in the past.

Just look for example at news stories that where done about the Lincoln-Douglas campaigns.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:16 pm

The married status of a person tells something about the person.
Persons who have been married a good while to the same person tend to be more stable personalities.
You don't want a president who cannot be relied upon to give carefull thought before acting.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Wed Feb 06, 2002 9:55 pm

Had to check the callender.... we are in the year 2002 not 1602. I can not believe that people are actually disussing this matter. The marital staus of a person (note no gender mentioned....) is IRRELVANT to his/her ability to be president.

You lot have had a (closeted) queer one, a gay who cheated on his wife if not daily then frequently, and another one who has blowjob from his assistant so why not a single gay woman?

On another matter:
Looking at the present one is easy to see that is doen´t take much to make president in the us
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 1:03 am

But wouldn't the bachelor Prez have more time to do the job if he wasn't heading a family also?

Just look at society, there are millions of divorced families out there, and many Gen Xers who aren't real keen about the marriage thing. It will only be a matter of time before it happens.

But who would be the one? All the best candidates are married.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 1:08 am

There was a widowed US president once. His daughter assumed the role of first lady. But I don´t remember who it was. Any help?

Daniel Smile

P.S.: What will be first: a female, a gay, a black or a single president?
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 1:30 am

Female, Black & Single could come at any time. A known gay will be the last. Don't be mad at me, just the way it is.
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 1:40 am

Seems the US already has had a gay single president
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 2:58 am

Jefferson was a widower, and his daughter served as his first lady. He was torn to shreds by his wifes death and because of that, he never remarried. Andrew Jacksons wife died before he could take office, and he too never remarried. I don't remember who his first lady was. John Tyler was married while in office, but he was a widower. He and his 2 wives were quite busy, because he had a total of 15 kids.

Buchanan never married, but he was engaged. His fiancee died before they were married and he vowed to never to marry in rememberance of her. This excuse might be a cover-up for a significant other.
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 4:52 am

Interesting replies. Keep them coming.  Smile

Remember my opening sentence; "Not that it really matters but......."

Let's not lose sight of that.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 12:28 pm

Superfly for president!!!!
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 12:37 pm

NOW THAT's scary.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 12:45 pm

I am confident that an unmarried candidate could be elected; it is just that, between the natural urge to couple-up, and social habit, there aren't many who make it that far without a mate.

But don't act so surprised that marital infidelity casts a pall over the credibility of a politician; character does matter, and if one cannot be trusted to honor the sacred vows (or very strong promises, if you want to stay secular about it) to their spouse, why should they be trusted with any promises or responsibility of public office?

As for your observations about women being attracted to power, thus making the image of a wholesome family man somehow a myth? No, must disagree. The fact that a person in power has a higher frequency and quality of temptations does not in any way excuse the act of succumbing to those temptations. Cheating is cheating (or, like the old joke goes, "we've established what you are, we're just haggling over price").

To follow that line of reasoning would allow (f'rinstance) Enron execs to be cleared of any ultimate dishonesty because the size of their ultimate ill-gotten profits was so great that they were somehow incapable of resisting. Rubbish. Cheating's cheating, stealing's stealing, not too darned complicated.

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As for the other question, anticipate a woman President, when the right candidate comes along, at any time. The country is certainly ready for it.

But it is not likely to be Senator Clinton.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 4:42 pm

I am all for a bachelor President.
As long as he is a Republican, I am all for it! Big grin
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 7:11 pm

Sophiemaltese:
Thanks for the support.  Big thumbs up



Sccutler:
An Enron Exec. wouldn't get in to trouble if he cheated on his wife. It's none of our business just as the Clinton affair was none of our business.
As far as bad business practices and ripping thousand of people off, that IS our business and must be dealt with.
As far as a Female, Black, Latino pres., I could care less if they're just a token.
Hillary isn't my top choice either. I'd rather have Sheila Lee Jackson for pres.  Smile






Jwenting:
The married status of a person tells something about the person.
Persons who have been married a good while to the same person tend to be more stable personalities.
You don't want a president who cannot be relied upon to give carefull thought before acting.


WHAT?!?!?!?  Confused

Your statement has NO logic at all!
You just insulted every single adult here. You made a blanket generalization about married couples being trustworthier than single people. You need to find some fact to back that foolish claim up kid.  Insane

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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 07, 2002 7:18 pm

Sheila Jackson....Don't know her.

Is she related to La-toya Jackson by any chance Confused
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:55 am

I'd be all for a bachelor president as long as he is a Green Party President!


I think the Sheila L. Jackson Superfly is talking about is ther Congresswomwan from Houston, Texas.
She was on the Clinton Impeechment committtee that was an outspoken supporter of Clinton.
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Fri Feb 08, 2002 3:02 pm

1. Green Party- Have you actually read their platform? I have. It ain't about the environment. It's all about socialism and folks, its been tried, it don't work, hang it up.

2. 'Fly- I was making a point of irony- you'd implied (at the top of the thread) that infidelity by a President was excusable since (in essence) the Preident was subject to lots of top-quality temptation. My analogy still stands, since there is a betrayal of trust, whether it be the trust of one (the wife) or of thousands (of employees and shareholders).

All this is hypothet, but we all know who we're writing about; remeber (again) the President Clinton doid not get in trouble (real trouble) for getting a little. He got in trouble when he was asked about it, and (1) chose to answer (with an anser which he thought was to his benefit); and (2) lied. If he'd told those posing the queries to pound sand, we'd have had little fuss. I wish he'd had the foresight and judgment to choose that path.

But Nixon suffered the same fate, for much the same reason; he believed (as did President Clinton) that he could get away with the lie. Both guessed wrong, both suffered consequences.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Fri Feb 08, 2002 6:45 pm

Didn't Buchanan have a pet name for his male companion? Either he or his significant other called the other "Aunt Fancy".

Who was the gay president who cheated on his wife every day? JFK? Do tell!

I read on another website that George Bush Sr. had a mistress whom he placed in a State Department position. No wonder Barbara Bush was so sour-faced all the time. I heard rumors about this, but don't know if it's true or not.
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 21, 2002 12:15 pm

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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Thu Feb 21, 2002 12:22 pm

I don't think we will see a women or gay in office for a while.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Fri Feb 22, 2002 1:25 am

I don't anticipate seeing a never-married President any time soon. Many people would be suspicious that he was gay, and just the suspicions would be enough to make him unelectable. A divorced person also would face a difficult time getting elected, there once again being plenty of people in the United States who strongly disapprove of divorce. Reagan, of course, had been divorced, but that's a different matter, as the divorce took place decades before he ran for President and he had long since remarried.
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Fri Feb 22, 2002 1:36 am

What wild coincidence as we were talking about this just yesterday.

A BACHELOR prez would be great. I feel bad for Clinton in a way. Poor guy just couldn't help himself and deserved to free himself. Sometimes marraige is not the way to go.

Too bad most people don't realize that many fulfilling relationships can be just as good as that one "great" monogamous one.

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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Fri Feb 22, 2002 7:58 am

Didn't they make a movie out of this premise?
 
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RE: Bachelor President Of The United States?

Fri Feb 22, 2002 8:44 am

It was called "The American President" with Micheal Douglas.

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