Sonic
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Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:02 am

You may call me dumb, but I want to ask you: does KKK still exists? I thought it is no longer here since 60s, but it seems in these forums telling that someone belongs to KKK is quite popular. If they does exists, where? Only in some totalitaristic third-world countries or in America also?
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:05 am

Unfortunately, they still exist. Read what Encarta has to say about them:

http://encarta.msn.com/find/Concise.asp?z=1&pg=2&ti=761562317
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:16 am

Yes, also in America. Sad I don't know how active they are anymore, but there is one guy that I know of that lives here in Ohio between Cincinnati and Columbus. He lives just off the highway and he flies the Confederate flag (in OHIO!) and there is a burned cross in his front yard. I've heard that he is the head Klan guy in Ohio, or something along those lines (not completely sure though).

Before I go to Cincinnati, I always pray that my car doesn't break down on the way. Smile
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:17 am

>but it seems in these forums telling that someone belongs to KKK is quite popular

There is a disproportionate number of complete idiots here that spew that kind of crap....
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:19 am

Quite a group they are. They had a rally here in Cleveland several years ago, only because the Black Panthers were rallying the same day. As a Catholic, I do not like the KKK. Reading some of the sayings they put in their original charter from that link made them sound not-so-bad, but they are. Sadly, my grandmother was thinking of becoming an active KKK member until she found out they don't like Catholics.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:22 am

In my opinion, the Black Panthers are just as bad...
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:27 am

he Black Panthers are not "just as bad". True Black Panthers were for the upliftment of there people, as much as defending themselves. And you have to remember, the Panthers were formed because the blacks needed something to counter act the KKK.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:27 am

So it does means it is only some kind of political organisation now, not knights, who are killing all blacks.

BTW: how would you call such websites as . A joke or a true Klan websites?
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:27 am

It is 2002. People need to get over all of this Black-White stuff. Makes me sick...
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:28 am

Sorry, didn't put a link. It's whitesonly.org
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:32 am

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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:35 am

I don't like violence between races (from both sides), because I think everyone is human. So, I don't like both KKK and Black Panthers.

However, I do believe some segregation ("different, but equal") should exist for the sake of both races. I believe that race is something you have unique, like religion or nation and it shouldn't mix up (now it seems that amount of true whites and true blacks is decreasing). I wouldn't like if all world would be just one race, "brownies". Also, no matter what are government policies, people of different races still seems to engage in conflicts much more than people of the same race.
Don't think I would like just get rid of blacks, I think blacks should be able to use the equal schools, colleges and material as whites, but only different to lower the possibility of families with members of both races.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:38 am

Dude, Segragation of anykind will always harm, never help. Seeing you type that makes me feel like I am trapped in the 60's in Alabama.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:42 am

Those Idiots in the KKK were having Meetings in my County in Southern Ohio Until a couple of years ago.
Those Dumbasses in the KKK piss me off! Pissed
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America West

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:45 am

Hey America West havent you noticed that you see those Stupid Confederate Flags Everywere in Southwestern Ohio?
Another Day, Another Dollar.... Young Jeezy
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:52 am

I live in Columbus and the only place in southern Ohio that I go is Cincinnati. I don't know if there're a lot around there, but I've never noticed before.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 10:59 am

I've been to a couple of ARA (Anti-Racist Action)meetings in my area. They have quite a few chapters across Canada, and the United States. They were responsible for driving all the nazi's out of Toronto 10 years ago, and is a group that shares similar beliefs as i do. Although they are heavily criticized for using harsh language and sometimes resorting to violence. I dont care, I think nazi's deserve whatever happens to them. They are not only racist, they are also homophobic, and basically hate anyone that doesnt look like them.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:07 am

Depends on what you consider nazi... I was once banned from one forums for "nazistic threads", and these threads were where I did posted that I would die for my country and that I think that there should be only Lithuanians in Lithuania...
If such people could be called nazis, then half of world are nazis. However, if you mean such people, who are raising flags with swastics (and wearing clothes Hitler weared), killing all other people except their religion/race/nation, then I do agree that some actions should be taken against them.
However, I disagree with all the violance on people, becaus e they are different race/nationality/religion or just has different opinions. Look, what are countries like Israel, which has violent conflicts inside? Ussually, people hates such countries and doesn't like to visit them...
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:14 am

Is it me or are there more and more Racist on these Forums?
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:42 am

Sonic,
You know these nazi's (oh, and i already described what a nazi is above, i mean the white power bigot type) pick fights all the time. I dont see the ARA as a violent organization. These guys clearly need to be driven out, and they have been mostly sucessful. Learn more about the ARA, search up Anti-Racist Action on google, you might have a local chapter in your city.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 12:23 pm

Yes, unfortunately they do. When my brother was in college everyone in his class had to make a presentation on some kind of event that happened to them. I don't remember the exact assignment, but a girl in the class wrote about how a guy she went on a first date with took her to a klan meeting. She freaked and was totally shocked that they do still exist. Scary. It was around an area where a lot of my family lives too.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 4:40 pm

N400QX



How can you call yourself a conservative when you slam the Black Panthers? They never killed a white person, were for local controlled schools, self-reliance and supported the 2nd. Amendment. They adopted all of the values of conservatism.
Sonic brought up a topic about the KKK. Why in on earth world you bring up the Black Panthers?
The Black Panthers never had any clout our control over state politics unlike the KKK in the Deep South in the 1950s & 60s.
The Ku Klutz Klan is an embarrassment to the United States and everything our great country stands for.
I support the women’s movement up and down!
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 6:57 pm

Someone ought to tell the KK characters, that White Europeans are also *illegal invaders*. The original inhabitants of the US of A are confined to reservations.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 8:19 pm

India,

I think it's more about their belief of white supremacy than who should be where. Have you ever noticed the KKK dudes you see are generally the bottom of the gene pool?



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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Thu Feb 07, 2002 11:37 pm

Many of them are "at the bottom of the gene pool", as you aptly put it, ADG, but you'd be surprised this day and age how many of them are white-collared workers, with high-paying jobs. Many are like David Duke-dressed in business suits, speaking what sounds like reasonable talk, when it's just veiled hatred.

They're trying to change their "image" from white sheets to suit and tie, just to try and attract middle-class workers, especially in what we call the old "rust belt"-areas like Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago, that used to thrive on heavy industry like steel and automobile manufacturing, but who have seen these jobs die out, in part because of foreign competition.

In it's own way, it's as scary as the heyday of the burning crosses and the whitesheets.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 3:33 am

British journalist Jon Ronson made a TV programme on his meeting with the KKK a couple of years ago.
What a bunch of inbreds! Thick too, despite the efforts of the new leader, or 'Grand Hogwarts Lizard' or whatever he called himself, to present a 'moderate' front. There were very few of them too.
The new boss even cut down on the cross-burning and robe wearing, to the visable irritation of the 'Billy-Bobs'.
Ronson even persuaded them to let him try on a robe, despite their paranoid obsessions, they never knew that Ronson was Jewish.
He's made a few films like this, with other loonies like McVeigh's fans (mostly Nazis as it happens), those who think 12 people rule the world and similar fruitcakes.
Jon Ronson has a quiet, gentle, unassuming style, which lets these people talk and hang themselves with their words.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 5:35 am

Its a pity that the intelligent people who live in the south allowed the klan to take the confederate flag as a symbol in the 50's and 60's.....its a symbol of rebellion...not slavery...at least to a great many people in the south...
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 9:16 am

"I think that there should be only Lithuanians in Lithuania..."

Shame on you. Why did you bring this topic up, so you can find out if you can join the KKK?  Insane

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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 9:38 am

Allright, I just re-read sonic's post
and i think i have a better understanding of what it means now.

Segregation and "racial supremacy" are things that nazi's stands for, and if you hold such beliefs, then you might as well be a nazi.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 9:52 am

Yeah, unfortunately they exist and are active today. They live somewhere in Kentucky (now they're the kkkk) and a lot of them have burnt crosses on their front yards.
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 9:55 am

Vafi,
They span more states than just kentucky.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 10:10 am

I am patriot, but not nazi. I am not planning to join KKK. As I said before, I support segregation not because I feel blacks should be isolated, but for the sake of all races, because I feel that races should remain the same (as nationalities or religions), I don't want to see all humanity in one race. In Lithuania, we don't have any racial problems because there are maybe just 4 or so blacks in Lithuania and all are known publically. I am Roman Catholic. I posted this topic because of the question mentioned in topic's first post, however, now it turned into discution about KKK... So I am asking you, why do you thing segregation would be bad (no, I am not talking about black ghettos like in 80s South Africa, just different schools, colleges, maybe some other facilities, for blacks and whites)? Read my post before for more info on my thoughts.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 11:56 am

You just called yourself a nazi!
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 12:58 pm

Sonic,

I thought you were all American?



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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:33 pm

Well, Bombstar, I don't think you should consider me nazi, because:
-I am not raising swastics or confederate flags
-I am not attacking other races or nationalities people
-I am not supporting KKK or other such organisations
-I am detractor of any violence
The fact I am supporting limited segregation does not consider me being nazi. BTW, you still didn't answered my question before.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:36 pm

Whats your question?

I never called you a nazi, you called yourself one, read your previous post where you say half the world are nazi's. I dont believe in segregation, that just starts more conflicts, I think there is only one race in the entire world, and thats the Human Race.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:42 pm

Well, it seems you answered it now, the question was:
So I am asking you, why do you thing segregation would be bad (no, I am not talking about black ghettos like in 80s South Africa, just different schools, colleges, maybe some other facilities, for blacks and whites)? Read my post before for more info on my thoughts.

BTW, you said that there is only human race, but it is the same as say that there is only one human nationality or one religion.
In reality, nationality, race and sometimes religion are like name or parents -- you get them with birth. This is something you get unique from others.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 2:45 pm



The KKK first all of needs to be understood in a political capacity as a reaction to the excesses of the post-Civil War Reconstruction era in which white southerners were humiliated and deprived of their ancestral lands by zealous northern industrialists and property speculators.
Most white southerners never owned slaves to begin with. A second resurgence of the KKK came during the 1920's when the US was swamped by waves of mostly Catholic European Immigrants. Anti-Catholicism has always been a potent force in American political life...America was founded after all to be a Protestant refuge of sorts.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:05 pm

Hoffa, is that meant to be a validation or apology for the KKK??

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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Fri Feb 08, 2002 4:14 pm

BTW, you said that there is only human race, but it is the same as say that there is only one human nationality or one religion.
In reality, nationality, race and sometimes religion are like name or parents -- you get them with birth. This is something you get unique from others.


Maybe so, I choose not to get obsessed over this. My parents are from Taiwan, and I am Canadian. I simply dont care about race. I like my country (Canada), because of what it stands for, but lately the governments been pissing me off. And I was born without a religion. I believe we should all be able to get over our differences and live peacefully on this planet.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Mon Feb 11, 2002 6:36 am

SONIC: Why does there need to be segregation? I agree with what KROC said, it will only harm. I'm sure that there are enough people in this world that have the same opinions and ideas that you do (keeping the entire world from becoming "brownies" (as you say)).

Segregating schools and other facilities would never do anything but create stereotypes and more racism.

...that [the] amount of true whites and true blacks is decreasing).

Source?

What's wrong with variety?

This is 2002 not the 1960's. I can't believe that people are still talking about segregation. Insane
 
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Indiana

Mon Feb 11, 2002 6:55 am

In my American History Class, We were discussing the KKK and the Instructor said Indiana has the most KKK members.

Can anyone verify that?

SKYTEAM
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Mon Feb 11, 2002 8:49 am

In my American History Class, We were discussing the KKK and the Instructor said Indiana has the most KKK members.

Can anyone verify that?


I don't know, but somehow I have a feeling that N400QX and the late (meaning deleted) Twotterstench would most likely know this kind of information. Also, the little Finnish guy (can't remember his name) that was going on and on about how all Somalians should be killed in Finland because they're lazy and steal all the Finnish girls, should also know the answer to that question. I believe his name was something like, "Yoona," "Noona," "Juuna," or "Junoo". (Whatever, I don't feel like searching... Check the "Ethiopians in Finland" thread from a couple of weeks ago.)

Yep, I strongly believe those guys (as well as several other ones) would be very knowledgeable about white power hate groups.
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Mon Feb 11, 2002 11:22 am

Interesting how Hoffa and N400QX has remained silent once people ask them a simple question about there support for the KKK.

I support the women’s movement up and down!
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Mon Feb 11, 2002 1:57 pm

I want to say that I completely condemn and am disgusted with Sonic's comments in his thirs post here. I feel and know that I am enriched by the people of different races I know and associate with. Having them separated would be a grave injustice to us all.

His venomous words are posted below:
I don't like violence between races (from both sides), because I think everyone is human. So, I don't like both KKK and Black Panthers.

However, I do believe some segregation ("different, but equal") should exist for the sake of both races. I believe that race is something you have unique, like religion or nation and it shouldn't mix up (now it seems that amount of true whites and true blacks is decreasing). I wouldn't like if all world would be just one race, "brownies". Also, no matter what are government policies, people of different races still seems to engage in conflicts much more than people of the same race.
Don't think I would like just get rid of blacks, I think blacks should be able to use the equal schools, colleges and material as whites, but only different to lower the possibility of families with members of both races.


TNNH
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Mon Feb 11, 2002 2:35 pm

Username: 777-200
Posted 2002-02-07 02:45:29 and read 318 times.
Hey America West havent you noticed that you see those Stupid Confederate Flags Everywere in Southwestern Ohio?


Hello,
Ignorant people that the above really make me upset. Look at what he/she posted. Confederate flags are NOT stupid, however they are part of the Southern heritage in which I live in the sout and I am proud of it, I wouldnt want to be a Yankee only a Southerner............
To say the least and to keep this mature I am offended by that post and would like an apology. I do doubt that I will get one though, as I am sure that I might just be attacked from your other fellow users for this reply. Our flag of the South has nothing to do with racism and do not try to tell me that it does. My great X X X X???? Grandfather carried that flag for Robert E Lee.................Now back to the original topic, I do have some family in the KKK
(white trash as you might call them)........... We do not usally associate with them though. One of my family members was fairly high ranking. And yes the tripple k is still alive and doing quite well. As a matter of fact there was a rally in which I atteneded here near my hometown not to long ago. Do not get me wrong or anything I am not a racist however I just went to see what it was like with a few of my friends. What are the black panthers like???????????????
 
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RE: Ku Klux Klan

Mon Feb 11, 2002 4:03 pm

Old. Now, they're known as the Grey Panthers
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