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Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 3:38 am

I miss Jokeman  Sad

The show just isn't the same without him cackiling in the background.

They never got an official replacement did they?

BRING BACK JOKEMAN!!!!
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Matt D
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:02 am

I didn't know he was gone.

What happened?

I used to be a big fan of Stern and Co. until about 1996, at which point he "sold out" and went mainstream and stopped doing all the stuff that made him famous such as "Black Jeopardy", the song parodies, hanging up on callers, making fun of anyone and everyone, and so on.

Now all he talks about is sex, and you can only hear that for about 5 minutes at a time betweem the 25 minute commercial breaks.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 6:21 am

Matt D. I must argue your point. I am an avid Stern fan, and while in the military for almost 6 years, I was always in a city where is wasn't. I couldn't listen to him from like 95-01, and when I picked up with the show again, sure it ws different, but I don't think he has sold out. Every radio morning show still bites his stuff, and he still set's trends. While I haven't heard stuff like Black Jeopardy in awhile, he does still do his racial comedy. He still does song parodies regularly, hangs up on callers/blows them off, and makes fun of pretty much everyone. As good as his show was in the early 90's, the run can only go so long. Is his show still very good...yes. Is it as good as maybe it was in the early 90's, no, but maybe it is. 10 years ago, Stern was doing what hadden't been done before. Now, what he does, seems to be the norm. He just does it better.

There is still no 'official' replacement for Jackie, but Artie Lang pretty much has the Jackie Chair full time. I liked Jackie, but he could be a collasal prick to deal with. He was forever threatening to quit the show, then would come back, and crap like that. When I got out of the military last year, and was driving home, it was March 24, 2001 when I heard show again for the first time. It had just happened that Jackie walked off the Show. When Stern didn't beg him back, it became permanent. Artie Lang is okay in his spot. He can be funny at times, but I think he feeds off of Howard too much. Also, there are times when I get so sick of him, then something happens to make him tollerable. Like in Vegas last week, Artie hooked up with a chick, banged her, and afterwards she was like $500! He paid her, and it came out on the show. Yesterday, Howard debued the song parody of "Artie's Whore" derived from Rick Springfields "Jesse's Girl". Now that they rip on him all the time, I like him again. Also, comedian (and most known for his "Tellemarketer Terrorism" stuff) Jim Florentine fills in. I like him. He is great. And even the Evil Dave Letterman fills in now and then too. The Evil Letterman is absolute classic!!!!!!
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:33 am

There is no debate as to whether or not Stern is/was an innovator. He was in inumerable ways.

But the problem is that he let it all go this head. He is now so full of himself and dripping with narcissism that you have to wipe yourself off whenever you listen to him.

IMO the only thing keeping him afloat is the name. He is a name only with no substance. You may argue that an act can only run for so long, and then must be changed. I would have to argue that "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Look at the Southwest Airlines model.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:47 am

You may argue that an act can only run for so long, and then must be changed. I would have to argue that "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Look at the Southwest Airlines model.

That may be true for someone who flies an irline occasionally, but when people listen to something 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year, the content will tend to get stale, which is why new things have to be tried, or conceived.

I honestly don't feel Howard is full of himself. He still makes fun of himself all the time, but what he recognizes is that he did revolutionize radio. He put out a hit movie when NOBODY in Hollywood wanted to admit it, he has a succesful T.V. Show in Son of the Beach, he has the number one T.V. Show on the E! Channel. If he has some ego....it's rightfully so, yet it is nothing campared to that of say Imus, Rush, or anyone else in Hollywood. Howard knows what got him to where he is, and he is still doing that.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:50 am

Well then maybe my tastes have changed since then cuz I've listened to him a few times, and I just don't like him any more.

Back in '92 and '93 I taped a bunch of his radio shows. I should dig them up, listen to them, and then see if I still think he's funny. Or more importantly, listen to the tapes, and then listen to him now and see how they compare.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:53 am

I love the Stern show! I don't analyze it that much, I just love the show. I try and listen every day if I can. Personally, I don't think the show has lost much since Jackie left.

Chris
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 7:56 am

Matt D. I agree that Stern or 92-94 is better than Stern of say 00-02. I love hearing the best of Stern when he is out or on vacation. LLike Skyway though, I don't over analyze the show, I just let it entertain me.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 8:18 am

Did you guys see part of the E! show where Joe Rogan of fear factor was commentating on Jemma Jamison's massaging of the contestant winner? It was great, enough to have me hooked. Like KROC said, we just let it entertain us. I hope Stern doesn't quit anytime soon because it is great to listen to in the morning!

Chris
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 9:56 am

I just think his "edge" has vanished. Part of his appeal (to me) was knowing he was doing his "stripper/lesbian" routine while being "happily married."

Now that he's divorced, it's a bit more pathetic.

Just MHO.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:17 am

Now there's a good point you bring up there Johnboy.

If you listened to his old shows, read his books, or even saw his movie, a central theme was his constant complaining about he was never "able to get laid".

So then he found Allison, who supposedly fulflled all of his desires and made him happy (well for awhile anyway). And then once he got what he wanted, all he did was bitch and complain about it. He STILL wasn't happy. Suddenly he wanted to be single again.

Frankly, I'm amzed that he stayed with her as long as he did.

Does anyone know why they divorced? Do you suppose that Howard was bitter over getting married so young only to later have all of these women available that he did?

I guess the temptation finally got to him and he buckled under.

Now Howard is a classic example of "being careful of what you wish for. You just might get it".


And I don't feel sorry for him one bit.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:25 am

Dude, Matt D. This is not meant to be an insult, but how can you judge, when you don't know what you are talking about.....

He did not buckle under to the pressue. The main reason he and his wife got a divorce was because he was a workaholic. Allisons gripe was that he spent so much itme working, when it came time for her, and or he family, he was to tired, or still at work. He and his ex-wife remain friends to this day. They even spent a fir amount of time in marriage counsling and such. Howard say he is bitter about only one thing, that his marriage didn't last. Being married, and doing a radio show with stripper/lesbian whatever are two different things. Howard Stern is 2 different people. He is Howard on the radio, and he is Howard off the radio.

As for his edge, he is back in a serious relationship with a chick. Neither have the inclination of marriage, but are committed to each other. He may as well be married again. It's the same type of situationj.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:27 am

Well I DIDN'T know what happened (hence the "Does anyone know.... question).

I was only hazarding a guess, based on what I did know.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:36 am

You guys call '92-'93 the "good ol' days" of the Stern show...but the REAL good ol' days were when he first came to New York, on WNBC.

NO ONE had heard anything like it. They stared at their radios going "oh my GOD". I was a 16 year old kid racing my bike home from my job at the drugstore in Dennisport, Cape Cod...I got off work at 3pm, right when he started. I could tune him in on my bedside radio on AM 660, the 50,000 watt blowtorch that you could easily pick up from NY City.

He was amazing. Not just a shock jock, or vulgar, but hilarious and relatable.

And there lies the problem...in 1985 Howard had RULES he had to obey. He had to obey a boss, a company, broadcast regulations, his WIFE....he had all the shackles the regular guy did, so along with being hilarious he was RELATABLE. He broke some rules, obeyed others and took some right to the edge.

Now, who does he have to obey? His boss? He IS the Boss. His company? The one he's made hundreds of millions for? Nah nah. The FCC? Twenty years of Howard copycats have deadend them to caring about complaints anymore.

And his wife? Gone.

Now we're listening to a guy indulge himself every morning. It's a different show. Funny at times, but who(without a huge wad of cash) can relate to 18 strippers doing whatever you want them to? And how funny is the umpteenth dwarf farting into a microphone.

Howard was , is and always will be a legend. I'm just glad I heard him live & in color in the 'Private Parts' days.

(BTW....the REAL 'Pig Vomit' from the movie was MY Boss for three years. Kevin's actually a sweet guy who admits the Pig Vomit charector was a combination of him & a couple of other guys at the station.....although he says he NEVER got into a fist fight with Howard  Wink/being sarcastic

 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:39 am

Howard has said parts of the movie were "Hollywoodized".
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:40 am

Matt D. I understand you asked does anyone know. Making it clear you don't. Then the next line is ...

I guess the temptation finally got to him and he buckled under.

Clearly making an assumption after you said you didn't know what happened.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Fri Feb 15, 2002 10:43 am

That's funny cuz in the book "Private Parts", his NBC nemesis is referred to as "Pig VIRUS", not "Pig Vomit" as in the movie.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Sat Feb 16, 2002 12:27 pm

Speaking of song parody's. Here is a Stern inspired classic!!!

Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started
Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started

Get this thread started on a Friday I believe
Everybody's waiting for Matt D to come clean
Sending out the message to all of his friends
He'll be looking gay dressed up as a drag queen
He's got lots of style, check his big hoop earrings
He can go for miles if you know what I mean

Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started
(He's coming out, uh huh)
Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started

Pumping up the volume, acting gay in the heat
Cruising through West Hollywood
He'll be checking the scene
Boulevard is freaking as He's coming up fast
He'll be getting a rubber, you'll be kissing his a**
Pull up to the bumper, get out of the car
License plate says Stunner Number One Closet-star

Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started
(He's coming out, uh huh)
Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started
Get this party started

Making his connection as he enter's the room
Everybody's chillin' as he set's up his groove
Pumping up the volume with this brand new beat
All the guys are dancing and he's checkin' their meat
He's your operator, you can call any time
He'll be your connection to the coming out line

Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started
(He's coming out, uh huh)
Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started
Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started
(He's coming out, uh huh)
Matt D is coming out
So you better get this party started

Get this party started
Get this party started right now
Get this party started
Get this party started
Get this party started right now
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Sat Feb 16, 2002 4:20 pm

hmmm, KROC "rocks"
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Sat Feb 16, 2002 4:21 pm

opps I forgot.. only available on Wegmans CD's
Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
 
KROC
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:39 pm

Ihadapheo. I have a deal with P&C to sell my CD's as well. That way all the hicks and 315ers have a chance to enjoy my songs as well.
 
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RE: Should Howard Stern Bring Back Jackie?

Sun Feb 17, 2002 2:24 pm

KROC, what would this fourm do without you?? lol, you are so funny.
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