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Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 4:26 am

Does organised crime still exist in places like New York, Miami etc, to be more precise, are the mafia still around? Or are have their organised crime rings been smashed by the FBI?

And did the mafia only exist in Italy and america or were they operating in other countries?

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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 5:39 am

A watch it!
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 6:39 am

Fuggettaboutit.
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 6:44 am

Of course they are!

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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 6:56 am

You guys sure they are still around?
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 7:16 am

Russian Mafia...
 
heavymetal
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:07 am

The five familes of New York are still around, though the last ten years haven't been kind. The Gambino family, once the most visible and arguably the most powerful, has still never recovered from the imprisonment of John Gotti in 1991. His son was named defacto boss afterwards, but now I think Junior's in the joint too, and I read his skills as a boss left something to be desired. At any rate, I've read John Senior doesn't have long on this Earth, suffering from terminal cancer.

The Genovese family apparently still retains much of its' power. They were always as big and as powerful as the Gambinos, but their boss, the cagey Vincent 'The Chin' Gigante, despised the attention that Gotti seemed to crave. While the Feds tried to figure out whether Chin was wacko (he strolled around Greewich Village New York in bathrobe and a slippers, mumbling to himself), he built a tightly operating ship that kept its' mouth shut way better than the Gotti operation. In the 90s, the Mob moved into new venues like pre-paid phone card scams and especially stock 'shorting' scams.

Much of the non - New York Mafia is decimated. Cleveland was once a powerful Mafia capital, but the active membership there is down under a half dozen or so, according to what I've heard. Miami was always an 'open city' (no Mob family could claim exclusivity there, though the 60s and 70s saw Santos Trafficante as the lord of the town). 80s coke wars and 90s latin influence wrenched much of the organized crime element from Italian control.

Strange...ten years ago Gotti predicted we'd miss guys like him....that at least the 'American' Mafia had honor and rules....I suppose that could be very EASILY debated but remember this...in World War 2, the Mafia were the unofficial 'guardians' of the docks of this country's major ports. They worked covertly..and sometimes not so covertly...with police and military security people to report infiltrators, spys, sabotuers. And later, in the 50s and 60s the Mob was used as 'muscle' by the FBI..(in a famous case, a Mob hit man was flown by the FBI into Philadelphia, Mississippi and held a razor to the scrotum of the town's mayor....who immeadiately coughed up the location of the bodies of three murdered civil rights activists.)

It would be interesting to surmise what role the Mafia would play in the war against terrorists.
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 9:23 am

Thanks for all that information Heavymetal. Quite suprised the mafia still have a presence, i thought they were dead and buried for good by the feds.

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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:17 am

The US-American and Italian mafia are nothing compared to the Russian mafia..

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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:20 am

"The US-American and Italian mafia are nothing compared to the Russian mafia.."

Are you sure? Last time I heard, the Russian mafia was selling tainted hot dogs at carts on the streets of London to make ends meet. Must be hard times for them.
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:28 am

There is also the Mexican Mafia, but it is more or less a street gang.
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 10:33 am

Joona, while you'll get no argument from me as to the power of the Russian mob in Russia, here in the states, the Russian mob's influence in limited. They seem to actually be picking up the scraps of businesses the Italian mafia long ago deemed peripheral. Here in South Florida, the Russians are particularly adept at strip club ownership, and many strip joints are now staffed almost exclusively with girls from Russia and Eastern Europe.

I've also heard the Russian mob were early frontrunning importers of the drug exstacy.

They seem to be most powerful in the Russian neighborhoods of New York, here in South Florida, and L.A.
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Feb 24, 2002 4:38 pm

Decades of sustained goverment action, the threat of 30 years to life for those caught drug trafficking, hence more are willing to be used against their associates by the FBI.
Then all these quaint 'honours' and 'codes' are increasingly alien to the society they operate in now.
When the first series of 'The Sopranos' was aired, an FBI bug picked up some real New Jersey mobsters wondering how the programme was so accurate, and speculating which of the characters was based on themselves!


 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Mar 03, 2002 12:22 pm

Still around, but RICO act has played an important role in curtailing its activities.

Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO)...states that is unlawful "for any person employed by or associated with any enterprise engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce, to conduct or participate ... in the conduct of such enterprise's affairs through a pattern of racketeering activity or collection of unlawful debt." 18 U.S.C. SS 1961-1968

 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Mar 03, 2002 1:35 pm

if you people only knew what i know.

you wouldn't believe me if i told you, but i'll never do that anyway.

but i will say one thing. the mafia is still out there.
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Mar 03, 2002 10:56 pm

dell dude.. sounds interesting..

Where are they? and what do they do now?

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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Sun Mar 03, 2002 10:58 pm

"if you people only knew what i know."

"I'm not sure if you're familiar with who runs that business, but I can assure you it's not the Boy Scouts."
-Rodney Dangerfield Back to School

Dell_Dude-

Are you talking about who "runs" the garbage business?
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Mon Mar 04, 2002 2:47 am

I was referring to members of my family on my fathers side, but that's all i can really say. sorry
 
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Dell Dude

Mon Mar 04, 2002 3:43 am

Hey, you being frank about da business on this Internet thing?
 
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RE: Is The Mafia Still Around?

Mon Mar 04, 2002 3:54 am

I'd be careful not to piss off Don KROC.
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