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Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 2:09 am

Looks like the Swiss have decided to join the UN after a referendum revealed 55% in favour.

(BBC News reports)....

Just thought I'd let you know...I know you all love to keep abreast of the latest developments in current affairs!

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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 2:11 am

So now everyone but the Vatican is in the UN. Nobody left to join, really.
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 2:42 am

Ah yes, another extremely belated sign of progress in Switzerland. Well, what can you expect of a western European country that only gave women the right to vote in the 1970s?
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 4:56 am

The absurd anti-UN propagandists, largely from the extreme religeous right in the US, plus assorted Neo-Nazis elsewhere, have to explain how the Swiss could actually choose whether or not to join.
Surely if the UN is some vast 'one-world' Communist, Zionist plot to enslave white christian people, the Swiss would have been 'assimilated' years ago?
The Swiss certainly have a unique system, there was a motion to completly disband the Swiss Armed Forces, that one was not successful!
But Swiss prosperity and stability speak for themselves, their system is working for them, but is allowing accomodation of the more integrated world we live in.
Anyone on here with knowlegde of how the Swiss system of frequent referendums evolved, and it's history?
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 5:41 am

GDB i dont know how it evolved but its true that the public iniated the referendum.

If you get 100'000 signatures from swiss citizens you can bring them to Bern and then they will hold a referendum on it. It was the same way with todays election. Also a referndum over here is binding and not just a suggestion for parlament.

Tom
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 9:36 am

They can take our place....  Insane
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 9:45 am

Sorry Zach, but you're anti-UN stance is not what America needs. This isolationism crap that the right in this country drives down our throats is just that-crap.

I agree the UN is far from perfect,and oftentimes has anti-American sentiment, but it is the only place where the US and other nations can air their concerns, and, despite its imperfections, is still something the US should never abandon.
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:16 am

The Swiss have voted to begin the first step to the lose of their freedom and their nation. The next World War (and there will be one) will be the people who want freedom fighting against the totalitarian globalists led by the U.N.

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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:28 am

In reply to your post B757300:

You're full of it!  Big grin

You've seen too many black helicoptors around your house, I think!
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:32 am

Way to go again B757

if the rest of you want to sell your freedom for "global unity" go ahead. Just don't take the rest of us with you.

It is time to get America out of the UN.
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:39 am

Gee, Apathoid, we've been a part of the UN since it's inception, and I don't see the UN marching through our streets; policing every corner, and stuff like that.

I think you guys are hysterically paranoid about the UN. I don't love the place, believe me, but you guys make it out to be the boogy-man way to much. I think too many people need a boogy-man, now that the Soviet Union has folded.
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:45 am

Read a little about the Nation River Heritage Act and the UN Man and the Biosphere project. It's a land grab. It's not about police on the corner and all of that. You are the one being hysterical. I just believe the UN is a threat to our national sovreignty and being a patriot, that is a problem for me. My opinion... take it or leave it, but I don't consider it hysterical.
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 11:52 am

LOL-how am I being hysterical, Apathoid, for saying you're over-reacting? And I'll leave what you have to say. I'm a patriot as well, and I just think you guys are so fanatical about the UN that it clouds your judgement. And if the UN is taking over our soverignty, why isn't a Republican President doing anything about it? Why? Because they're NOT taking over our soverignty. It's only a paranoid fantasy in your mind. That's my opinon, take it or leave it.  Smile
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 04, 2002 2:49 pm

I am not for the US removing itself from the UN, but I also strongly believe the UN is a bloated, anti-semetic, anti-Israel grieving hall for third world nations with nothing to debate about other than their bitterness and jealousy over their well off neighbors.

but hey thats life!
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Tue Mar 05, 2002 2:59 am

Ha! All the paranoid types came out to play!
But think on this you guys, your posts said exactly the same stuff that a certain Timothy McVeigh and his neo-nazi cohorts spouted.
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 11, 2002 9:15 pm

Swiss inside here?
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 11, 2002 9:29 pm

I'm Swiss - in fact, I live just down the road from the U.N headquarters in Geneva.

I voted for adhesion to the UN, but that does not mean I like everything the U.N. does. They are an empire of bureaucrats. Most UN appointments (like ambassador to the UN) are prized because it is a nice high-profile job, with lots of nice perks (house in Geneva, no taxes, servants, cars with diplomatic plates) and very few responsibilities.

The specialized parts of the UN, like the World Health Organization, spend around 97% of their total budget in Geneva, supporting their own bureaucracy, perks, junkets, and fancy office buildings.

But that does not mean that with some serious reforms, the UN cannot become one of the greatest sources of benefit to the human race.

We can dream, can't we?

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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 11, 2002 10:28 pm

We can. nothing is perfect. at least there is an Idea. It's just a question what you make with this Idea.

I'm always a little big scared when I hear other nationalities talking about Switzerland and the Swiss. They think everyone is backwarded over here, we have cows in our garden and the capital is Stockholm.

In the same time there are quite a lot of people who think they have the right to handle the worldwide politics. No doubt about which nationality I'm talking...

Sure not of all, but to many. Hope Switzerland can change something in the UN, I have been surprised with that decission, I voted YES too. It was for sure that the Romandie (Swiss French Part) would vote yes, but that Cantons like Zurich and Lucerne would vote yes, I just liked it and I hope that this will also gain some good relation between the different parts of Switzerland
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 11, 2002 10:38 pm

Stockholm ? Isn't that the capital of Swaziland ...
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 11, 2002 11:06 pm

at least there is one who understands me, do you?
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 11, 2002 11:27 pm

LOL! When I was a kid in the U.S., I got that ALL the time!  Big grin

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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Mon Mar 11, 2002 11:41 pm

Yes Swissgabe I empathise fully with you. Try being from New Zealand if you think you have identity problems.

Sample conversation

American, " Where are you from ? "
Me, " New Zealand ! "
American, " Really ? What part of England is that ? "
Me, " Ummmm .... "
American, " I went to Ireland once ! "

BTW
Why is your homepage tokyo.ch (ch is Switzerland I know but why Tokyo ?)
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Tue Mar 12, 2002 1:01 am

Didn't know the New Zealand thing. Stockholm - Bern, ok, not that fare. But New Zealand and England, ok, anyway...

Yea, .ch means Swiss, we also have it on the car (not on the plate, just as country identification). CH means something like Convederatico Helvetica (Swiss Confideration). Why tokyo? I just like it (maybe you see it on my page) and gabriel.ch has already been taken  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Have also 747.ch and malaysia.ch and will get others soon... Feel free to visit  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Tue Mar 12, 2002 10:35 am

I was sort of hoping it would not pass, but oh well. I suppose it is not that bad.
 
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RE: Swiss: Yep, We'll Join The UN

Wed Mar 13, 2002 8:44 pm

why? waht was the reason?
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