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Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:04 am

From BBC.com

An athlete who used the phrase "you know" 30 times in a 135-second interview has helped win a scholarship for a middle school pupil in the United States.
Each year, a scholarship funded by a retired United States air force officer gives $1,000 to the pupil in Nebraska who can find the worst example of over-use of "you know".

This year's "You Know Contest" has been won by Evan Koontz, a pupil at Lincoln Pound Middle School - with a hit rate of one "you know" every 4.5 seconds.

He becomes the sixth recipient of a prize funded by Barney Oldfield, a 92-year-old veteran of the Second World War, who wants to highlight the way that the phrase is filling the airwaves.

"You know", stuck at the beginning and end of sentences, and as a pause in the middle, has been attacked for being part of teenagers' "mall speak".

Previous winners have included 13 year old Molly Kamrath who in 2000 surpassed 50 other entries with a recording of an interview which had 21 "you knows" in four minutes.

"To get 21 'you knows' in four minutes is stark testimony about how dreadfully littered we have made our beautiful English language. It deserves better treatment," wrote Mr Oldfield.

In 1999, Jessica Reinsch won the $1,000 prize with a recording of a radio interview featuring 61 examples of "you know" in 15 minutes.

Mr Oldfield has been making educational donations for many years and has given scholarships worth $3m.

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The man's a star! This dreadful phrase pervades the entire English speaking world. Maybe we should introduce the idea in the UK as well.
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:10 am

You know, he's got a point. Some of us, you know, have got a limited vocabulary, you know.  Big thumbs up

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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:23 am

DAMN, you got that joke in first!! That always happens to me, you know, and it doesn't half annoy me.
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:35 am

You know, that's also a problem in other languages. In Germany we once had a guy on TV who used the word "so" something like 80 times in one and a half minute. Afterwards he was only called the "So-Mann", you know?
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:39 am

Eal401

I know how you feel...a certain Banco spolit my fun on one of Thom@s' threads! You know, things like that always happen, you know, and so you've got to be quick off the mark, you know.

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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:39 am

Another one that really gets my goat (and I find I'm becoming increasingly intolerant about things like this as I get older!) is "basically".

Some people seem to use it at the start of every bloody sentence! What's the matter with them?
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:42 am

Basically, it's a matter of basically being in a mood to upset those who are basically intolerant of others use of the language. That's basically it.
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:43 am

Oh, I see. Well, that's alright then. Big grin
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:44 am

I always cringe when people say "ummm" between every word! Usually nobody notices it, but when I pay attention it drives me nuts. Like umm airliners.net umm is a umm wonderful place umm.

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Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:46 am

The German speakers will appreaciate this more than the rest, but, sorry to you non-German speakers, that´s just too funny to not post in this thread:

I know a guy who uses "im Grunde genommen" very often. Well, basically it´s the German equivalent of, err, basically, you know  Smile/happy/getting dizzy ?
Anyway, he uses it so often, it´s degenerated into a "grunnomm".

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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:47 am

Thanks for the warning. Why can´t you say more?
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:47 am

I didn't meen to upset, just to clarify. I wanted to be the first to jump on that, and I didn't have time to look up the "sarcastic" smiley! (I can never remember those) So, umm, basically, here it is, you know.  Big grin
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:49 am

I wasn't upset - the irony showed through in your post - don't worry! Big grin
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:54 am

That's a classic symptom of poor speaking quality. I actually have this problem myself. I tend to put 'ahhhh' in words. Its something people should work on if they want to succeed to areas that require articulate speaking. It's funny, but can be a real downfall.

BTW, bless your hearts on your replies  Big grin
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 12:58 am

Actually! My God, that's another one.

Let me get this straight:

You can actually, sort of, basically, you know, construct a sentence, kind of thing, where you um, you know, use twice as many, um, you know, words as you need to, sort of thing, you know?
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 2:28 am

There are alot of words people put in sentences, maybe because they find their language boring? At the moment the main phrases here are 'blatently' and 'innit'. These appear numerous times in the sentance of an average 'ard 'nut.

I noticed that Canadians use 'For sure' at the end of the sentence a hell of alot, hardly ever hear it spoken here!
 
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:10 am

"I'll be honest with you" ( or "ya" instead of "you" ) seems to pepper so many conversations as well. I've heard some people preface so much of what they say with this declaration that I wonder if they are BS-ing me whenever they _don't_ say it. -- ( Rant mode on ) And while I'm still on the soapbox, can we please retire the use of "sssweeeet!" as an adjcetive to describe something we like? Especially on the internet? Let this obnoxiously trendy late-90's word abdicate. Even the hackneyed "cool" sounds better. ( Rant mode off )
 
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 3:40 am

The word "problem" has been replaced with "issue". If anything goes wrong it is now an "issue", and, I'll be honest with you, basically, umm, I have a problem dealing with that issue, you know?
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 5:36 am

Ya know, since you said, ya know, not to say it, I will, ya know, NEED to say it, ya know, like, ya know, all day, ya know?
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 5:42 am

I think this is more of a problem in the US. All this like mall speak you know like whatever is even littering our airwaves and like it sucks.

Mind you me and my mates talk a lot of bullshit haha i bet an American would not be able to understand us!

Damn kids.
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 7:54 am

Here's where all those annoying words and phrases go.

http://www.lssu.edu/banished/compiled/compiled.html
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 8:36 am

"THIS PHRASE!!!!!!"

Hah hah. I said it.
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 10:05 am

You know, basically, that this guy is, you know, basically trying to get people to stop saying "you know," you know, the phrase that you know basically everybody says when they, you know, basically expect that you know what they know, you know, like when they are, you know, trying to get basically, well, you now, their point across. You know its basically like that.  Big thumbs up

You know, after writing basically so many times, it make the word look, well, you know, funny.  Big grin

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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Wed Mar 13, 2002 5:44 pm

You think "ya know" is bad!?

I'm so tired of hearing the word "anti-inflammatory" used recklessly!! Must have heard it 25 times today....just as a filler! Amazing!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 6:16 pm

Since we're discussing the corruption of the English language, can someone explain to me what is meant when someone starts a conversation with "Not for nothing but..." or "irregardless"?
 
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 9:45 pm

777kicksass,

I don't think this problem is confined to the US by any means. It appears it isn't even confined to the one language!

As others have pointed out, it is largely due to a poor vocabulary, using words as filler. I hardly think the US has the monopoly on poor education or stupidity.
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Wed Mar 13, 2002 11:13 pm

What thread?  Smile

You know, but i don't.

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Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:54 am

I absolutely HATE!!!!!!!!!!!! the phrase/word(s) (god knows what it is) "WAAAAZZAAAAAAAPP!".

And being in Australia there are a few other which should be cast out to sea. They include:

"MAAATE!"

"BLOKE"

and finally the worst of all: "G'DAY MAAATE!"

ewww, I absolutely detest such language. I feel dirty, must go now, wash hands.
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Fri Mar 15, 2002 7:20 am

How about ......

"How ya doin'?"

That commercial about "how ya doin'" is pretty funny though.........
 
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Fri Mar 15, 2002 7:46 am

Well obviously, the one word football managers use more than any other is obviously, well obviously and guys like Dave Bassett and obviously Terry Venables are obviously the worst offenders, although obviously Walter Smith wont be saying obviously as often as he used to.

Obviously, you should watch out for this, obviously when the footy programmes are on

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Fri Mar 15, 2002 7:52 am

The one phrase I get a kick out of when listening to sports broadcasters is ..... "Complete Package".

"Ya gotta admit, Bob, that that Derek Jeter is the complete package."
 
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Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:22 am

These patterns of overusing a certain phrase or word is known as a "speech tick". In my prior training profession, I would get up in front of a room to begin training and every other thing coming out of my mouth would be "o.k." It was helpful to have my manager there who provided me the very valuable feedback.

The best thing that ever happened was that I was videotaped while doing a training class. It's amazing how you can get rid of this type of thing if someone else points it out to you. It makes you much more cognizant and eventually your usage will go way down...
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Fri Mar 15, 2002 5:29 pm

In France, we have some people inserting "comment dire ?" everywhere. It means: "How could I say ?".

That's very irritating !
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Sat Mar 16, 2002 11:19 am

How about when you hear "like" in front of everything?
 
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RE: Do Not Say This Phrase!

Sat Mar 16, 2002 6:10 pm

People that really annoy me are the ones who use "and um" at the start of every sentence!
 
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Sun Mar 17, 2002 11:30 pm

All things being equal, I think this illustrates how the English language can be used, irregardless of context, as a paradigm of communication.

I think, on this issue, we should make sure we're all on the same page, and that our ducks are in a row. Then we can proactively proceed with leveraging our strengths against the weaknesses of the language.

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Mon Mar 18, 2002 5:52 am

I hate: "At the end of the day." Fuck off!
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Mon Mar 18, 2002 6:13 am

LH Mark provided us with ..........

>>All things being equal, I think this illustrates how the English language can be used, irregardless of context, as a paradigm of communication.

I think, on this issue, we should make sure we're all on the same page, and that our ducks are in a row. Then we can proactively proceed with leveraging our strengths against the weaknesses of the language.

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Mon Mar 18, 2002 6:43 am

you know and like are like bringing down the english language, you know?
 
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Mon Mar 18, 2002 6:51 am

You know, that was like such an interesting, like article, you know? That is like so, like cool that the you know, Air Force Officer like you know, gives like, $1000 a year to like a you know, scholarship like thing. You know, like, that is really like, you know, nice of him.

You know?

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