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Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:14 am

I've looked on the internet, but can't find the answer.

Why was the Queen Mum a queen? Wasn't her husband also King - meaning there was a King and Queen on the thrown simultaneously?

If this was the case, why is Philip not king? Why did they say Diana wouldn't have ever been Queen?

Did the rules change along the way - or what?

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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:31 am

She was a Queen, but not head of state. She was only Queen because her husband was - she married into the Royal Family. The same goes for Diana and probably for Philip. Hope that's good enough.

There might be more on:
http://www.royal.gov.uk

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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:40 am

She was only Queen because her husband was

Her husband was a Queen??!

I KNEW IT!.....Georgie spent WAY too much time at Pottery Barn!



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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:40 am

There's a rumour going around that the reason that the Queen has not abdicated in favour of making Prince Charles King is that she does not want to be known as the *king Mother.
 
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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:47 am

"Queen Consort" was her official title, as she was married to the monarch, but was not head of state in her own right. That being said, she wielded exrordinary power "behind the throne" giving the shy, brooding George VI the courage needed to lead the nation during the war.

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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:47 am

She was only Queen because her husband was King..you knew what I meant!

Saintsman: The rumour is that she will do it after her Golden Jubiliee Year. She probably will because her sister & mum have both died and she probably wants Charles to have a go at being the Monarch before it's handed over to William.

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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:51 am

It's largely traditional: Kings' wives are normally queens, but queens' husbands are normally princes. But I doubt this rule would apply if Charles married Camilla Parker-Bowles: public opinion, though more accepting of Camilla than in the past, is still cool toward her; and she doesn't seem to enjoy the spotlight.

Diana would have become Queen Diana if Charles had become King Charles III while they were still married.

 
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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:55 am

Slightly off-topic, but I really don't see what Charles finds so attractive about Camilla-she looks awful, and could never compare to Diana, who epitomised style, beauty, elegance-you name it.

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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 7:22 am

RT, the Queen Mum was queen but not monarch, there's a clear difference. If the monarch's a king, he MAY make his wife queen, but she would not have any power as monarch. If the monarch's a queen, she will most likely make her husband prince (or even duke), as she's the monarch, and would not elevate her spouse above her. Diana would have been queen, but only as consort to the king, i.e, wife to the monarch, Charles, a position similar to the Queen Mum's. Camilla can never marry Charles, muchless become queen if Charles becomes king, because as king, Charles also becomes sworn head of the Church of England, which forbids remarriage after divorce. I believe he will either have to remain a bachelor king, or if he really wants to marry her, abdicate the throne in favor of William.

Then again, Charles may never become King, as Queen Elizabeth II, even in her seventies, shows no sign of slowing down, and if her mother's any indication, Charles might very well die waiting for the throne.
 
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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 7:43 am

Capt.Picard,

I agree with you and think that she must be really good at *something* if you get what I mean  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 8:39 am

Perhaps he loves Camilla because she isn't a manipulating, selfish, childish, unintellectual, emotional cripple like Diana was?

And as for Queen Elizabeth II abdicating.. never gonna happen. She believes in the duty of the monarchy far too much for that.
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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 2:10 pm

The Guardian once described Camilla as "Sexy, in a knowing sort of way..."

BTW, when Charles and Camilla first met, her opening line was: "My great great grandmother was your great great grandfather's mistress. How about it?"

Given the Queen's mother lived to 101, I think the Queen has quite a few years left... She might even out-live her son.

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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 2:23 pm

Charles has been porking Camilla on & off for 30 years. They're f**k buddies.

Diana was nothing more than a blond uterus for the royal family. Had Diana lived, she would never have become Queen since she had already split with Charles. Charles would have become King.....but there would have been no Queen. Unless you count his brother Edward, but that's a different story!

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Side Note...

Fri Apr 05, 2002 3:15 pm

Charles' 2nd middle name is Arthur, it is rumored that he has his lovers call him Arthur in bed, and wants to be known as King Arthur I upon his ascension to the throne.
Could you imagine a less deserving creature to resurrect the "King Arthur" moniker? Gawd....
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RE: Why Was Queen Mum A Queen?

Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:37 pm

ROFL ADG  Big thumbs up

She must indeed go like a train!
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