ryanb741
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At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sat Apr 06, 2002 3:34 am


Suicide bomb victims family donate kidney to save Palestinian:

Suicide bomber Ibrahim Oude walked into the Palm Hotel dining room, looked around, smiled and detonated a bomb so powerful it tore cars apart on the street outside, killing 25 people and injuring over 100 more.

The last thing on his mind as he went on his mission nine days ago in the resort of Netanya was to bring Palestinians and Jews together.

But he didn't figure on the Vider family. Four generations of the clan, 13 people in all, had gathered at the pre-Passover feast. Sivan, 20, and her fiance Avi Beckerman, 26, were killed on the spot.

Sivan's cousin and sister were badly wounded and father, Zeev, 49, lingered in intensive care for five days until he died on Tuesday.

Non-religious but a deeply moral man, Zeev wanted to be an organ donor and so, when doctors said they needed a kidney to save a Palestinian woman's life, the family did not hesitate.

Zeev's son Nimrod, 25, who was in Poland at the time of the bombing said "there is a choice on who to give the donation to; we could have said no, only transplant a Jew. But to us, it was not important whether the organs went to Arabs or Jews.

"Our father always taught us that 'life is life' and that there is no difference between us. He taught us to be on the side of the sublime and to never judge anyone by their religion or their race"

As the decision was made, 50 miles away in Shuafat, on the outskirts of East Jerusalem, Palestinian Aisha abu Khadir, 54, was arriving for her regular session of dialysis. For four years she had refused to allow members of her family to donate one of their kidneys, fearing they would risk their own health.

Her son Said, 23, said "We got a call out of the blue from the Beilinson Hospital in Petah Tikvah, for my mother to go in straight away - so we rushed there and they gave her a new kidney on tuesday night. They didn't tell me anything about this Israeli guy. But after the success of the operation, the doctor took me aside and said, 'I want to tell you something very important - this kidney comes from one of the victims of the Natanya bombing'

"I was so shocked. I was really very sad because the civilians are paying the price of the fighting. But I was grateful that my mother would not have to suffer any more."

Nimrod Vider added, "I'm very proud of my father and of what he stood for. If his donation means that someone will pause to think for one second before the next act of terror, we will have done our part."



A very nice story indeed, and perhaps a reminder that no matter how difficult and seemingly impossible a situation appears, there is always hope where people retain kindness in their hearts and a will to forgive.


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sat Apr 06, 2002 3:35 am

Sorry, I should have pointed out that the article comes from taday's Evening Standard (London)
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sat Apr 06, 2002 4:50 am

Thank you for that.

TNNH
 
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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sat Apr 06, 2002 6:50 am

Very nice, good to hear.
 
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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:04 pm

It was a fanstastic story and I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings but did anyone else see this?

"there is a choice on who to give the donation to; we could have said no, only transplant a Jew.

I'm have absolute respect for this family who could see past the horror inflicted upon their family to show tolerance and love to fellow human.

As for his statment, is that true? Can you choose not to donate an organ to a person based upon their race or religion? Surely this cannot be true?




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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:49 pm

You don't have to donate any part of your body if you don't want to ADG. They need your permission to do so and the relatives reasons for denying a donation are their own.

Unless you are a long term guest at a facility run by the Chinese government. Then you don't have a choice and the PLA makes a few buck on the side from your donation.

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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sun Apr 07, 2002 6:32 am

I am so glad that people thought about others as persons, & not as arab. I hope that stories like that will happen more often.
To the israelis who did it, i got nothing to say but "col hacavod!!" (means in hebrow that thay nees to have a lot of respect).
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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sun Apr 07, 2002 9:19 am

I remember a story saying a Palestanian girl was in critical condition because of her sickness, and a Israeli doctor saved her life.

I guess this is a really warm, and touching story.
 
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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sun Apr 07, 2002 9:49 am

Donating your body parts is your private decision and I'd imagine you can donate them to whoever you want. I think in the US that privacy is left to the donor also.

No big deal. It was a beautiful story.

TNNH
 
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RE: At Last - A Nice Story From The Middle East

Sun Apr 07, 2002 10:35 am

No big deal. ???

It is a big deal. In fact it's one of the biggest deals. People should have a right to donate or not donate but who they donate to should be decided based upon need and nothing more.

To do otherwise allows personal bias to come into the fact and I have to say that any country that allows people to choose WHO they donate to cannot be respected by free thinking people.

Additionally, you cannot praise a doctor of one particular religion for saving a person of a different religion. Medicine should be held above religious beliefs. Doctors should NEVER pick and choose who they treat, they are trained to save lives not to play god. If they cannot do that they should reassess their career options.

When I read the attitudes of a few others I am so thankful I live in a country that isn't racked with racial hatred where anybody who turns up at a hospital will get exactly the same treatment whether they are white, black, christian, muslim, jew, cannibal etc.

We fly (at our expense) people from other countries into our country to give them whatever treatment we can, most of the time for FREE. The husband of the President of Indonesia (a country known for it's racial hatred of Australians) was flown to Perth recently to receive medical treatment that was unavailable to him in his own country! (that probably wasn't free though) He was treated with great respect irregardless of the tensions between the two countries. That is the nature of medical care, it shouldn't be conditional .. it should be a RIGHT.

In Australia people are encouraged to voluntarily donate their loved ones organs, this is a choice they are free to give. However, once given the organ donation is anonymous and no discussion can be entered into as to who gets the organs. This is as it should be.

This is not an attempt to minimise the original post, these people showed great courage and tolerance in their decisions and I could fully understand if they had chosen the other way given their circumstances. Wouldn't it be nice if there were more people like them in positions of power in the ME.



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