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How Does One Charge A Particle?

Wed Apr 10, 2002 5:31 am

Like if I wanted to give the ambient air a positive charge, do I spray it with ammonia and put it near a magnet perhaps?

How could it be done? Or can it be done?  Confused
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Wed Apr 10, 2002 11:22 am

The fact that it has valence electrons makes it "charged". That means it will try to fill its outermost electron level and become stable.

For instance- Na (sodium) and C(h)l(orine)
Sodium has one electron. the closest stable electron configurization is no electrons, so it has one more electron than it needs which means it has a +1 charge.
8 electrons is the most there can be in one layer, and chlorine has 7, so it has one empty spot and a -1 charge.
Na (+1) + Cl (-1)= NaCl (stable)
The electron from the sodium is shared with the chlorine so it will have 8 in its outer layer and the sodium will be empty.

Hope this helps
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Thu Apr 11, 2002 5:36 am

Thank you for clearing that part up, it seems that most elemental charge interactions are natural, but how about giving a charge to a compound, for example, that does not already have a charge, like CO2, O2, N2, etc.?

It seems that those compounds have already satisfied their valences and that it would require more energy to place additional charges on it. Is there a simple way to do that or am I missing something?
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:54 am

I asked only because I cannot figure out how the "Ionic Breeze" by Sharper Image works.

http://www.air-filter-purifiers.com/

Can anyone help me out? Anything would do.
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:12 pm

I feel stupid now. ......Even stupider now that I cant find the straight vertical line on my keyboard to make the confused face?????
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:17 pm

Ah Ha!  Confused  Confused  Confused
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:54 pm

It is even simpler to charge a particle.


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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:38 pm

Thanks L-188, maybe I'm not so dumb after all  Big thumbs up
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:00 pm

>>>How does one charge a particle?<<<

Well, standard practice dictates either bill him or request COD.
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:10 pm

Vulindlela - you have even less chance of doing this then:  Sleepy
 
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Lehpron

Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:25 am

I think it's hilarious that you posted this topic about the Ionic Breeze cuz I saw the informercial for it yesterday and then I saw this topic yesterday and I was thinking how it was a coincidence that I was wondering the same thing when I saw the commercial! Never bothered to open it until now, though  Smile

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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:21 am

To be accurate, you don't charage a particles. Different particles have different charges. You create charge by forming an imbalance in negative and positive particles.

Protons carry positive charge, and electrons carry negative charge. A surplus in electrons results in a negative charge. A lack of electrons (so a surplus of protons) results in a positive charge.

What that device probably does is positively charges the filter via an electric current. This positive charge extracts electrons (opposites attract) from the air passing through it, leaving the air with a defficiency of electrons, and hence, a positive charge.
 
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Mon Apr 15, 2002 5:26 am

 Sleepy  Sleepy  Sleepy HA! If I can find the line once then I can use it twice EGGD. NowI will never forget.
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RE: How Does One Charge A Particle?

Wed Apr 17, 2002 1:20 am

I first saw the commercials back in January, back then I was like "how the hell man?"

Well, I know that this device does what it does with less energy than a calculator within a distance of 2 inches, how the hell man? I tried looking up the technology they use, something called Zenion effect, on the US patent search and came up with this link:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=pall&s1=Zenion&OS=Zenion&RS=Zenion

It is interesting to note that it was recently invented, talk about a new product!
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