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Non US Residents- Do You Like Coming To The US?

Sat Apr 27, 2002 7:45 am

I was curious. For those of you non-US residents, do you like to or want to come to the US for vacation? If so, where do you like to or want to go?
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 7:58 am

I'd love to visit the US and maybe even move there permanently if i could get a good job there. I'd preferably go to Colorado for no obvious reason, just feels like a nice place.
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:05 am

Colorado is pretty nice. I've been there several times, but just to go skiing. The only complaint I have is that at least in the winter, it is so dry that you get shocked by static electricity everytime you touch something. I hate that.
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:12 am

I live in the UK, and go to the states almost every week, I love it there, I love its optimism, I love its support, I love the fact that people are interested in helping you reach your goals unlike the UK in where it seems to be the opposite. Optimism is the food of life

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:20 am

Optimism is the food of life

I agree with you on that one. It's the same here in Sweden, everyone (well not all) are pesimists that believe that everything is impossible to accomplish. I actually feel a little like an american in some senses sometimes. My views just differs very much from most swedes or scandinavians.
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:31 am

I love it when i'm in america. I've been there 7 or 8 times over the last few years mainly to visit my relatives in New York and Detroit. One thing i like about the US is the relaxed and easy going attitude of americans, there's no fuss and hassle, evryone just get's on with their lives.

New York is cool to hang out and go shopping, but it's too crowded for my liking, i prefer a quiter city like detroit. It's a beautiful city with clean suburbs.

To put it simply, if i ever have to leave england, i'd head for america straight away.

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:40 am

Another thing i like about the US was the roads, they are big and spacious unlike in the UK where they are so narrow with confusing road marking and mysterious traffic junctions.

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:44 am

I've never been to the USA before....

but since I'm a big city lover, there is a big chance I will visit New York, Chicago, LA and Miami (my 4 favorites) very soon!!  Big thumbs up
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 9:48 am

Love the USA! I think there was more friendliness and innocence there 20 years ago, but maybe that's the case with everywhere. Have also noticed that - hell, how do I say this nicely - the average weight of the population seems to have increased significantly over the years. There are now a lot more l-a-r-g-e Americans.
My favourite places are Washington DC, San Francisco, New York, New Orleans, Chicago, Denver, even Los Angeles, which has a character all of its own. Would love to get to Charleston and Savannah (supposed to be there now, but had to cancel - next time!!), and also Santa Fe and I guess see some of Texas.
The first time I took my wife to the USA, she said she was disappointed because it was just like the movies - she had expected it to be different. Since then she has been back a number of times, and now hardly wants to go anywhere else on vacation (except maybe Canada).
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 10:26 am

I've been to the USA 4 times and my fifth time will be just under 2 weeks, to California.

I love the theme parks, the culture, the hustle and bustle of New York, the serenity of Cape Cod..... the wide spectrum of people I get to meet. Rude New Yorkers. Pleasant people in the countryside. You just can't get this anywhere else.

Though one thing I can't stand about going there is the hours on end I've to spend travelling. It's usually 18.5 hours to the West Coast or 24 hours to the East coast on a same plane direct service with one stop.

Yes, I thoroughly enjoy my visits to the US and I usually feel more at home in English-speaking countries. though I'd feel more at home in Australia. I usually encounter at least one incident of racism when i'm there.

Things is, I'm ethnically half indian and half chinese, so I'm kinda dark skinned. As in, not as light-skinned as a pure Chinese, but yet not as dark-skinned as a pure Indian.

Since the vast majority of Americans can't tell the difference between middle easterns and Indians, (since I look kinda Indian) I expect to be racially profiled when I'm there. Since no one there (at least the security people) would know what the Singapore accent is like, or wonder what on earth the Singapore passport is, I'm wondering whether I should put on my best British accent, something which I can do quite well, actually!
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When I'm there, I know this thread will be gone in 2 weeks, but I'll post a trip report of my flight there, plus little details of what I did after the flight! (which probably might be just SLEEP but who knows?? )

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 10:30 am

>>New York is cool to hang out and go shopping, but it's too crowded for my liking, i prefer a quiter city like detroit. It's a beautiful city with clean suburbs.<<

Detroit is ok, but it has a horrible reputation in the USA (just try to walk by the downtown at night and ye will find out why)
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 11:25 am

LOT, im from Detroit...


The Downtown itself isnt bad, theyre really fixing it up and we've got some top notch entertainment/restaurants down there now.. The problem with Detroit is the residential areas of the city.. Theyre where things get scary and where the majority of crimes are committed... Downtown Detroit itself is very safe, thousands of people head down there daily to work (General Motors World Headquarters, Blue Cross Blue Shield MI, Compuware, Comerica Bank, etc). Even at night time Downtown is quite safe. There is nightlife in the city, especially in "Greektown" (the Greek quarter of the city), and "Foxtown" (the area around the Fox Theatre/Comerica Park/Hockeytown Cafe complexes). Where you never tread if youre a white person is the residential areas of the city.. Theyre dangerous.

The Suburbs are great... Birmingham, Troy, Novi, Northville, Plymouth, even Ann Arbor and Brighton, are all very clean and for the most part, upscale.
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 11:53 am

I love visiting the US and do so often. My next ambition is definitely Washington DC, museums etc but as yet none of my friends has moved there for me to stay with ...

Used to live in Houston/Galvaston for 2.5 years and more recently Ithaca/Syracuse New York for a year. I liked Texas except for the weather but did not have such a great time in NY state, more to do with the people I was around rather than the place but that is another story.

BTW I find American drivers the safest and most courteous in the world.
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 1:18 pm

Im going to kind of reverse this,

Im an American who's been itching a long time to go to abroad especially to the UK, Europe and Australia.

I've been to Canada, Mexico, and the Carribean several times but thats not really foriegn. Although Cancun, Toronto and the Virgin Islands are amazing places, I loved going to Jays games at the Sky Dome in Toronto (amazing stadium).

I was going to go to Europe last Summer but I met my now girlfriend and decided to spend the Summer with her instead, Im trying to bring her there either in January (when she graduates college) or next Summer.

Places I want to visit with my Girlfriend many times in the years ahead:

Ireland ,my Grandmother was Irish and she was the sweetest lady I've ever know Smile

Scotland: My Grand Father was Scottish and a avid Golfer, we used to play alot near his home in Florida. Golf is supposedly amazing in Scotland, but the one thing they lack that Florida courses have are the GATORS Smile.

The UK especially Manchester and ofcourse London,
being born in NY and raised in NJ all my life Im a big city kid. I imagine London and NY sharing similar big city attributes, there's something about travel between NY and London which seems so glamorous (atleast to me).

Paris the City of lights and Love, enough said.

Germany,as a Political Science/History major in College I would Love to visit Berlin and Check point Charlie, also the Bavarian Alps. October fest would be nice too!

Swiss and Austrian Alps.

Barcelona and Ibiza Spain.

All over Italy (my Dad's side of the family are Italian immigrants).

Belgium (chocolates Smile

Holland , get some good beer.

Greece, Athens and the Greek Islands

And finally Norway and Sweeden.

In Australia/New Zealand Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland, Christchurch, and Sufer's Paradise/ Great Barrier reef.

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 1:39 pm

My recommondations of places to visit for those visiting the US, in no particular order.

1.) Orlando Florida, there's something for everyone. And it's a must visit for anyone with kids, also nearby Cape Canavaral for Space Shuttle launches.

2.) Miami Florida (South Beach) for the club crowd, a little quieter but just as nice is nearby Ft.Lauderdale.

3.) My hometown NYC, if you like big cities you will love NYC.

4.) San Francisco California, and nearby Monterrey are probably the nicest (large) US cities I've vistied.

5.) LA is if you like that Hollywood stuff.

6.) Las Vegas, sin city.

7.) Washington D.C., designed by a Frenchman (L'Fant), it very much resembles Paris with it's street grid and Metro.

8.) Charleston South Carolina or Savanah Georgia for Southern culture and hospitality.


9.) The Rocky Mountain States ( Colorado, Wyoming, Montana).

10 .) Arizona and New Mexico, beautiful desert scenary and artists colonies.

11.) The Pacific NorthWest (Seattle and Portland), for the great outdoors.

12.) Boston and New England, America's revolutionary home.

13.) Im not a Canadian but I love Toronto, great city to visit.

14.) Finally for a far flung US adventure visit Hawaii or Alaska.
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 1:43 pm

This post is heartening.

It's good to see that you Euros and Oceanics percieve the good stuff! If anyone ever winds up in ROC, my doors are open, and my beer tab is bountiful!  Smile
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 2:54 pm

Guys,

I guess I have been lucky enought to visit the USA over nearly a 20 year period since the first time I visited with my mother when she took my sister and I to Disneyland when we were kids.

Every time I have been there I have met the most wonderful and entertaining / friendly people you could meet anywhere. (Having said that, through most of my travels around the world nearly everywhere I have been I've been lucky enough to meet nice friendly people.)

The USA has something to offer everyone, from plain vulgarity to absolute beauty, from disgusting ugly cities to the most beautiful and clean. The scale is incredible but so is the American peoples resolve.

There are many things I dislike about American society, but the good and great far outweigh the bad.

Major & Minor cities I have been too: (That spring to mind.)

Los Angeles
San Franciso
San Diego
Houston
Palm Springs
Las Vegas
Salt Lake City
New Orleans
Chicago
NYC
Boston
Philedephia
Atlanta
Orlando
Miami
D.C.
Phoenix
Portland

And countless other small towns and cities that are too numerous to name here like Santa Barbara, Provincetown etc etc.

Although the one quintesential Aussie experience for me was arriving in Boston Airport to pick up a rental car to drive to Niagara and through eastern Canada I had trouble at the Avis desk at UA. The kind girl behind the counter saw that I had arrived from Australia (this was 1990) and I was under 25 which was the legal age to drive a rental car out of the US and into Canada. The kind girl waived it for me and I was on my way. (Barely 20 and my partner of time 28 but had no drivers licence.)

We drove out of Boston after spending 4 days discovering that fantastic place up the turnpike and as far as Utica. It was here that quintesential Aussie experience happened, checked into the Best Western, I drove into the town centre to find a supermarket to get some beers and supplies. At the checkout of the supermarket the checkout girl asked to see my ID, which of course would have shown I was underage. Instead the girl looked at my passport and licence and said blushingly (and lound) "Oh your Australian!!", that sent the rest of the customers off in asking all manner of questions, invites and offers to dinner!

I had not experienced that in the USA as yet and perhaps because it was regional and perhaps a novelty it made me feel so good! We ended up staying in Utica for another 2 days just soaking it up with the locals.

It was such a fine privelage and I still correspond with a lovely couple who had my partner and I to dinner to this day.

Cheers,

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 3:08 pm

That's a hard offer to refuse LHMark! One of the reasons that Australians love the USA is that they are just so glad to get there after that 13 hour flight! And for most vacationers, the first stop is Disneyland or Disneyworld, so the scene is set from there. I've always thought the people have been really helpful and friendly. On my most recent visit, with all the enhanced security at airports, I was constantly showing my drivers licence for photo id. The West Australian licence is sort of cute (apart from my pic) because it has a picture of a black swan on it - the state emblem. So every conversation I had started off with what a cute licence I had and what a cute accent. It was a really nice icebreaker.
I also love your patriotism - all those flags, even more so since 9/11. Australians aren't really great flag-flyers, so it really stands out.
The other thing that maybe Americans don't quite appreciate is that, for "outsiders", everything has had such a great build-up in the movies and on TV. So many things and places that must be commmonplace to you, are a source of wonder to us, and almost like a homecoming. For you, the skyline, the statue of Liberty, etc., are there - for us they are something to dream about until we get that maybe once-in-a-lifetime chance to see them.
Damn, now I'm going to have to go down to the supermarket and buy a 6-pack of Bud and get all nostalgic!
Cheers
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RE: Non US Residents- Do You Like Coming To The US?

Sat Apr 27, 2002 4:48 pm

There is no place better than the USA!!! I have relatives in the Midwest and have been there 3 times since 1991.
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 5:42 pm

I have a wonderful time whenever I go to the USA. I have absolutely fallen in love with Washington and New Orleans and LA and NY are always nice, you just cant beat an NY Xmas.

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 6:03 pm

Hey, Mx5_boy, with your passport and my licence we could take the place by storm! Each time I have been to the USA, I meet people who have met few, if any Australians, and are really interested to learn more about the country and people. This intrigues me, as it seems that every Australian that I know has been over there at some time. Maybe most of the rest go to Disneyland/World and therefore when we go to other places, we get noticed more. Whatever the reason, it's great - they are really fine people, and most hospitable.
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 6:07 pm

It feels so great to see some people have such nice things to say about the US. We haven't seen this in a long while....I love you guys Big grin

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 6:09 pm

I have been to New York, Seattle, Miami, Kansas, Denver, Colorado and some more places. Really like the USA because it is so huge. Every state is almost a whole country! I think the best memory I have thinking about the USA is when we went to my parents friends a couple of years ago.(Americans they met in Groningen, Netherlands, about 30 years ago) They live in Kansas and they where probably one of the most fiendly, warm and great people I have ever met. We had a wondeful time over there. I also like the fact that there are a lot of people who live in the States, who have Dutch ancestors. The place I would like to live best in the States is definitely Seattle. We went there 2 years ago and it has everything you can imagine: planes, beautiful city, nice weather(we went there in the summer), beautiful nature, mountains and very important: very friendly and relaxed people.

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Sat Apr 27, 2002 6:18 pm

I think the nicest, most friendly people I've ever met was on vacation in the US.

I haven't travelled all that extensivley in the US, the major cities I can remember seeing include Boston, Philadeplhia, Washington, Pittsburgh, Norfolk and Seattle. Maybe when I get a car I can travel more.

I remember back to around 1995 when we were driving back to Toronto from Myrtle Beach, SC. The car got a flat tire on the interstate somewhere in NC, so we pulled off at the next exit into a small town. It appeared that most of the town was at church at the time, but after we pulled the car over and my father started walking towards a shop to use the phone, a lady opened her door and offered to help. Not only her, but three other people too. We were also invited in for coffee while waiting for a tow truck.
I'm sure that there are some places in Canada (maybe Newfoundland) where you would get such unconditional hospitality, but certainly nowhere in southern Ontario. It was so refreshing.

Other memorable times were meeting the same couple three times in three different locations, once in Sault Saint Marie, ON, the other time on Makinac Island, and once more too (I can't remember where). They were always willing to chat although it was a bit funny when they asked if there were two or three hundred thousand people in Toronto.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 6:42 pm

I've been to the USA three times in my whole life. The first time I was 2, so I can't remember a damn thing. The 2nd and 3rd times were fantastic. The USA really is a beautiful country, and as people have said previously, the USA has many things to offer. From Jerry Springer to Disneyworld. Amazing stuff.

I've been to:
-- New York (absolutely beautiful. I would love to live there one day since I love the city atmosphere)
-- Washington DC (another great city. It was quiet, and the buildings there are great)
-- DisneyWorld/Orlando (My mind goes off on a tangent when I'm in Disneyworld. Would love to go again)
-- Miami (I would love to go there now cos from what I saw, the place never sleeps. I was too young when I went to Miami to fully enjoy the city)
-- Kansas City (too young to remember a thing)
-- St Louis (ditto)
-- Atlanta (I made a puddle in the middle of ATL Hartsfield. Woo-hoo!! Big grin Too young to remember the rest of the city though)

There is just ONE thing I don't like about visiting the US. I don't know about other airports, but when I entered the US through MIA, the two lines were: US citizens and alien citizens. Now I know you probably don't mean to insult here, but I don't see what is wrong with "Non-US citizens". It's a bit weird being referred to as an "alien citizen".
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 8:40 pm

I went to the US twice.
The first time in 1996 I went to Los Angeles to study english for 1 month, the second time, I went to New York in 1998.
I liked them very much, but now I'd like to visit Australia and New Zealand.

I'd also like to visit Scandinavia and Iceland.
 
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Sat Apr 27, 2002 10:09 pm

I've been to downtown detroit lot's of times, there's nothing wrong actually, looked fine to me. But i love belle isle specially, and Sterling heights was a beautiful suburb, everything neat and well laid out.

My next aim is to visit the west coast, LA, San Francisco but mosy likely next city will probably be Dallas, my uncle lives there.

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Sun Apr 28, 2002 4:55 am

I've found the people very friendly, especially in the places where the tourists don't normally go and so foreigners are a bit of a novalty. As soon as I opened my mouth I always got the "oh I love your accent" which I'm sure a lot of poeple have experienced but it's a great ice breaker.

The one think I can't get used to though is the fondness for guns, for me probably the biggest negative thing you have. It's never spoilt my visits though.
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2002 4:59 am

It's nice to see that so many of you like my country!

Somone said something about Americans getting fatter and fatter. You are absolutely right! It's a big topic of concern nowadays about the fact that so many people are overweight. I'm happy I'm not though, and intend to keep myself healthy. Someone also said something about how nice it is that the roads are so big. They certainly are not big enough. Here in Atlanta, even on four or five lane highways, at rush hour nothing moves. There are just a lot of people. Atlanta is not the only city with that problem of highway congestion. The drivers are terrible in Atlanta. I like that in parts of Europe there is no real speed limit.

From my point of view, being an American citizen and resident, I love going to Europe! It's such a great place. I've been to London, Paris, Brussels, Brugge (spelling?), Antwerp, Athens, Kusadasi (that's in Turkey and actually in the Asian part, so that doesn't count as Europe), Rhodes, Mykonos, and Patmos. In five weeks I'll be going to Barcelona, Provence, and Paris and I can't wait. I have no complaint about Europe at all, just nice things to say. Of the places I haven't been, I'd love to visit the Czech Republic, Poland, Russia, Scandinavia, Switzerland (I have been in the Zurich airport, but that was all), Austria, Portugal, Spain, Germany, Ireland, and just about the whole rest of the continent. I want to see Australia, Asia, and South America badly too, plus parts of Africa (South Africa, Egypt, Kenya, Tanzania, Morroco, Tunisia, Seychelles, Mauritius). I can't until one day when I get to see all of that!
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2002 5:35 am

Rob,

I know u live in Detroit, im just saying it dosent have a very good reputation in the USA as a large city.....although it is damn better than 10 or 20 years ago
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2002 5:41 am

I've been to detroit enough to know what it's like and i didn't see anything negative at all. Why does it have a bad reputation? What is (was) wrong there?

Enlighten me someone

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Sun Apr 28, 2002 5:48 am

I love Miami, It is so nice, SOUTH BEACH RULLES! I could live there for the rest of my days!! I had such a great time there. I plan to go back this summer when its so hot its murder!!! I need heat, love it when its 38+C
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2002 7:27 am

Detroit had big-time racial issues back in the 60s that led to the destruction of property and caused many people to flee the suburbs. What was left was a "donut effect", nice suburbs but other than the Renaissance Centre and a few other places, a very dangerous place downtown with mostly boarded up buildings.

Detroit used to have one of the highest murder rates in the US, but it has long been surpassed by Baltimore. However, it really is on the rebound in the past 10 years, there are some great restaurants there that I go to in Detroit when I'm staying in Windsor.
 
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Sun Apr 28, 2002 8:14 am

thank you for that info CPDC10-30.

I heard about the racial issues regarding detroit but i didn't realise it was still effective today, maybe it's calmed down a little cos i really haven't seen any bad stuff there when i went.

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Sun Apr 28, 2002 11:59 am

Detroit is an absolutely beautiful town.

The people living near downtown (and all over the city) are warm and friendly and that beach on the Detroit River is to die for! The shopping opportunities in the city are simply magnificent.

Entertainment and fine dining can be found in several key areas of the city. Parkland and recreation is wholesome and bountiful. Gorgeous victorian and contemporary mansions and condos dot the landscape all over town. Cultural opportunities are the best thing outside of Dakar. Couple that with the decreasing crime rate and it simply becomes as world class as Singapore, London or Atlanta. There is basically no need to venture out into Detroit's boring cookie-cutter suburbs. Most are just too far out and don't offer that much (however, Pontiac, Ferndale, Highland Park, and Melvindale are notable exceptions, and must be seen to experience Detroit in its full flavor).

Finally, where on earth can you see Jews and TONS of Arabs living as harmoniously as they do in Detroit?

The city is also a short two minute drive across a bridge or tunnel to, literally, another country!.... Canada!

I think Detroit is the best-kept secret in America! You'll simply never forget it!



 
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Sun Apr 28, 2002 1:43 pm

757.....


Youve gotta be kidding.. Highland Park is worse than Detroit.. The city has been placed into recievership because it ran out of money. Pontiac... Not very nice.. Sure there's nightlife, but the residential areas are dangerous and dirty. Melvindale... The City boardering it, Allen Park, is much nicer (my mom lived there). Ferndale is OK, but not very exciting.. Oldies 104.3 WOMC is based there. There are actually shopping opportunities in Detroit? Perhaps Fairlane Town Center, which is a bit far from Downtown, or Northland Mall in Southfield. The most exciting thing that is in Detroit is the Grand Prix on Belle Isle, but that's most likely going away after this year (my dad's been to every one since they started). Windsor is much nicer, quieter, safer, and less congested.

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Arabs: East Dearborn
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RE: Non US Residents- Do You Like Coming To The US

Mon Apr 29, 2002 12:05 am

Gosh N312, where's your civic pride? Shouldn't you try to promote your hometown like people from other cities promote their's?

Even if you live in the suburbs, you (and all of the rest of your fellow suburbanites) are, for all intents and purposes, "Detroiters," since you're part of the "Detroit metropolitan area."

You should not talk so disparagingly about your hometown. Tell everyone to come and visit.
 
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RE: Non US Residents- Do You Like Coming To The US?

Mon Apr 29, 2002 12:08 am

As an Israeli, i love to visit in the US. I love the Northern-California zone. The US in a nice place to be for 2-3 weeks. After that i want home...
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Mon Apr 29, 2002 9:50 pm

I was in the USA after Princess Diana died (2 days after) and every american I spoke too (on hearing my english accent) offered a kind word and sympathy - very touching. I was flying from Miami to LAX on the day of the funeral and it was on the TV in the terminals - most people were watching and it was strange to see a busy place so quiet and sombre.

Must go back to Alaska - great scenery, great people and great planes.


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RE: Non US Residents- Do You Like Coming To The US?

Mon Apr 29, 2002 9:57 pm

Yes I think the US is a great place to visit, would I live there long term not likely. Only seen the Western part so far, California, Arizona, Washington State but hope to see more of it in my next holiday in October.
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Tue Apr 30, 2002 11:34 am

I have to reverse this one. I live in America and always want to leave. I really do love America but I dream of change. My dad is Australian so I have an Australian citizenship by descent. My plans are to move down there once I get enough money. Until then, if you visit the US and enjoy skiing, you should definatly go to the Rocky Mountains. Denver too. Happy travels
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Wed May 01, 2002 7:32 am

This is amazing! Its been a while since we've seen good words about the U.S.A. Makes me happy  Smile

Only one person has mentioned it, but don't forget Hawaii!! That is one of the most beautiful places in the nation. Wonderfully friendly people, delicious food, gorgeous girls  Innocent, beautiful island scenery, awesome beaches, the list goes on and on! I've been there once, and am absolutely dying to go back.

My favorite thing about the United States is the sheer diversity of nature that it has. My favorite has to be California. It has the lowest point and the highest point in the continental U.S., Death Valley and Mt. Whitney respectively. You have deserts, mountains, forests, national parks, lakes, the pacific ocean, farms, and big cities. I've heard that if California was its own country, it would have the seventh largest economy in the world. That's just amazing.

Thanks folks!
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Wed May 01, 2002 8:07 am

Have been a few times there and I will next week, on the way to GUM in LAX.
I don't like it very much, not only because of this, but I had once trouble with an Immigration Officer at DFW, I'm sure he has never been outside Texas and he thought I'm Mexican or something like this  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Wed May 01, 2002 8:10 am

I've had bad experiences with US immigration aswell at JFK several times. That was the only bad experience in the USA.

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Thu May 02, 2002 10:30 am

I wouldn't hesitate to empty my bank account and buy a ticket. Apart from those barking officers hanging around at the airports I like it there. Fav. places ... hard to say .. NYC, SF or one of those National Parks or Florida ...

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Thu May 02, 2002 9:36 pm

Hy guys, as my name is indicating, I´m from austria/europe.

I spent 7 vacations in the USA.
I have to say, I loved it.

Some things I saw:
NYC, Chicago, Washington DC, Annapolis,
Orlando (Disneyworld *great*, Seaworld etc...), Kennedy Space center, St. Petersburg (dali Museum, etc.), Marco Island, Miami, Naples, Florida Keys (Islamorada, Key west..), Everglades,
Mesa Verde, Monument Valley, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Glacier Natl. park, Kallispell (flathead lake), Las vegas, San Francisco, Annaheim, Disneyland, Juneau, Glacier Bay,

Some things I like to mention espescially:
New York is beautifull. The Skyscrapers, the central park, the island of manhattan istself, great museum (I´m in love with the metropolitan museum of art), fantastic restaurants, the view from the empire state building, and I will never forget a delicious brunch and a great lunch at the windows on the world. We will never forget the people who worked there and who made the stay for euch guest a pleasure.....
Chicago is wonderfull too. The skyline viewed from the lake - fantastic. The sears tower - great. I had a delightfull dinner at the signature room on the top of the hancock tower - yummy! And not to forget the steak houses, the museums, the aquarium etc.
Florida has something to offer for everyone. Disneyworld and Orlando as well as the beaches are well worth the trip from europe. I can recommend Florida to everyone.
I love the National Parks. I will never forget the tranquil beauty of the cliff dwellings of mesa verde in the sunset. Fantastic. Grand Canyon and Monument Valley are "must see" sites for everyone who loves landscapes.
Words can´t describe the beauty of Yellowstone.
And I loved the pure nature I saw in Glacier Park montana, we have mountains in Austria, but this is really different. The green of the woods, the blue of the lakes, thw white mountain goats - a paradise!
I did a whale watching tour in Alaska - that was really unbelieveable. Dozens of Humpback whales breaching all arround me. Orcas, minke whales, dolphins, harbor porpoises, bald eagles, grizzly bears, huge blue glaciers - the most exiting days of my life I spent in glacier bay. I also had a sightseeing / scenic flight with a DHC2 Beaver Floatplane over the Juneau Ice field - stunning!
I have so many great memories, and can´t tell of them all. It would need weeks.

Things I really like about the USA:

*friendly, helpfull, and optimistic people

*fantastic infrastructure for tourists (airlines, airports, car rentals, hotels, signs, museums, info points etc...)

*comfortable hotels and motels with great staff

*great restaurants, there is something for every taste - from grilled steaks at rustical steakhouse or grill to 21st century gourmet cuisine seafood, from deep dish pizza to grilled king crabs, from korean bulkogi to indian tandooris.........

*"relaxed" way of driving and traffic (if you are used to european rush hour traffic you will love to cruise along the going to the sun road with your rental car...). Every traveller should rent a car, it´s an experience. Yes my fellow european friends, it is possible to drive a car with a pulse lower than 180.

*fantastic landscapes, untouched by human beeings

*great and impressing architecture

*fantastic museums (the way the things are presented to the public is really fantastic. Speaking of dioramas, rebuilt ruins, mulitmedia shows etc...)

*magical themeparks (Magic Kingdom, Epoct, Disney MGM, Animal Kingdom, Seaworld, Universal, bush Gardens etc...)

So I have to say that I love the USA, and I will return to the USA for many more vacations.

 
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Sat May 04, 2002 1:50 am

USA is really cool lived there for 12 years, no complaints. BTW i lived in NY so thats not really comparable to states like the Dakotas but honestly, who would want to live there anyway!
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RE: Non US Residents- Do You Like Coming To The US?

Sat May 04, 2002 10:08 pm

KFRG,

You're comments are the stuff that cause flame wars, please dont call other people "stupid europeans" when you're being stupid yourself.

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