Matt D
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Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Wed May 01, 2002 11:32 pm

A question frequently asked of me is what my favorite baseball, basketball, or football teams are. When I give the standard reply, and that is NONE-meaning that I do not “follow” professional sports, I am always given a strange look of pity mixed with apprehension-as though I’m some kind of outcast or oddity from another world.



Why?

What is it about professional sports that so many people are so addicted to? Why is it that whenever I go to a restaurant or bar and see a bunch of people seated around the Big Screen TV, hooting, clapping, hollering, giving “high-5’s”, and so on, when I look at them and just shake my head and walk away disinterested, they look at me as though I were the one that was behaving oddly?

What am I missing here? It has always been my opinion that professional sports are the very epitome of arrogance, waste, and utter pointlessness. Despite the amount of money involved in them through merchandising, advertising, and salaries, along with the fact that they don’t actually DO anything (they do not provide any goods or services, other than fodder for men in their 20’s through 40’s to drink beer and make asses out of themselves in a public place.).

It seems as though people that are obsessed with pro sports are suffering from some kind of identity and/or insecurity complex. Perhaps they are living in denial of something and trying to live vicariously through the sports figures. Judging from the way I’ve seen guys yelling “Run!!! Run!!! Run!!!” or whatever at the TV screen, they seem to actually believe that they will be heard. By embracing the logos of their favorite team(s) in the clothes that they wear and the bumper stickers on their cars, it gives them a group to identify with. It’s a niche. “Hey, look at me! I’m a Lakers fan….I painted their logo across the back window of my car”. Perhaps it's a simple conformity issue. As we all know, even if we don't realize or admit, the good ol' USA-despite it's claims to be full of unique individuals, is really by and large comprised of blind conformists. I guess most people fear being labelled an outcast or 'wierdo' by not being into sports, so they get into it simply 'because everybody else is'.

Try telling a Dallas Cowboys fan that you think the Cowboys are a bad team, or that you don’t like them. They take it very personally. I’ve seen actual fistfights come out of such comments. Why? Does your diehard Yankees fan actually believe that because you are rooting for them, that that will make them win? Do you think that the Dodgers’ general manager actually cares that you wear a Dodgers jacket that you bought for $49.95 at your local sporting goods store?

I couldn’t care less about who wins the World Series or the Super Bowl.

I couldn’t even tell you who won last year, or for that matter, who PLAYED last year.

Yet as far as I know, life is just fine for me. Armageddon hasn’t come because I missed watching the Playoffs.

So what am I missing? What’s the big deal?

Somebody please enlighten me.
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Wed May 01, 2002 11:35 pm

For one, it gives people things to do other than wallow in self-pity.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Wed May 01, 2002 11:52 pm

I think the Yanks and Mets won last night, for those who are interested.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 12:36 am

Sports are an awesome thing. I don't really get into watching them as much as most people do. I enjoy playing them. Only sport I like watching is hockey. Because hockey is my life. I've ben playing it since I was little. And hopefully will keep playing it a long time from now.

Why? Does your diehard Yankees fan actually believe that because you are rooting for them, that that will make them win?

Actually...from my experiences...when there are a lot of people at my hockey games cheering for our team, we would always get really pumped up and most of the time win. There is nothing in my opinion that compares to walking out of the locker room to see a whole bunch of people who are there to see you play. Though I do agree that there is much more money involved with pro sports than there should be, there are quite a few people who if they got there, would'nt let that bother them (or at least I wouldent). I wonder what it is that makes us like one sport but not like another. My first thought would be family...and how you were brought up, but my dad likes football and basketball, but I dont really like either. Kinda wierd...oh well. To each his own.

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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 12:42 am

I'm not particularly interested in sports myself. While there are other possibilities, my guess is that most sports fanatics are that way because it allows them to sound authoritative when expressing their opinions.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 1:55 am

To be interested in sports and watch it, is very old. Already the old Greeks had games with many spectators. The Romans had a saying: "Give the people bred and games". This means when they have enough to eat and games to watch then they are satisfied.
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:27 am

Matt, for once I totally agree with everything you've said. Smile
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:31 am

Nowhere in the USA is there a more unique place than a ballpark or stadium.

The comaradirie(sp?) that you feel with 80,000 other people is something else. It's a chance to put your jobs on the back burner and act like a kid again.

Who wouldn't want to be the player on the field? We all dreamed of playing in Yankee Stadium in game 7 of the World Series, or throwing the winning touchdown pass in the Super Bowl. But if you can't be that prson on the field, why not be that person in the stands?
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:37 am

I'm not into sports. I understand what Matt means about going to a bar and seeing all these sports fans look at you like your abnormal. I don't have anything against sports, it just isn't my bag. But there are a few things I don't understand.

1. Why are the (lakers, clippers, broncos, rangers) your favorite team? What attracts you to a team? What makes them special? Is it the whole " I live in Boston (or any other city) so therefore I am obligated to root for the Red Sox" thing or is there more to it than that.

2. Why do fans act like they are on the team? Example: The Raiders win a game and one fan asks another fan who won and the answer is "We did!"

 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:44 am

Matt D- People could say the same thing about you and ariplanes: "What a waste of time to be interested in something that just carries people, what's fun about that? At least sports are meant ot be entertaining, airliners aern't."

Don't take this personally, but this is a pointless disscussion. You can use your arguement for any type of hobby on the planet: Why would anyone waste time with anything that doesn't make you money and isn't productive?

If you want to talk about people taking something personally, just read any topic that even just MENTIONS both Airbus and Boeing. The page views for those kind of topics are the highest in the General Aviation forum. It's just as ridicuous as someone saying their team sucks and they take it personally.

For the record, I'm just a casual sports fan, and I try to follow the standings and my teams. Go Braves, Falcons, Hawks, Thrashers and Yellow Jackets!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:46 am

I like watching some sports for fun (hockey mostly) but I don't get too into it.

Alot of people takes sports way too seriously, especially soccer fans. I mean a player makes a mistake and gets shot because of it? Give me a break, it's just a GAME.

Salaries are ridculous too, especially baseball players. Scratch your balls half your life and get paid millions. While others who risk their lives everyday for others get paid peanuts. There's something not right with that.
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:49 am

I like basketball and most of Lithuanians likes it, it's like cult here (we have three bronzes in a row from Barcelona, Atlanta and Sydney, so, we won bronze in every olympics since independence and if you count that there are only 3 million Lithuanians this is amazing. We also lost to dream team only by 2 points in Sydney semi-finals). So, this is why I like basketball:
1.It is fun to watch and support your team
2.It is good because you always have something to talk about even with completely unknown person
3.It is something to bright up a life, like most of hobbies are
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:50 am

Russianplnelvr- Why do I like all the Atlanta teams? It's just local pride. I love Atlanta and all the things about it (except the suburbs, but I won't go there), and I want the ATL to be a succesful city (which it is), so I love our sports teams as well.

And I forogt one other team: the Brazilian soccer team!!
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:53 am

I agree Matt.
It is such an artificial event. People are shallow and don't want to waste time finding something that is of interest to them because they don't want to seem like an outcast. It's rather sad.
When I go in to a bar or even the break room and I am looking for a newspaper, it's always a woman that stereotypes me and says, "Are you looking for the sports section?"
They are almost shocked when I say, "No I want the FrontPage, local news or business sections."

Our company has a section at the new PacBell Park. That's where the San Francisco Giants play. I've been invited to just about every game the company has a 'social' at the game. I've never gone to a single game.
It's interesting how suddenly everyone in the office suddenly becomes Giants fans when there are free tickets from the company. People show up to work in Orange & Black to show their support.

Getting excited over athletes is like getting excited over Bill Gates or Gordon Bethune. It's just a business!
Sports are another way for people to spend money, buy a big screen TV and feed the predatory capitalist machine..... Pissed (Never mind, I will not use this thread to push my leftist agenda)  Laugh out loud


About those Dallas Cowboys.
I have never seen a more ruthless barbaric group of fans ever. Did you know a man accidentally killed his 3-year-old son by picking him up and throwing him against the wall during a Cowboys game? He said he was crying too much during the game.
I remember flying Continental and having a layover in Houston. I flirting with this lady at the bar and we were having a good conversation. She said that her and her boyfriend at the time who was from New York was in Dallas on a business trip. He went to a sports bar to watch the game and have a few drinks. Well he wore a NY Giants cap and was routing for the giants. She told me they beat him up so bad that he needed 12 stitches.
I knew a guy who had his car set on fire because he had a 49ers bumper sticker on his Chevy while visiting Dallas.

I can also remember school kids getting beat up and even killed over shoes and jackets of pro sports teams.

My goodness, it's just a f**king game!
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 2:55 am

1. Why are the (lakers, clippers, broncos, rangers) your favorite team? What attracts you to a team? What makes them special? Is it the whole " I live in Boston (or any other city) so therefore I am obligated to root for the Red Sox" thing or is there more to it than that.

The home team is the one you grow up with. You see them the most because of tv contracts. You hear about them on the radio and on the news the most because they're local. You see people around you wearing their jerseys, hats, etc. Most likely it's your parents' (father's) favorite team, too. It gives you a sense of identity - kind of like church, but without all the religious bs. A source or pride... the list goes on... It's just natural to root for the home team.

But there are also certain players that can attract you to another team. I'm sure the Lakers are the "in" team now among young bandwagon fans because they have Kobe and Shaq. It used to be Jordan or Barkley that the kids followed around. Same with McGwire a few years ago in baseball. The all-american white home-run record holder. What a story... everyone loves him... In 5 years it will be another team. But this is usually in addition to the home team. For example, my favorite baseball team is the Mets, but I also like the Cubs because Mark Grace was my favorite player growing up. Even though he hasn't been on the Cubs in years, I still like the team. (Just not as much as I used to)


2. Why do fans act like they are on the team? Example: The Raiders win a game and one fan asks another fan who won and the answer is "We did!"


This is just plain dumb. I can't stand people who do this.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:02 am

Superfly-

>>I can also remember school kids getting beat up and even killed over shoes and jackets of pro sports teams.<<

This had less to do with sports and more with gangs killing over Raiders jackets in the early '90s.




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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:02 am

Mcringring,
Thanks for clearing that up for me!
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:04 am

I have to say, the first thing that struck me when I read your post was..... hellooooo!? What do you think you're doing on a web forum posting a topic like this in a forum dedicated to a hobby - aviation. As Hartsfieldboy said... you could say that about anything in life. I'm sure my buddies on the Aston Villa Football Club discussion forum aren't discussing a topic called "Aviation: Who cares?" cos that would be pointless.

Fans of professional sports probably think that being into aeroplanes and spending hours on a forum discussing utter bollocks is sad, and a waste of time.
You say you couldn't care less who wins the super bowl or whatever... they probably don't give two hoots whether Airbus or Boeing win that £10bn order from British Airways and the like. People think a lot of people take sports too seriously. Just take a look at some of the whining and whinging and pointless arguments that have carried on here over the last couple of weeks, from members taking this supposedly fun discussion forum waaaay too seriously.

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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:08 am

People are shallow and don't want to waste time finding something that is of interest to them because they don't want to seem like an outcast.

I don't get it...

So it's impossible for someone to be genuinely interested in sports? Everyone who watches or likes sports is too lazy to find something worthy of Superfly's approval as an interest? Only people who don't care for sports are truly individual and not lazy?

Anyway, care to enlighten us with some of your "worthwhile" interests? (there I go again... lazy sports fan doesn't want to find anything on his own...) Until then, I'll be reading the sports pages AND the rest of the paper.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:17 am

Mcringring:
Would you feel better if I had said 'some people'?
Please don't take this so personal.
I know that there are some diehard fans that are true fans.
And no, it dosen't have to have my approval.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:19 am

I don't know about the USA but, thank god football is popular in the UK and europe, othewise we'd have bored 15 year old kids terrorising neighbourhoods and committing petty crime cos they got nothing to do.

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Thu May 02, 2002 3:22 am

BTW, the only team the matters is DA BEARS ! ! !  Laugh out loud
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Thu May 02, 2002 3:30 am

"Some people" would have been more appropriate, but it's best to avoid generalizations altogether, would you not say?

I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this...

OK

Then you really shouldn't call people's interests "sad." If you'd like to share some of your interests, I will gladly pass judgement on them without understanding why you like them.


Anyway, I can't stand the Cowboys, either. But Da Bears??? I lost all respect for that team after the Super Bowl Shuffle!


Arsenal@LHR: And instead you've got 30 year old men terrorizing other fans and players and committing serious crimes in the stadium. Big grin
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Thu May 02, 2002 3:37 am

Mcringring:
The Bears remark was to be a joke.
I lost respect for the Bears after that too.
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Thu May 02, 2002 3:40 am

The ONLY thing good about the Bears was the Super Bowl Shuffle.
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:42 am

Airplanes and sports. The most fun I can have with my pants on. If I'm not hurting you doing it, don't worry about my hobbies. The Cleveland Browns will win the 2003 Super Bowl and you heard it here first.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 3:43 am

Da Bills rule! ! ! ! ! ! ! !  Smile
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Thu May 02, 2002 3:44 am

If there was a smiley with the word 'joke' flying over Superfly's head, I'd insert it here.
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Thu May 02, 2002 3:48 am

He, what's wrong with the Bills? Big grin
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Thu May 02, 2002 3:51 am

The only good thing about the Bills is Scott Norwood.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 4:28 am

Wow, I actually with Matt D for once.

Who cares who wins. It makes no difference in my life.

Racing in the worst...a bunch of cars just driving around an oval, over and over and over again.

 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 4:47 am

I've never met anyone that pretends to be a sports fans so they aren't viewed as an outcast. Either people like pro sports or they don't (just like any form of entertainment). The people I know that don't like sports are not shy about expressing this.
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Matt D
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 4:57 am

As I put on my asbestos jacket, let me say that the only sports event that would be of any interest to me would be the quadrapalegic 400 yard dash.....as one of the contestants lurches forward, falls out of the wheelchair....and lands flat on his or her face.

I'm not saying that a scenario like that would be funny. I certainly don't wish that on anybody. And I'm not intentionally poking fun at anyone who's crippled.


Nevertheless, the above scenario WOULD be something different. And everyone would definitely watch. Kind of like how when everyone wants to see the fiery Nascar wreck over and over. They are not being fatalistic or morbid, nor are they wishing harm on the occupant(s). It's just a human desire to watch things like that over and over.

And yes, I agree that car racing is little more than a glorified human hamster wheel.

But, to each his own.
 
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Thu May 02, 2002 5:50 am

Sports are fine and fun to watch once in a while, but I don't get some of these die-hard sports freaks who bring their hobby too far and make it their life.
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 5:58 am

Matt- you are quite right.

And no self-respecting Dallasite likes the Cowboys any more.

With that all said-

Go Mavs!
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 6:10 am

LOL! Mcringing, i see the funny side but seriously, that's a myth that soccer fans are violent and go to games cause fights. Some do, but it's very rare and it's perfectly safe to go and watch a game of soccer, well, at least in england it is.

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Thu May 02, 2002 7:06 am

I love sports. its how awsome the people who play are, there the best in the world. I love hockey, football, and boxing. I like the steelers because they have a good coach, cool colors, and are good. Redwings because I live in michigan and they are great(another stanley cup to add this year.  Wink/being sarcastic )and my fav boxer is Lennox Lewis because his style is awsome and he fights as smooth as silk
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Thu May 02, 2002 7:34 am

Sports are one of the first entertainment that was made.
From Ancient greece where they played ancient games that have evolved into the present ones.

I'm not a big fan of sports either, but I don't care.
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Thu May 02, 2002 7:38 am

I could care less about them myself....each to his own.
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 7:42 am

Pro Sports rule! It's awesome to watch them! Sports have always been fun to watch, and you get attached to a team after a while. NOW IF YOU EXCUSE ME, I'm going to the Twins vs. Devil Rays game! (SERIOUSLY. I'm really going!)

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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 10:35 am

I couldn't agree with you more MattD. I can't possibly care less about them, except for an occasional baseball game ( useta' to be a big baseball fan ). Overexposure of them is what turns me off, not so much the sport itself. Another thing that gets me is that most of the really rabid fans ( especially football ) have little concern for anything else but...and then yammer on and on about the politics behind it ( as opposed to commenting on an actual game or whatever ) as though analyzing it will lend it some sort of "gravitas".
 
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 10:46 am

Actually, I also hate professional sports. Hockey? Football? Baseball? Big yawn here. Golf on TV? I'd rather watch paint dry.

I realize I'm in a small minority particularly among males. I'm a contrarian by nature I guess. And my masculinity is easily secure enough for me to avoid the sports/jocktalk nonsense I hear at work every day without feeling less of a man.

To each his own!

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Thu May 02, 2002 7:14 pm

I don't care much for pro basketball but I feel obligated to follow the Blazers since I live in the Portland area. When I was in high school, I was never into sports, so I followed hockey just out of spite. Then I studied the history of the Stanley Cup and it became a religion to me. I have been behind the Canucks for 15 years now (WE WAS ROBBED!) and will never back down. That and airliners are the only things that I am really passionate about. I don't know why, but without those two things, Sebastian would be no one special.
Okay, I would, but you get my point......
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RE: Professional Sports: Who Cares?

Thu May 02, 2002 10:41 pm

I am in 100% agreement with the poster.

I love playing soocer and I am so glad the World CUp comes around every 4 years and not more. I mean, I just don't understand how people can waste so much time in their lives following a season.

I couldn't be bothered. You're telling me that the time and money I lose by not working 3 hours, just to watch 2 hours of sports a night, is worth it?

.. Reading the stats of some punk who couldn't care less about you while you take time away from your life to follow his every movement. What's the point?

I'd rather grab a bagged lunch from the Deli and watch a pick up game of soccer in Queens or Central Park (which is something I have done in the past).

You get out, get some air and relax and watch them play.

Don't get me wrong though. Everyone has their thing.

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