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Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Thu May 09, 2002 11:23 pm

I have just been told by a friend in Russia that a tragedy has occurred Kapiisk (Dagestan).

What makes me sick, even more so, is that today, 9th May, is Victory Day in Russia (and most other ex-Soviet Republics). Victory Day is the Russian equivalent of our Anzac Day, when the country reflects and pays their respects to their countrymen who lost their lives in World War II. (For info: the Soviet Union lost more of its countrymen, woman and children than any other nation...over 27 million).

And what makes me most sick, is that this bomb blast, which has so far claimed 20 lives (and over 100 injured), occurred right in amongst a parade of veterans the town. Veterans, childrens and musicians are amongst the innocent victims.

As yet no-one has declared responsibility, but it is most likely (without jumping to conclusions) that it could be either Chechen terrorists or Dagestani separatists.

So it seems that what is already a very somber day for the Russians is now going to also remembered as a day of tragedy.

But to my Russian friends, some of whom do read these forums, I send my condolences.

For those of you who want to read more (in English) here is the link:

http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/05/09/28457.html

 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Thu May 09, 2002 11:33 pm

What about communist hardliners? Don't forget that when there were those mysterious explosions in Moscow, initial reports of Chechen terrorists were rapidly replaced by speculation about the ultranationalists and military hard-liners trying to create a climate of fear - from which they could strike hard at those they opposed.

Suspiciously like Israel, in fact!  Big grin
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Thu May 09, 2002 11:37 pm

SAS23

Keep your idiotic Israeli bullshit off this thread. It has NO place, so stop trying to turn everything into something which has no place!!!

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Latest reports state 12 children, 15 servicemen and 2 civilians are dead; plus 100+ injured
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Thu May 09, 2002 11:39 pm

Jesus Christ, SAS, can't you EVER not bring up Israel? You're obsessed with them!! Give it a rest.

When I first read Avitsiya.ru's headline, my first thought was that it possibly could be the Russian mafia, but I think Avitsiya's first hunch may be correct.

Condolences to all who suffered in this newest insanity.
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Thu May 09, 2002 11:40 pm

If it were separatists rebels, Avitsiya.ru, there could be some hell to pay, wouldn't you agree?
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Thu May 09, 2002 11:47 pm

SAS23, Shut up.

I hope Russia strikes back and kills the TERRORISTS. This is not acceptable, especially for a super power. Like I said earlier on, who would have thought one day Moscow would have to put up with this BS? USSR was such a strong world power!

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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Thu May 09, 2002 11:48 pm

What a terrible act of barbarism. Attacking veterans and kids is just the lowest thing to do. My sympathies to the families  Sad
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 1:05 am

Maybe a tragic reminder that Russia is also fighting 12th century religious zealots, and has been for years.
Also it reminds me of the IRA bomb at a Rememberance parade in 1987 in Northern Ireland, which killed 11 civillians.
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 1:11 am

Thats sick, Some people have absolutely no heart or shame or respect.

I can't believe that ANYONE could do such a thing, its just unbelievable.

My condolences to all families who have lost someone, this is a terrible time for all  Sad
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 1:22 am

Marco

I don't believe in the taking of lives of any human being, whether they been innocent civilians by terrorists, or terrorists by governments. But this doesn't mean that I don't believe that the Russian government should find those responsible and punish them severely.

GDB

What the IRA did in 1987 did not win them any new supporters, and I don't believe that those responsible for this bombing in Dagestan have either. What they seem to forget is that it is more than likely that many of their "own people" were killed during World War II, either as soldiers on the frontline, or as innocent civilians, and Victory Day is entirely a day of rememberance for ALL Russian people; and by Russian people, I mean ALL people who live in the current borders of the Russian Federations; this includes Chechens, Dagestanis and other minorities with qualms against Russian (Moscow) rule.

Alpha 1

Who is responsible?

Who knows? My gut would say either Chechen rebels, or Dagestani separatists (who are aligned somewhat with Chechen rebels).

Hell to pay?

Who knows? I only hope that the Russian government is able to find those responsible and bring them to the courts to be charged and tried.

I wouldn't personally want there to be "hell to pay" so to speak. The situation exists in Chechnya at the moment in which Russia is fighting a civil war with Chechen rebels (some of who are terrorists), and it is a war which the Russian people themselves would rather not have to fight; preferring dialogue and negotiations; just the Chechen side seem somewhat cold towards any peaceful solutions. I just hope that Russia takes the same "peaceful" road to any conflict which may arise in Dagestan in the future. It must be said however, that this type of terrorist activity is nothing new to the people of Dagestan (it doesn't help that the republic shares a border with Chechnya).

SAS23

If you want to provide anything of USE to this thread, please do so. You could start with some facts to back up your assertions that communist hardliners are responsible for the "mysterious" bombings in Moscow, which are still widely regarded by the Russian authorities and public, to be the responsibility of Chechen separatists/rebels/terrorists.
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 1:22 am

Thats sick, Some people have absolutely no heart or shame or respect.

Well sais, yes. To kill innocent people, men, women, children, off-duty soldiers ; by dozens, by hundreds, or by thousands... The world shouldn't get "accustomed" and begin to simply passively accept that kind of barbarism.



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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 1:29 am

This is really messed up... I hope they get these guys.

Not sure if I agree with Putin's words about the whole Nazi thing... but I guess he's under a lot of pressure right now.

President Vladimir Putin described the attackers as "scum" who should be treated like Nazis.

He blamed the attack on "terrorists," the usual Kremlin term to describe separatist rebels in Chechnya, which borders the impoverished province of Dagestan where the attack took place.

"This crime was carried out by scum who hold nothing sacred," a solemn Putin told a Kremlin reception after the main parade in Moscow's Red Square to mark the defeat of Nazi Germany 57 years ago.

"We have every right to treat them as Nazis, whose sole aim was to spread death, sow fear and to murder," he said. The audience observed a minute of silence.


http://www.reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=topnews&StoryID=938726
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 1:55 am

Jesus Christ SAS! Can't you for once, just condone the action, cant you just once accept the fact that something terrible has happened. Can't you just friggin once not bring up Israel or criticize Israel!

The winking smiley face was so out of place, it made me sick to the stomach. You are the most uncompassionate person I've ever met. Don't give a damn about anything in the world except your own pride and spreading your hateful crap. All behind the safety of your computer screen.

What happened today in Russia was a terrible, terrible tragedy (32 dead, 12 of them children). But to me its even worse when I see somebody respond to it like this, showing they don't care about it or try to manipulate the situation to their own liking. Just disgusting.

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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 2:08 am

The people who did this are the lowest of the low in society, there's no room for them. I hope Pres.Putin does something about this, it can't go unheard of without punishing the perpetraters.

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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 3:08 am

I don't believe in the taking of lives of any human being, whether they been innocent civilians by terrorists, or terrorists by governments. But this doesn't mean that I don't believe that the Russian government should find those responsible and punish them severely.

True I'm against violence as well, but what's the solution in this case? If these terrorists are not stopped, they will continue to spread their mentality, and this will only aggravate the situation. They have to stopped one way or the other.

Killing is such a hard thing to do...I don't know how these terrorists do it...

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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 4:40 am

"What they seem to forget is that it is more than likely that many of their "own people" were killed during World War II, either as soldiers on the frontline, or as innocent civilians,"

Or in locked, overcrowded freight trains heading for Siberia...

May all the victims rest in peace.  Sad

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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 5:06 am

Unfortunately, this tragedy is one of a pattern that will grow and grow.....people from a culture with no restraint taking another culture's distaste for something and making it its' single biggest weakness.

It's ironic that I send condolences to those present hailing from a nation that for decades pointed nuclear missiles at me. It's becoming almost laughably nostalgic to see how the Cold War was a mere game, with rules, decorum, dos and donts. True the main event branched off into some ugly sideshows (Vietnam, Afghanistan in the 80s), but in the end this conflict was almost gentlemanly compared to the deliberate and celebrated murder of children and old people as legitimate military targets.

I worry what will happen first....they exploit our weaknesses till the end? Or we discard our weaknesses...and become them?
 
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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 6:11 am

I offer my sympathy to the family and friends of the victims of this bombing.



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RE: Bomb Blast In Russia: 20 Killed, 100 Injured

Fri May 10, 2002 8:22 am

like Israel, in fact!

He's right though! An attrocity of scum Islamic Terrorists murdering innocent civilians as they attempt to wage war on the world.

Russia, India, Israel, and the US, fighting and dieing against Islamic extremist nihilism.

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