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England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Wed May 22, 2002 11:21 pm

It looks as if England will be lucky to have any midfield players at all by the start of the World Cup. It now appears that Danny Murphy will miss out as well:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/england/newsid_2001000/2001888.stm

So already we have Steven Gerrard out, Jamie Carragher out, David Beckham doubtful, Nicky Butt doubtful, Kieron Dyer very doubtful (plus Gary Neville out), and now this.

At this rate we'll be calling up Carlton Palmer again....
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Wed May 22, 2002 11:58 pm

Why not me...I got converted from being centre-forward in 3rd year Primary School (was no good) to centre-half in 4th year Primary School (was equally no good). Don't mind having a go in midfield. Hence, I'm versatile and useless leading me to suggest that I am likely to be as good as Carlton "Brilliant Player & Manager" Palmer.

Do you think Trevor Sinclair will now do a U-turn and rejoin the party?

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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 12:04 am

I reckon I have a good chance too. OK, so I played as goalkeeper, but Peter Schmeichel and Fabien Barthez are well known for their forays out of the box, so why not?

I expect Sinclair will be called back - and would also have a chance of playing centrally which he apparently prefers. After that, we go to the under 21's and David Dunn would probably be the first choice. In any case, the average age of the England team means that you have to get permission from their play school anyway, so what's another babe in the party?

I'm just waiting for Owen Hargreaves and Joe Cole to slip over in the changing room and our misery will be complete. It's a bit like Beckham's party before they left - weren't you just praying that no idiot would step on his foot?
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 12:23 am

Mmmm....sounds like England is a one man team :-o
Beck-ham.

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Thu May 23, 2002 12:34 am

An outrageous assertion Graham/Kirkie. How can England be a one man team when the one man you refer to is crocked already?  Big grin

Mind you, this could be the signal for a return to long ball play! Since we won't have anyone in the middle of the park anyway...

All we then need is Sheringham to win us a few free kicks (bring back Shearer for that role) and then wheel on Beckham to take them. I feel a plan forming...
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 12:48 am

Who is Englands goalkeeper?
Seaman?

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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 12:56 am

Indeed he is. At least for the moment. He'll probably catch his pony tail in a revolving door before the first game. Not that I think we're cursed or anything...I mean why would I? We get shoved into the hardest group by a mile, then half the team (and the best half at that) suffer from freak injuries.
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Thu May 23, 2002 1:38 am

I see Ashley Cole and Teddy are injured now Big grin

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Thu May 23, 2002 1:50 am

Bet you never thought you'd enjoy the World Cup this much, Mr Kirk? Big grin

The irony is, all of our replacements are players Bertie would kill for!
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 1:52 am

England might aswell call it a day and come home, the injury situation is ridiculous. There's got to be something wrong with the diet and fitness of players in football these days. Why are players getting injured so easily? Hamstrings,ligaments,groin? you name it. I dont remember players getting injured like this years ago.

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Thu May 23, 2002 1:55 am

Well, you remember that Beckham's boot manufacturer were suggesting that they would make a special boot to protect his metatarsals. Now, since at least three other players have had the same injury, it sggests to me that the boots might have been the problem in the first place, with insufficient protection. But hey, what do I know.
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Thu May 23, 2002 4:07 am

Danny Murphy injured also  Big thumbs up
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 4:59 am

At least the English players aren't dumb enough to play keepy up with a bottle of aftershave.......I hope.
 
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 6:06 am

Michael Owen is out for up to 6 months....reason? Keepie-uppie with a bottle of aftershave.
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 6:06 am

Look England are not going to win the world cup and i don't think there even be in knock stages of the world cup, because i think Argentenia and Nigeria will go through. I hate Beckham he's a show off, but admire Owen and Scholes.

See ya

P.S May next world cup, but not this one!!
 
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Thu May 23, 2002 5:03 pm

I think most people would accept that England's team will be very strong (i.e older than 21) by the next World Cup with this one too early for them. But, we always want to dream, don't we? The point is that if England play like they did against Germany in every game they will win the World Cup. But of course, young sides (and England is very, very, young) do not do that consistently, hence it is unlikely.
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Fri May 24, 2002 11:43 pm

The point is that if England play like they did against Germany in every game they will win the World Cup.
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Teams such as France, Argentina and Brazil are not as crap as Germany were so I think you cannot prove that point Banco  Big thumbs up
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RE: England To Play 5-0-5 Formation At World Cup

Sat May 25, 2002 12:28 am

Of course it can't be proven, you silly boy! Big grin

What I was saying was that on that particular night England produced a display of incisive counter attacking and finishing that would beat most or even all teams. But, and it's a big but; they are a very young team, and as with most very young teams they tend to be dreadfully inconsistent. As such, I think it unlikely in the extreme that they could win the World Cup. In four years time, it will be a different matter, and England may well be the favourites by then - don't forget that no other nation has such riches in their younger players. For example, about six of the England squad were eligible for the Under 21's (who themselves had more teenagers than any other side at the European U-21 championships), and England have by far the youngest squad out in Japan.

Incidentally, I put up the title for this thread as something of a joke, but with Murphy now definitely out (ANOTHER metatarsal break) it is becoming horribly prophetic. What price Trevor Sinclair suffers DVT on the way back out to the Far East? Big grin

By the way Mr Kirk, you really have to ask questions as to why it is that Scotland are not producing good young players. Particularly when you think that many always used to come up through English clubs in the past.
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