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Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 6:06 am

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53460,00.html

In a nutshell, Jesse Ventura of Minnesota has vetoed a bill that would require the recessitation of the Pledge of Allegiance once a week in Minn. schools.

"I am vetoing this bill because I believe patriotism comes from the heart," Ventura said in his veto message Wednesday. "Patriotism is voluntary. It is a feeling of loyalty and allegiance that is the result of knowledge and belief. A patriot shows their patriotism through their actions, by their choice."

Amen Jesse! Finally a politician has the guts to nix a feel-good mandate likely forwarded by some self serving egomaniac with little real legislative talent who's intent on "out-patriot"-ing everyone else and getting some press for it.

We shouldn't love our country and express that love "because someone told us to." Pledge? Absolutely. Law requiring the Pledge? No.

Way to go, Body!


 
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 6:14 am

Way to go Jessie!  Big thumbs up

"I am vetoing this bill because I believe patriotism comes from the heart,"


a Pledge requirement reminds him of the indoctrination practiced by the Nazis and the Taliban.




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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 7:38 am

He´s right! (And I´m not even american! Big grin)

It seems he didn´t get hit on the head as hard as some other politicians...  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 7:42 am

whatever. Fine, I agree with him that partiotism should come from the heart, who can disagree with that??

The kids should say the pledge anyway, it reaffirms love and trust for this country as they grow and develop at their maleable young ages.

If we don't reinforce and teach them right, this world is so full of sick fucks who will reinfoece and teach them wrong.

whatever, stupid thread, just gonna start a flame war.
 
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 8:23 am

Twaneedsnohelp:
this world is so full of sick fucks who will reinfoece and teach them wrong.


They should be OK as long as they stay away from the Non-Aviation forums.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Just kidding!  Smile
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 10:59 am

I was just watching that unbiased (right), network, FOX, and Hannity and Newtie Gingrich were lamenting that fact that "only" 25 states require the Pledge of Allegiance at school. Believe me, there's nuts out there like Twotterwrench, who think you have to mandate patriotism, and other things, in our schools. I'm not a big fan of "The Body", but he was right on vetoing this bill of forced patriotism.
 
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 11:41 am

Twaneedsnohelp does.
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Thu May 23, 2002 11:44 am

I guess that to stay within the rules I should expand on this.

Reciting something by rote and being forced into saying it does not make one believe. Governor Venura is so right on this one. It's too bad that American politicians of today don't have the moral fortitude to say what they believe.
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Fri May 24, 2002 8:51 am

Jesse for Prez 2004! An Independent President who isn't nursing on the teat of special interests...I can dream, can't I?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Governor Jesse Nixes Forced Pledging

Fri May 24, 2002 9:36 am

TNNH:

The kids should say the pledge anyway, it reaffirms love and trust for this country as they grow and develop at their maleable young ages.

I don't know about you, but when I was in school, the pledge had NOTHING to do with patriotism. Growing up, and in school, the Pledge was more or less a pain in the ass to all kids. I'm not saying it is right, but thats how it goes. "Forced Patriotism" in the form of the Pledge is pointless.

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