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I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 10:58 am

I watched almost the entire Indy 500 today and then stayed on ABC to watch the Monaco Grand Prix.

Even though the Indy 500 was great, the F-1 race was pure on the edge of your seat action the whole time though. I couldn't believe Cahldroun(sp?) held off Schumacher that long!

I like how F-1 has only certain segments that have caution, and they have more street courses in their schedule. Plus it's a lot nicer to watch Mercedes and Fierraris race than Chevys and Fords.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 11:11 am

No way, I love America's largest spectator sport, NASCAR racing baby! Go Kurt Busch in the #97 and the entire Roush Racing team!

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 11:33 am

There is NO skill in making four left hand turns!  Smile

PanAm, I'm with you 100%. I think the one thing I need to do before I go to my great reward is to watch the Monaco race in person from the tunnel section (if that's even possible).

The rear facing cameras were absolutely stunning (first time I've seen those...I've been out of touch for a while). To watch an object literally disappear in the blink of an eye gives the truest sense of speed and appreciation for the skills of these drivers (the kind that make hairpin, left and right turns).

Thankfully, M. Schumacher finished a close second.
 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 11:47 am

Wow, no skill? Hehehe, I thought that this was one of the better Indy 500 races in years, down to the wire. Couldn't get any better. Man that Monaco Grand Prix was great too! What a great day in racing.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 11:54 am

Man, dream on! Where is Hurricane? I know he's a big Nascar fan! C'mon buddy, I need some help here, lol
 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 12:03 pm

NASCAR is ok, but it would be nice to see it more like "Days of Thunder". Stock Cars are just about the only ones that could stand the constat hitting. I know dream on...

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 12:21 pm

It's a shame to watch the Indy 500 knowing that it's not the best drivers/cars, the CART league is the league that split from Indy a couple years ago to form their own league. It's pool of owners and drivers include legends such as Mario and Michael Andretti, Al Unser jr etc. And the cars the CART drivers have are superior to the Indy racing league's.

Right now Formula 1 is the better league, but if CART and Indy were to settle their differences bringing CARTs cars, drivers, owners and legends to the Indy courses that would bring US open wheel racing back to the level it deserves.

I would rate my favorite CART, Indy, NASCAR, Formula 1 and NHRA tracks as:

CART:

Surfer's Paradise, Long Beach, Cleveland Burke Lakefront airport, Sears Point, and Road America Wisconsin?..

Formula 1:

Monaco, San Marino?..

NASCAR:

Daytona 500,

Indy racing league:

Indianapolis 500, Texas Motor speedway

NHRA:

Raceway Park Englishtown NJ (because I can literaly walk their).
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 12:21 pm

PanAm747:
Cahldroun(sp?)

It's Coulthard.
 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 12:33 pm

PanAm747, I also agree with you 100%, I've loved F1 from the early-mid 70's (Niki Lauda Ferrari) days. thank you know who that I have the Speed Channel on the dish. Speed channel also lets me watch my other favorite form of motor sport WRC, I just wish that they showed more complete stages. I have to agree also on the NASCAR, I can watch it in small amounts, but when you put 35+ cars on a 1 mile track i loose interest fast.



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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 5:27 pm

Formula 1 is great!
One of the reason why I like it is, that it doesn't only happen in Europe, it's worldwide. Races in Asia, Australia, South America, North America and Europe.

My favourite track is Kuala Lumpur / Sepang in Malaysia.

My favourite team: Sauber-Petronas (Swiss Team!)

I don't like Ferrari and Schumacher M.

Looking forward for the next race!
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 8:08 pm

The new cameras and stats are unique to the ABC coverage, which will only be available for Monaco, Montreal, Monza, and Indy this season. Yesterday's coverage was delayed by about 8 hours, so I just watched the good old live TSN coverage. The ABC broadcast also seemed to be time compressed, and edited, especially in terms of the comentators and the footage they chose to show.

There is only one real street circuit in F1 (Monaco), the rest are road circuits, no ovals (thank god).

P.S. Jordan scored again! Yippie!

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 8:58 pm

Monaco is not the best grand prix in terms of racing because although visually stunning, overtaking is difficult. It's pretty exciting watching them as they try to overtake and then brake in time for them to take a corner whilst still trying to keep the racing line. Do the racers who drive these oval circuits select cruise control as they go round and round......

Why are there no American based teams in F1 as well?
 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Mon May 27, 2002 11:21 pm

Put it this way, Saintsman, most of the American teams in Indycars use British built cars. Because there is no motor industry to speak of, all the British engineers and designers tend to go into motorsport. Hence the centre of racing car manufacturing is in the UK. Even the so-called Mercedes engine in the MacLaren is in fact designed and built by a small British company - using Mercedes money. It is the same with rallying.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Tue May 28, 2002 1:48 am

I've been a F1 fan for years and I support David Coulthard of McLaren. My favourite race is the Canadian Grand Prix. Monaco is nice but it's to hard to overtake other cars.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Tue May 28, 2002 3:06 am

I thought BAR(British American Racing) was an (partly) American formula 1 team?

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Tue May 28, 2002 4:02 pm

Sorry guys but CART rules! While I appreciate how F1 trully is global, its all too much about the car in F-1. Where did the lead change happen in the Monaco race? First lap. That is all too common in F1 and it ends up making the race more of a procession. On any race there are trully only 6 drivers in F1 who can win a race. After seeing what happened between Barichello and Schumacher how can you like F1? CART not only is the fastest racing, but it has numerous lead changes, a varied assortment of different tracks, and at least a dozen drivers can win a CART race. I've been to 2 CART races and loved them both. I guess the true test for the F1 vs. CART race will be when both circuits will race in Montreal on the same circuit. There is will be easy to compare the Canadian Grand Prix and the Molson Indy Montreal.
 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Tue May 28, 2002 5:07 pm

How can anyone like something which goes in one big oval ???  Confused
Formula 1 rules!  Big thumbs up
BTW David Coulthard used to live 40 miles from me  Big grin
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Tue May 28, 2002 9:50 pm

PH-BFA, BAR is owned by British-American Tobacco, hence the name. As far as I understand it, they are a British company anyway, but the car is certainly a British one. It's not very good though! Big grin
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Wed May 29, 2002 1:26 am

Well, I got a feeling that CART is less advanced than F-1, but sure like it anyway. My favorite track is Belgium Grand Prix, I really like races with altitude
differences like the Belgium track.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Wed May 29, 2002 5:39 am

For those of you complaining about the Monaco track, keep in mind that it's the one circuit that really gives the underpowered teams a good opportunity to score points. There are very few tracks on the F1 calendar that could have allowed DC to take the win under the circumstances. Not to mention Fisi finishing 5th (2pt) and HHF 6th (1pt), as well as Mark Webber running his Minardi Asiatech at a strong 8th place until a few laps to the end.

In any case, the actual track will be modified in the next few years, which will include a new pit complex, which will actually have some garage space for all teams instead of the off-track storage facilities currently used.

One circuit that will introduce a new layout this year is Hockenheim, the home of the German GP. The changes, which will shorten and slow the track will see most of Hockenheim's trademark "forest straights" cut off, totally ruining the track as far as I'm concerned.

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Wed May 29, 2002 8:56 am

Well, Hungarian GP is also difficult to overtake. DC is still a winner, even on other tracks, I expect him to win the British GP (his favorite GP). Frentzen arrow isn´t "underpowered" (often with top speed that could compare with
the top teams) but the rest of the car isn´t as good as the top teams.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Wed May 29, 2002 9:04 am

Oh yea baby!
I'm with ya all the way National_757! NASCAR rocks! Go 88! Now that's some real racin'! Bumpin' and grindin' 500... sometimes 600 miles all the way to the finish line...and you still get great finishes like this!
But I love F1 and the IRL too...just not as much I guess.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Wed May 29, 2002 12:16 pm

Alright, there you are Hurricane! I knew you'd come through for me  Smile Nothing beats America's good ol' fashioned stock car racing.

Hey, I was wondering, is there any place in the world (other than the US) where they have Nascar Stock Car type racing?

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Wed May 29, 2002 9:45 pm

F1 is kool!!!!

Sincerely I can't understant people looking cars running along a ring.

Booooooooooring!!!
 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Wed May 29, 2002 9:52 pm

If you want to see the best driving watch F1, cart and world rally. nascar is a little too fabricated for me. it's like they are trying to create artificial competition with the rules. but they have some very good teams and drivers. we just get so bombarded with it in the US that it's easy to get sick of it. give me any motorcycle racing too. those guys have sack!
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Thu May 30, 2002 4:40 am

National_757: Other than the exhibition races NASCAR had in Japan a few years back, there is rally racing, and that is only on road courses. Other than that, I don't know of any other closed wheel racing that isn't in the US.

*Don't forget, NASCAR has road racing too!*
 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Thu May 30, 2002 4:43 am

I don't like Ferrari and Schumacher M.

And again we have a different opinion Swissgabe Big grin

Ferrari is my favourite!! Big grin

Schumacher his character is not my favourite, but he is the best driver around there.

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Thu May 30, 2002 4:51 am

Schumacher is a good driver but I don't like the guy after the day he crashed into Damon Hill in the last race of the season and won the championship because of it...
Too bad for him it didn't go as well when he tried the same thing on Villeneuve one or two years after Big grin

He has been so superior in the last few races that they have been a bit boring to watch, I want to see more competition!



 
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Thu May 30, 2002 5:39 am

National,

There is a new series just started (I'm just watching a repeat of the 2nd race right now actually) in the UK/Europe, it's called ASCAR. They built an oval circuit in the UK (Rockingham) last year, and had a few exhibition races there, but this year it's one of the main tracks. I also believe that CART is due to come here at some point, don't know if it's this season or next...that should be interesting.

I used to like F-1, but it's got really boring in last couple of years and there too safety conscious now, and hardly ever make any overtaking manoeuvres. I prefer WRC or Touring cars, as you can relate to them better, they are the cars you can see every day on the street.
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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Thu May 30, 2002 5:58 am

Thanks for the info Leezyjet! In case any of you want the offical website of ASCAR, here it is!

This series looks exciting! I hope they have some coverage here in the US!

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RE: I Think I Love F-1

Thu May 30, 2002 6:07 am

ASCAR...very interesting. I hope it survives. Is it in any way sponsored by NASCAR? I noticed the American flag on the logo, and a Chevy Monte Carlo (blugh...) on the website header...

Sit any person in front of a tv covering a NASCAR race at Bristol and I'm sure they will be hooked.

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