ryanb741
Posts: 5058
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:36 pm

Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 1:35 am

Check out the link below:

http://www.ananova.com/sport/story/sm_596423.html?menu=

What a surprise if he does go back!
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 2:01 am

This is fascinating! It hasn't even started yet and this been the most enjoyable World Cup in years! Big grin
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
Vulindlela
Posts: 451
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2002 10:34 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 4:19 am

If Keane does not play both he and McCarthy will regret it. (unless Ireland actually do well without him, then only Keane will regret it).
"If you take everything I've accomplished in my entire life and condense it down into 1 day, it looks decent!"
 
Arsenal@LHR
Posts: 7510
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:55 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 6:08 am

No way pedro!!! He ain't going back now, hot head keane has blown it already.
I'll run naked down oxford street if keane is allowed back into the irish squad! Big grin

Arsenal@LHR
In Arsene we trust!!
 
Guest

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 2:48 pm

Arsenal, Oxford street is a pretty long street and pretty crowded as well  Big thumbs up
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 4:39 pm

No, he's talking about the nickname for a small path in the Peak District where no-one ever goes.  Big grin

The Irish players have rejected Keane's return:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/rep_of_ireland/newsid_2011000/2011673.stm

Let's have a straw poll here: Is Keane a prat or not?

I say definite prat.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
ei 168
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:00 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 5:04 pm

He is no prat!! Keane got the players that ticket to Japan! I think its a disgrace that the players have acted so selfish!! If you listen to that interview on the telly, keane had no choice to use words of that nature! He was backed into a corner! He was called a liar by McCarthy. He was accused of faking an injury! BRING BACK KEANE!!!!!
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 5:11 pm

Roy Keane is alleged to have said to McCarthy:

"How dare you call a f****** meeting behind my back you c***, you were a crap player and you are are a crap manager, the only reason I have anything to do with you is because you are somehow the Irish manger, and you are not even f****** Irish, you English c***".

Now, try saying that to your boss, and see where it gets you. As for McCarthy not being Irish (he was born in England to Irish parents), Keane's children were born in England and his wife's English, does he have the same opinion of them?

No, the arrangements by the FAI may have been poor, but McCarthy himself has complained about that on numerous occasions. There is no justification for Keane's outburst. The fact that the players don't want him back speaks volumes. He has let his country down.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
ei 168
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:00 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 5:16 pm

Have you looked at the interview Banco?? I dont think you have, because you will see that keane didnt call him an english c***.
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 5:39 pm

Yes, I've seen the interview, but the above is what Keane is supposed to have said at the training ground during the argument. Now, where this came from originally I have no idea, but it has been doing the rounds in the papers. It may be true, it may not (which is why I used "allegedly"), but it has had heavy coverage.

What is true is that the other players have spoken about their shock at the language used towards McCarthy by Keane. It seems pretty clear that the players do not want him back, and since he did this interview but refused to apologise, it smacks of Keane trying to garner the sympathy vote.

As I said, on the issue of the facilities, he may well have had a point - and McCarthy has gone on record before criticising the FAI, but it would be a mistake for anyone to compare the FAI with the considerably richer FA and what they arrange for England. Nevertheless, his behaviour meant that his sacking from the squad was inevitable. What would you have McCarthy do? Just take the abuse and carry on? The manager has to be in charge. As with any job, you may disagree or dislike the person in charge, but if you tell them exactly what you think of them there is only going to be one outcome. Even Keane admitted that McCarthy had no choice but to send him home.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 5:41 pm

Oh, damn, I forgot to mention, EI168. I am English, but I'm not remotely offended by what Keane said - nor is anyone else I know, so please don't think that is why I'm making the point above.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
ei 168
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:00 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 5:48 pm

Bad language happens week in and week out in football. So as for the players thats a non-issue!! I agree, keane did say that McCarthy was right to send him home! Just think this though, Would you be happy in work if all your collegues were bought up on front of you and you were picked on by your boss. I dont think you would be and neither would anybody else.
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 5:58 pm

Well, I guess it comes down to who you believe. Keane certainly feels that MCarthy's intention was to give him a dressing down in public, but McCarthy and the other staff strenuously deny that was the case. The two of them have had a difficult relationship for years certainly. When Keane initially walked out, McCarthy is supposed to have asked what the problem was, even querying whether it was him, to which Keane replied that it wasn't.

As for bad language being part and parcel of it, yes I agree, but it does raise the issue as to why the players felt that it was the worst they had ever heard. From their comments (the nearest thing we'll get to a neutral point of view in all of this) it does seem that the whole tirade was out of the norm - or beyond the pale to use a (somewhat appropriate, all things considered!) Irish term!

How do you feel about the other players condemning Keane? About four of them are supposed (that word again - there's very little certain in all of this) to have said they will walk out if he returns. This is a very difficult situation, and overall the Irish team are the loser, however it turns out.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
AMSMAN
Posts: 975
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 6:24 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 6:02 pm

Didnt he openly say that he wouldnt go back "in a million years"?
Aer Lingus, Proud to be Irish.
 
ei 168
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:00 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 6:09 pm

I feel its disgraceful in this day and age that they cant put there differences behind them. As for the 4 players, I think Keane is worth 4 of those players and I would be willing to sacrafice them for Keane. I know you probably dont agree with this, but the general feeling is that in Ireland!!
 
saintsman
Posts: 2037
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2002 12:34 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 6:12 pm

Football is supposed to be a team game and Keane is not a team player. It's all about him and nobody else. You see it all the time with him. The red mist clouds his eyes and he doesn't give a damn about the consequences to himself or whatever team he is playing for. No doubting his talent but he's still a nutter.

If his own team-mates don't want him back what does that really say about him?
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 6:26 pm

Interesting point, EI168. Personally, I don't greatly care, apart from a mild desire to see Ireland do well. But I am interested in your comment about what the Irish people think about all of this. I've heard contradictory reports about them backing both parties. Are you saying that they back Keane, or that they just have desire to see him back in the squad regardless? If it's the former, then McCarthy is surely a dead man walking anyway.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
ei 168
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:00 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 6:36 pm

After the Interview last night it seems to have swung in keane's favour!! I saw a poll last nite on Irish television which stated that 95% are in favour of him being reinstated in the squad. McCarthy is giving an interview to the press at 12pm. Personally I think the Irish media are going to take him to the scrap yard.
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 9:53 pm

The plot thickens!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/team_pages/rep_of_ireland/newsid_2012000/2012238.stm

This is turning into a disaster for the Irish team in terms of morale, on top of losing a world class player.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
Arsenal@LHR
Posts: 7510
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:55 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 11:07 pm

I cant see how they will let him back into the squad. The players will walk out in protest if he's allowed in again. But i stand by my vow, i'll do what i said in my first post! Big grin

Arsenal@LHR
In Arsene we trust!!
 
ei 168
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:00 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 11:20 pm

I cant see him come back now! It will need a miralcle! Having said that the bookies in Ireland have shortened the odds of McCarthy getting the sack before Saturday! That will be a disaster if that happens.
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 11:22 pm

Unless Keane is prepared to apologise, it's going to be one or t'other, I'm afraid.

Quinn looked close to tears in the press conference.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
Arsenal@LHR
Posts: 7510
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:55 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Tue May 28, 2002 11:26 pm

There was also some stuff in the daily mirror today about Quinn and Robbie Keane exchanging punches during a training session. It's madness in the irish camp!!  Nuts

Arsenal@LHR
In Arsene we trust!!
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Wed May 29, 2002 1:54 am

The game against Cameroon is going to be fun. One side at each others throats, and the other hopelessly jet-lagged and whingeing about money. I predict a 9-9 draw! Big grin
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
Arsenal@LHR
Posts: 7510
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 2:55 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Wed May 29, 2002 2:38 am

But all this is sweet music to England's ears! While everyone at the world cup start to really lose the plot, maybe England can take some sort of advantage?

Arsenal@LHR
In Arsene we trust!!
 
ei 168
Posts: 61
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:00 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Wed May 29, 2002 3:24 am

This story is getting more interesting by the hour!!
http://irelandlive.sports.com/football/news/2002/05/28/sLON01MTAyMjU5NzQwOTg.html

Hopefully everything will be all right now!!

 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Wed May 29, 2002 3:40 am

If they really can pull this off (and for Ireland's sake let's hope so) morale will rocket - provided they really can bury the hatchet and not in each other either.

We'll see. One way or another this has been awful preparation for their first match.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
 
David_itl
Posts: 5970
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2001 7:39 am

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Wed May 29, 2002 4:35 am


Keane's going nowhere! He's literally just this minute issued a statement that in the interests of the team, he won't go back

David/MAN
 
Banco
Posts: 14343
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2001 11:56 pm

RE: Keane To Rejoin Ireland Squad?

Wed May 29, 2002 4:44 am

Why do I find it hard to believe that this is the end of the matter? Am I being overly cynical to believe that Keane will await the public begging him to go back before reluctantly deciding that in the interests of Ireland he will go back if that's what they really, really want.

I suspect a PR scam, I'm afraid. I'd love to be wrong.
She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests