Matt D
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Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Mon Jun 03, 2002 9:58 pm

Does anyone besides myself believe that hunting for ol' Osama is a lost cause?

I believe the bastard is dead, and probably has been for awhile.

Stop and think about it. He hasn't put out any new "press releases". And the last one that he did, he appeared to be in failing health. Plus, the last one showed mountains and rock formations in the background that could've revealed his location. Yet no one bothered to address that detail. Perhaps him and the "producers" knew that, and knew that Osama wasn't long for this world, and so figured: "Why bother"? There have been no other threats or actions. And he had to sit through a nice cold winter. Even if he had an underground bunker, it wouldn't have done much good. How would he get food and water-unless his network had already constructed an elaborate series of underground tunnels-which I find highly unlikely, since actual survival never seemed to be a high priority on the Talibans list of things to do. Since he was the worlds most wanted man, there would've been nowehere for him to go to get the medical attention he probably needed.

Osama Bin Laden no longer exists.

Who are we going after now?

 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:15 pm

It's entirely possible that he is dead, although proving it may be difficult or impossible. As for the new targets, I'd say the remaining al-Qaeda elements will keep the United States and its coalitions partners occupied for a long time to come.
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:18 pm

I have a feeling that the whole Bin-Laudin thing is going to end up like one of those "Boys from Brazil" stories.

You know.

Did he die, did he escape, Is he alive, Is he dead.
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:32 pm

You mean like D.B. Cooper?

No one really knows what happened to the rascal.

I also heard somewhere that Hitlers corpse was never found, and the suicide never actually proven by an autopsy. The entire story was based on secondhand hearsay accounts.

Don't know how true THAT story is, but I did hear it from more than one source.
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:43 pm

Sure, I guess that works too,

Criminal, Dissapears, no trace of him, is he alive or is he dead?

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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Mon Jun 03, 2002 10:53 pm

Bush wants him dead or alive, and also he wants to be re-elected so he makes the American People think they would be speaking arabic if he wasn't in office.
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:33 am

Maybe Bush regrets originally making him such a focus of attention, it was always going to be very difficult to get him.
They've changed their tune now though, Bin-Laden is no longer an issue apparently.
Maybe a recognition that he's just a figurehead, like most well-organised, well-motivated terrorist groups, Al-Queda probably has a 'cell' system, each cell able to operate independently of each other and without a top-down command structure.
Also, why highlight him? Maybe a bit embarrassing if it's true that he was allowed to get away from Tora-Bora because the proxy Afghan forces were easily bribed, (you'd have thought that using proxy personnel on critical missions would have ended with the Bay Of Pigs in 1961, if you're going to fight a war, do it, if casualties are such an issue then what are you doing there anyway?)
But Bush could have displayed Bin-Laden's head on a stick, it would not have meant a certain end to terrorist attacks.
Then there is the possibility that he was close to capture, so took his own life, his bodyguards disposing of the body, thus creating a legend, a constant unanswered question for his enemies.
Extensive DNA checks on remains in bombed out Al-Queda caves and bunkers have drawn a blank.
But very likely he and his followers are holed up in a lawless, sympathetic region on the Pakistan/Afghan border, waiting. Waiting for the Western forces to leave, or regrouping to stage guerilla attacks, remember he's a veteran of the insurgency against the Soviets, (with much CIA help at the time).
He also knows the 'instant results' driven impatience of his enemies.



 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:07 am

From what I've heard there is evidence pertaining to both stories, either he is dead or isn't dead. If I had my preference, he would be alive, and being tortured to a slow and horrible death.



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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:21 am

I bet he is still alive. Infact, I know he is. I bet he is hiding out, not in Asia, but in Western Europe. I bet you he is in Germany, France, or England.
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 2:53 am

Or, more likely, the person that assumed the identity of Osama Bin Laden a number of years back is now home in Israel in his true capacity as a loyal Mossad officer being congratulated and rewarded for a job well done!
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 3:08 am

Flight Level,

Infact, I know he is.

How do you know he is? Do you have some secret information to share with us?

SAS23,

Or, more likely, the person that assumed the identity of Osama Bin Laden a number of years back is now home in Israel in his true capacity as a loyal Mossad officer being congratulated and rewarded for a job well done!

You never cease to amaze me. How could you bring up Israel in this discussion? You always have to put some of your BS remarks about Israel in every topic you can, and we're all getting sick of it!  Pissed



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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 6:48 am

IMO, if he is dead and certain intelligence officials know about it, I dont think theyd inform the country about it, and Id prefer it that way. With Osama gone, it would make the American public much more reluctant towards the war against terrorism. Still keeping his (I mean its - not a human) status unknown allows the US to continue its campaign. With Osama gone, alot of people will think terrorism is gone.

Also, once the whole Isreal-Palestianian and India-Pakistan thing cools down (which will probably be never), look for the US to go after Iraq, with or without the world's help. This is just a region that needs to be taken care of. Offering rewards to the families of the suicide bombers is just unacceptable. Saddam is probably responsible for just as much terrorism as Al-queda, but again, thats just my $.02.
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 7:40 am

Arafat pays for suicide bombers something like 25000 a family. He sends kids its all the same to him!
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:17 am

Regarding Hitler, from what I have heard and read the Soviets did uncover the corpse and proved conclusively that it was him. However, the whole myth argument started because it was easier for the Soviets to colonize Eastern Europe if the threat of Hitler did not dissipate.

Now back to Osama, I would wager that he is still alive but it's hard to tell. The whole thing is very much a double-edged sword. Announce his death and he becomes a martyr and there is the fear of retaliatory attacks in response to his death. Fail to kill him makes the US look somewhat foolish for claiming over and over again at the start of the war that capturing OBL was the main objective.
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 8:47 am

IMO, if he is dead and certain intelligence officials know about it, I dont think theyd inform the country about it, and Id prefer it that way. With Osama gone, it would make the American public much more reluctant towards the war against terrorism. Still keeping his (I mean its - not a human) status unknown allows the US to continue its campaign. With Osama gone, alot of people will think terrorism is gone.

That's a very good point. Now that almost nine months have passed since September 11th, the American public's interest in the war on terrorism likely would begin to wane if it weren't for bin Laden. People do have short memories.
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:23 pm

Even if he was alive, the US or any other countries (even with the most *expencive or best technology) they still have a *needle in the haystack* chance of finding him.
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:30 pm

No, I don't have any secret information.  Smile

However, I do know that if he is dead, then Al Qaeda would be acting differently. I don't know what I am saying...

All I know is, is that he is most likely still alive and well. I have done a ton of research on the guy and the politics and actions of terrorist organizations and I just have a hunch that he is still alive.
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:35 pm

Or, more likely, the person that assumed the identity of Osama Bin Laden a number of years back is now home in Israel in his true capacity as a loyal Mossad officer being congratulated and rewarded for a job well done!

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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Tue Jun 04, 2002 12:43 pm


What's another word for thesaurus?
 
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RE: Is Bin Laden Even Still Alive?

Wed Jun 05, 2002 7:40 am

LOL Dripstick!! ^5!!
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