frequentflyer5
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Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:15 am

I'm car shopping and have no idea on what to focus on...I am looking for a car for general use, to and from work. I'll go for some test drives tonight. My options:

1. Lexus GS400 beautiful but don't really want to purchase a Toyota! I rode in one during my recent trip to Japan (Toyota Aristo w/turbo). I was quite impressed!

2. Nissan Maxima SE heard all great things (amazing engine!) but a design change coming up very soon? Almost half the price too!

3. BMW 528, people tell me you'll do better in the Maxima SE...no idea. I used to own the 528 but the darn electricals!!! Other than that it was one of the best performing cars I have had!

4. Infiniti G? Worth the money? Reminds me of the new Altima...same chasis?

Any suggestions on a commute-car will be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks in advanced!

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174thfwff
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:27 am

Commute car? Uh...A Toyota Corolla is a commute car, those are luxury.

My opinions...

2001.5 or higher Passat 1.8 Turbo or the Passat W8

BMW 3XX, 5xx, or even the M3

I own the Passat 1.8 turbo, and it's a blast. Much more fun then the V6, no joke. Email me if you want to ask ANY questions about the car.

Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten, Uptown, what now? Lets make it happen.
 
frequentflyer5
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:31 am

174thfwff, thanks for that info. I might consider it! How's the reliability on it?
VW is doing quite well I've heard.

I entertain my clients quite frequently so I need something better than a 'Corolla'...



 
BH346
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:40 am

Out of those, the BMW looks the best. Passat sounds good, too, but if you're going to get a loaded Passat, you might as well get an Audi A4 for the price. Perhaps a Mercedes Benz in that price range? The GS300 and the Maxima kinda have odd styling, IMHO, reminds me of a rice rocket, especially the Maxima. The Infiniti G...The G20 is only a 4-cylinder which isn't good for a luxury car...G35, I hear the car is tiny inside, looks small.
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TurbineBeaver
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:45 am

I think there is someone on here who knows about 528is. Can't remember his username off the top of my head.

I'd go with the Maxima. No sense spendin the bucks for a bimmer if you aren't gonna get any power on it.

TB
 
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:47 am

However, if you've got more of a price range in mind, and less strict to those choices, take the Audi A4 man.

TB
 
BH346
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:48 am

Yeah, he knows about the 528, his car's interior is a special edition interior or something, though.
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TurbineBeaver
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:55 am

Oh yeah, but good luck with the new 528i. I've heard that they're *real* rare!

TB

*You meant either a 525i or a 530i? (or of course, the powerful 540i)!!!
 
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:58 am

BH,

Yeah, like a KIA or Daewoo interior edition? Supposed to be top of the line. With a digital camcorder installed.

TB
 
frequentflyer5
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 5:58 am

Audi A4 is on the list. I'll take a look at it tonight for sure however is out performed by the Maxima SE (according to the commercials).

 
desertjets
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 6:00 am

Since you will be entertaining clients a bigger car would make them happier. The 3 series and A4 are quite tiny by comparison. Maxima's are nice and would probably be a good choice if you needed something big and cheap. The Passat GLS 1.8T would be my choice if I didn't need something as big.

I'd would DEFINATELY look at the new G35 (based on a rear-drive Skyline platform that the Z350, G35 coupe and rumored next-gen Skyline GTR all share). Everyone has raved how great a car it is, but still 2nd to a BMW 3 series.

but seriously how much do you want to spend??? You are looking at cars from $25K to $50K+... you are in an enviable situation my friend.
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frequentflyer5
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 6:09 am

DesertJets, thanks for that info. You're right, I need to tighten my price range. $40K to $50K sounds reasonable...however that Max SE is certainly looking good for the price/performance.



 
TurbineBeaver
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 6:23 am

$40k-$50k?

Damn. You bankin' mad cash, or takin' out a loan? If I had that cash in my bank account, I'd get an M3 in a heartbeat, but it's your choice.

TB
 
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 6:35 am

They all sound pretty good, just DON'T PAY STICKER! MAKE SURE YOU LET THE DAMN CARSALESMEN KNOW YOU ARE THE BOSS!
 
174thfwff
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 6:53 am

Okay, well I hope if you entertain clients you won't fit 5 ADULTS in the car at the same time. The only CAR you can get away with that is hmm, well I don't know comfortably.

The Passat has been amazing. VW Has changed a lot over the past few years. Check this link out...http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/49540/page007.html
" Interestingly, several test drivers preferred the turbocharged four-cylinder engine over the more powerful and refined V6, which tends to feel weak at low revs and exhibits a decidedly non-linear delivery of power. Plus, the turbo gets better fuel economy and isn't affected as much by altitude."

Here is the whole comparison...http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/49540/article.html

You won't be sorry if you want to entertain 4 adults...However I am afraid you won't find many cars at all that fit 5 comfortably.

-174thfwff
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ren41
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 7:26 am

Go with #3, what color are you planning on getting?

R41
 
TurbineBeaver
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 3:07 pm

Ren41,

Number 3 doesn't exist. They don't make a 528i.

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Adam84
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RE: Car Shopping!

Wed Jun 12, 2002 4:10 pm

Just get whatever car stirs your emotions the most (as long as its still in your budget). When you decide on a car go to edmunds.com and get the True Market Value so you have a basis to start negotiations.

Check some local dealer websites. They sometimes have internet only specials which you cannot get easily if you just walked in the door.
 
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RE: Car Shopping!

Thu Jun 13, 2002 12:30 am

Like others have said above the current Passat is an amazing car. It fits 4 people comfortably and is decently roomy. The A4 and BMW 3 series are too small to take rear seat passengers comfortably. You could get the BMW 525 or 530 though.

The current Maxima, as good as it is, sits in the shadow of the cheaper Altima. The Altima has a much better chassis, same engine (with 15 less hp only), and I believe is about the same size. Expect something special within a year or two from Nissan for the Maxima. That either means you'll get a wicked deal on a new one now, or you'll feel sorry in a year that you got the current one  Smile

For your purposes, at the lower end, I like the Passat. My dad owns a 2001 1.8T and it's been great! I drive a 97 Jetta and it's been awesome as well. Higher end, I like the BMW 530i, but that's not a car for everybody. You have to appreciate something like that to justify the cost.
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frequentflyer5
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RE: Car Shopping!

Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:13 am

OK, I did all the investigating last night along with some test drives.
Do any of you agree that the latest model BMW's interior looks and feels cheap? Is it just me? It simply looks like it went through a big-time cost kill.

My co-worker drives the 1999 540 and the interior seems to be better made and solid.

The Acura 3.5RL, which was not on my list but seemed to be the better!

 
desertjets
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RE: Car Shopping!

Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:27 am

What were the sticker prices on the BMW's you looked at?

The one thing that I do not like about the BMW's is that while the 525 and 530 start at $35k and $40k respectively, most the models you actually see on the lot are very heavily optioned to begin with, which pushes prices up decently.

Other cars to look at, The A6... probably the prettiest of the mid-sized import luxury sedans. An A6 3.0 without the quattro drive, but the really nifty Audi Multi-tronic CVT, starts at $36k, Quattro 2.7T and V8 models are more obviously. Why not look at the Volvo S80, pretty roomy, generally well-appointed but Volvo isn't quite a prestige name yet. I personally think the Acura 3.5RL is getting a little long in the tooth... I believe it came out about 5-7 years ago and has been warmed over at least once. Infiniti has a new mid-sized product coming out called the M35, but it won't be in showrooms till fall. If you like electic look at the Saab 9^5, but it isn't my cup of tea.

I'd still say drive the new G35 and the VW Passat W8 and perhaps some of the lower models as well.

One more thing, I would not consider the 525i. Frankly the 2.5l I-6 is a little too light on power when compared to other vehicles at that price point. It is a good engine, but probably does better in the 325, but for $40k you can get a car with more power.
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FlyVirgin744
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RE: Car Shopping!

Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:28 am

I have an Acura 3.2 CL type S. My father liked mine so much, he bought himself one. I recommend the car very highly. It performs almost too well for its price. Car magazines rate it very highly as a commuter, and the Bose sound system is to die for.

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