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Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 10:27 am

As the first anniversary of a truly awful day approaches, I think it would be a very classy, appropriate thing if the President of the United States hopped aboard his big blue 747 and dropped in to pay a visit to two places that were bright lights of humanity in the darkness of September 11th.

And I'm not talking about a brief stop on the way to meet with Blair or Putin or someone. I'm talking a state visit. The kindness and sacrifice shown by the residents of these places (and others, too, no doubt, but it was these two towns that were literally 'swamped' with scared, stranded people) has a place in history as a tribute to what's good about the world.

The President, in person, with his jet as a back drop....speaking words of great thanks to these great people. Be a grand thing to see...

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 10:54 am

Although these two places had the most colourful arrangment of airlines and airplanes. A lot of airports had to handle a huge influx of airplanes in a short period of time.

Let alone the cities in the U.S., what about Vancouver?

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:21 am

NBC...

Not to detract from the good deeds of Vancouver, but it is a large city, perfectly capable of handling large numbers of visitors. In a few short hours diverted airliners deposited a number of passengers equal to the entire population of the small town of Gander. Somehow the residents here managed to care for the whole lot...and remember they were grounded for 3 days or more.

That "colorful arraingement" you refer to are rows and rows of widebodied jetliners designed to be flown into the biggest airports in the world, each packed with hundreds of people suddenly cut off from families and country.

There were tens of thousands of good deeds done in airports everywhere that day, I'm sure. I just think Halifax and Gander took the brunt and passed with flying colors, and should be recognized.
 
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:40 am

Even though I'm Canadian, I don't think the residents of Halifax & Gander did anything extraordinary. They did simply what ANY small communities would have done.

Bush should be in the US on Sept 11.
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:51 am

Bush should be in the US on Sept 11.

Absolutely. Forgive me if I gave the impression otherwise. Might be a decent thing to do in the weeks either before or after though.
 
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 12:35 pm

Even though I'm Canadian, I don't think the residents of Halifax & Gander did anything extraordinary. They did simply what ANY small communities would have done.

Is that really so? From what I understand, ordinary citizens in both communities - especially the much-smaller Gander - got involved in helping the stranded travelers, in many cases actually opening their houses to them. In other words, it wasn't just the "official" people such as airport workers and police who got involved.
I consider "unofficial" help such as that involved to be in many ways more praiseworthy than "official" help. At the risk of sounding somewhat churlish, I don't quite understand all the adulation poured on the September 11th rescue workers at the WTC. They were, after all, just doing their jobs, and didn't have any way of knowing the risks involved (almost all rescuer deaths occurred when the towers, especially the south tower, fell, and absolutely no one in the world anticipated that turn of events). But the people of Halifax and Gander didn't have to do anything, and weren't even expected to do anything. For that, they deserve praise.
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 2:59 pm

And they got praise. What more do they need?

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 3:25 pm

I couldn't agree with PROSA more!

I mean, they never knew that the towers were gonna go. I mean, there's honour to be given because they began a long trek up the towers to fight a fire, but at the same time, do they really deserve any more respect than any other firefighter who has given their life in a fire? That's debatable. I do think that out of respect the United States government should do something to honour the people who helped US and foreign citizens travelling to the US in a dire time of need.

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 4:35 pm

Don't forget Whitehorse in the NWT. Many travellers ended up there instead of their original stop over in ANC. Some were nip & tuck on fuel!
 
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Mon Jun 17, 2002 10:16 pm

And they got praise. What more do they need?

It's the whole point of the thread. A brief visit from Bush would be a very nice show of appreciation.
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Tue Jun 18, 2002 10:47 am

yes, but not on Sept 11.

Bush should be at home on that day.

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:10 am

When I read some of the accounts of the deeds of the people of Gander, Halifax and the other, less well-publicized Canadian host cities, I get all choked up.

Yes, it is certainly true, that these people did what neighbors do- but they did it with such commitment, such grace, such compassion!

It is, well and truly, historic kindness, and I hope someday to visit these places just so I can walk up to a local stranger and say, "Thank You."

When they extended the helping hand of friendship to all of the stranded passengers, those townspeople defeated the terrorists, one person at a time.
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:25 am

I'm all for an official visit to those cities, but not on Sept 11. He should be in the country that didn't elect him, paying tribute to the innocents who died.

If it's any consolation, I again give my warmest thanks and heartfelt praise to all Canadians, the best damn friends the USA has!
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Tue Jun 18, 2002 12:19 pm

I'm thinking that Bush should probably hang out in a bunker on the next 9-11 in case the wackos try it again! I suspect there will be some heightened security around the first anniversary.
 
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Tue Jun 18, 2002 1:25 pm

I think a lot of nutties are gonna call in bomb threats, but I don't think even radical terrorist organizations would try and do something on 11 September. Plus, if they wanted to truly have a good time with our psyche, they would do it on another day, as a way to give us two or more days of remembrance to those who died in terrorist attacks in America.

However, that's a morbid thought and something I think all of us would rather not think about.

Bush will be in America and seeing how Bush operates, I don't think he'll be hidden away in some unknown place. I think he'll be out somewhere making a speech. Although, it might not be known right away, I think that a stop in New York or in Washington might be planned. One thing you do have to admire about Bush is that even during 11 September, he may have been shuttled around the country, but once it was known that the attacks had ended he was publicly in many places, including NYC just days after. He certainly does have balls and courage to do what he did then, and I don't see why that will be different now.

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Tue Jun 18, 2002 11:31 pm

I agree, some type of national thank-you needs to be made to Canada on behalf of the USA, and this would be most appropriately done in Gander or Halifax.

Unfortunately, Canadians aren't registered to vote for US presidents - or if they are it slipped by me. Where there are no voters, there is little interest from the politicians - sad but true.

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Wed Jun 19, 2002 6:56 am

No national thank you from the US to Canada is needed.

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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Wed Jun 19, 2002 8:47 am

I agree, Dubya should thank the entire nation of Canada, not only to Gander and Halifax, although they did do the most memorable and extraordinary things. But unfortunatley I highly doubt he will ever do this. Remember how he forgot to mention us in his big speech a week after the attacks. That got us pretty pissed off. How about the time it took him 2 days to express his condolences towards the families who lost relatives in the friendly fire incident on Afghanistan. As George Dubya Bush said exactly 11 days after 9/11, "there is no need to thank a brother", there is no need to thank Canada.

Also for the people of the United States Bush should be as public as possible on 9/11/02, and show no fear of any kind.
 
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Wed Jun 19, 2002 12:52 pm

"They did simply what ANY small communities would have done."

So true. The key word is small here. Can you imagine a Phoenician or New Yorker inviting 50 people over for dinner in that situation? I can't. These people showed what being a good neighbor is about.

Thank you Canada for being such good friends to all humanity.
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Thu Jun 20, 2002 6:10 am

Your welcome, any time!:D
 
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RE: Bush Should Visit Halifax, Gander

Thu Jun 20, 2002 2:36 pm

Yes, I agree he should. Or at very least, mention in his 9-11-02 speech those people of both Canada and the USA (yes, we had some too!) who opened their hearts and homes to strangers during that darkest day.


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