Alpha 1 wrote:
>>If you're all so eager to give up you long-held national identities for "Europa"...
Who's giving up their national identities, Alpha 1? If you read what the supporters of closer EU integration have written, most believe that these countries can integrate WITHOUT giving up their identities.
I happen to believe that "national identity" is defined by things such as cuisine, culture, language, tradition, etc. And those elements certainly won't go away because of the EU. Quite the opposite: A closely-bound Europe will give a person in Germany easy access to culture from, say, Spain. You fail to realize that "national identity" just isn't defined by things such as currency. There's far more to these countries than that.
Alpha 1 wrote:
>>Far as I can tell, [the British are] about the only European country with a lick of sense these days. It will be a cold day in hell when the U.K. gives up its soverignty and its currency to some utopian, socialist-leaning state like "Europa".
Do they really have more sense, Alpha 1, or is a certain portion of their population just displaying their proverbial "insularity" and distrust of the Continent? I certainly don't think that the British should be forced to remain in a closely-integrated EU but, as some other posters have suggested, Britain shouldn't have the right to slow other countries' integration just because of its "Euro-skepticism" (which is very often based on emotion, rather than sound arguments).
As far as your comments about the "socialist" EU, Alpha 1: It doesn't cease to amaze me that you keep attacking the EU, even though you have seen very little of it, don't know it well at all, and are certainly not affected by it on a day-to-day basis.
Shouldn't you listen to what the Europeans have to say about it (people who actually live in Europe, and are affected by the EU every day)? Not everything they say will be pro-EU, but I'm willing to bet that most of it will be far more informed that your rhetoric about the Soviet-like EU and other nonsense. Of course, there are also many Americans who know the EU well, but you're not one of them, Alpha 1. NY Times columnist Thomas Friedman is a staunch supporter of capitalism and globlaization -- yet he considers himself a fan of the "socialist-leaning" EU. Weird, isn't it?
It's easy to have an agenda, but far more difficult to come up with an informed opinion.