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Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:17 pm

I love to study the human experience, but something troubles me. I see a lot of the hatred in the world is mirrored in this forum. Conservatives hate Liberals, the religious hate the atheists, and so on and so forth, and visa versa. Why? It confuses me greatly how anyone could dedicate their life to the hatred of another. Besides the obvious repercussions it has on society, it is a horrid waste of a life! When you have so much potential to learn, how can you let hate take over and guide your existence? If we only get one chance, shouldn't we make the best of it?

I know there are people here with first hand experience, after all, I do read the threads. Without being threatening, I'd like to invite those people to enlighten me. Look deep inside yourself, if you find that you truly hate someone, please tell me why. I'm only here to learn.

Anyone have thoughts? Can we ever learn to "just get along"?
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Alessandro
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:33 pm

Have you read the "naked ape"? its about a study where the British author
study humans in the same way humans study animals. He compare the mega
cities population with animals in cages.
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sebolino
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 5:58 pm

That's just and simply the very true nature of human beings.
We are nothing more than intelligent animals and when we feel oppressed (especially in the big cities where we don't have enoug place) we become aggressive.
I think there's no mystery about it.

On a larger scale, we feel the need to dominate. Of course we can try to fight against this instinct.
Some countries have difficulties to do it (guess which).
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 6:22 pm

This appears to be a rather conservative topic. Welcome to the force We're Nuts. I had been saving you a spot all along!  Big thumbs up
 
Marco
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 6:29 pm

The religious don't hate the athiests. It's more like it's the other way around. I posted my opinion about God without offending anyone and I was instantly attacked by Klaus. The religious don't hate anyone, we're just trying to protect ourselves and stand up for our beliefs.
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KROC
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:18 pm

The religious don't hate anyone, we're just trying to protect ourselves and stand up for our beliefs.

Just like the Athiests are standing up for their beliefs? The religious tend to be VERY intolerant of those that don't believe. Not all religious, and apparently not you, but there is a term called "Bible Thumpers" for a reason...
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:24 pm

Just like the Athiests are standing up for their beliefs? The religious tend to be VERY intolerant of those that don't believe. Not all religious, and apparently not you, but there is a term called "Bible Thumpers" for a reason...

KROC I do agree with you, some Christians can be annoying towards non-Christians. I have had experiences with some myself. I'm not against athiests expressing their views, I'm all for freedom of religion/speech, but I don't appreciate athiests calling Christians ignorant people or lunatics (as Klaus has done). I have never attacked athiests and I certainly wouldn't judge someone like that ever! That's what I mean. Respect should be for everybody!
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:30 pm

I'm all for freedom of religion/speech, but I don't appreciate athiests calling Christians ignorant people or lunatics (as Klaus has done). I have never attacked athiests and I certainly wouldn't judge someone like that ever! That's what I mean. Respect should be for everybody!

Very well said. My faith is restored!  Big grin
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:32 pm

True Sebolino, also add that humans are on the top of the food chain, so to
be aggressive is partly due to survival in the past (or even today)....
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Marco
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:33 pm

Thanks KROC....

I hope you didn't think I was a Bible-thumper Big grin

muhahahaha Acting devilish
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 7:47 pm

Here is a beautiful web page showing how them crazy Muslims start them young, keep em stupid and feed them lies. Notice the little girl with blood on her hands. Do you think they have peace in their hearts? It's in Islamic but you can look at the cool pictures.

http://www.jislamia.org/news/new04.htm

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Hepkat
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:32 pm

I think it all has to do with fear. Fear stems from ignorance, meaning we are afraid of that which we don't know or cannot comprehend.

Knowledge truly sets us free.
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 pm

I think its to do with GREED. We are all greedy and want everything our way, this leads to anger and then violence and then ultimately death.

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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:45 pm

But greed comes from fear. To be greedy is to try to hoard everything for one's self out of the fear of one day running short.
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:54 pm

But whereever you see a conflict, there seems to be a party who wants something in return, something that they think is there's, or want it to be there's.

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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:02 am

When there's way too many people on Earth, there will always be too much hate.

That's nature at work. Eventually, through one way or another, if nature isn't allowed to thin the herd...hate will.
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:39 am

Hate is the natural evolution of aggression and territoriality. Humans no longer have to preoccupy ourselves with fulfilling our basic survival needs. So, that time is allocated to other activities. Humans have become more and more cerebral. We no longer adapt to our environment, instead, we adapt the environment to us. The eventual outcome of this is an increased amount of social interactions and behavior. This leads to ideological conflicts and when mixed with the "hard wired" aggression and territoriality, you get "hate."

Hate does not meet any survival needs. It's just what we do in our newfound spare time.

Or maybe it was just a snake and an apple.


P.S. Another good read is The Human Zoo by Desmond Morris
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 1:42 am

Exitrow, its the same book isn´t it? Same author anyway Desmond Morris...
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 1:56 am

Alessandro,
Same author, different book. The Human Zoo discusses how contemporary humans are still affected by evolutionary, instinctual drives. (ie: why we help strangers when there's no direct benefit to us, why guys drive flashy fast cars etc...)

Very insightful book. I highly recommend it.

 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:19 am

I can say many things like jealousy, prejudice, selfishness, and whatever else there is to say; yet I see that no one has brought up the point of denial. Everyone can talk about greed, fear, ignorance, and whatnot, but if you bring it down to a personal standpoint, from which all hatred comes from, denial seems to me to be the root cause for all the things you guys are talking about. If people realized they aren't by any means perfect and invincible, they might also start to realize that when people do make attacks on themselves, the attackers are just being fools. That's kind of a coarse argument, as it is very hard to explain, but hopefully some of you will know what I mean.
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 2:50 am

Saw something today at wimbledon.org that surprised me a lot, a male doubles team with a Pakistani
and an Israeli, not bad. Hope they win the tournament!
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:07 am

Religion.

Person1: My religion is better than yours

Person2: No its not mine is

Person1: OK thats it diiiiieee

...or something along those lines.
 
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sat Jun 29, 2002 3:32 am

Great replies so far. Knowledge truly does set us free, but some people willingly deny themselves that knowledge. That still confuses me. It's like they would rather have hatred destroy their lives than listen to any sort of reason! And we don't just find these people in places where religion is overwhelming... A.net has plenty of them! People who think Liberals are out to destroy the world, or Conservatives want to control it. Neither is true, but believing the lies makes these people "happy". I don't buy it. Hate is like a drug, it gives a false sense of happiness and belonging, and once that wears off, you turn into its slave.
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sun Jun 30, 2002 5:15 am

C'mon, we had some great ideas, lets keep the discussion going!
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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sun Jun 30, 2002 5:21 am

Lack of knowledge is another factor - People do not understand or don't want to understand the implications of hate/violence and anger, it almost certainly leads to death and destruction, look at the Israeli/Palestine issue, death and destruction is the norm over there. Once anger has been instilled in someone or some party, then it becomes an obsession to continue this anger in order to fullfil their satisfaction and desire in some way or another, even if that violence and anger is not leading them anywhere or any closer to their objection (Palestine).

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RE: Why So Much Hate In The World?

Sun Jun 30, 2002 6:25 am

We're Nuts, people don't want to be educated sometimes.....thats why those people will always stay ignortant and not live a wonderful positive life. They want to stay miserable and just can't see past tomorrow. Its like they don't have any hope. I try feel for them. When people are at their worse....its truly there best lesson. If you can get a glimpse of yourself when you are doing whatever action you are doing......it will stop you dead in your tracks. Become AWARE of what you say.....and why you say it? Become aware of what you do everyday....you'll be shocked about how much you let go buy without even realizing it.

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