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$7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 3:54 am

The city's new budget goes into effect on Monday. I'm glad I don't smoke.  Smile
 
Rai
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 4:12 am

Oh yeah? I do! Thank God there's Jersey!
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 4:42 am

7US$ for 20 cigarettes? I don´t smoke either, but the prize seem to be high
enough to invite smugglers. Didn´t Hamas profit from cigarette smuggling in
the US?
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:32 am

$7 for cigarrettes? Yikes! Pretty soon weed will have a cheaper going rate than cigarrettes. I wonder if people will switch.  Confused
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:38 am

Never smoked in my life, hate it, think people who do it around me are rude. But this ridiculous price is "sin taxing" gone mad. It just invites the already burgeoning black market to blossom more.

And while we're at it, I would venture to guess that heart disease brought on by poor diet kills as many if not more Americans than cigarettes.

A pack of cigs cost 7 bucks in NYC. What's a Big Mac cost?
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:42 am

Heavymetal asks:
What's a Big Mac cost?

Same as everywhere else...unless you live in Manhattan...
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:43 am

Rai...

Just market price or is there really a health related tax attached to the price? (he asked incredulously)
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:48 am

This is a new tax to help us with the huge deficit we incurred because of lost tax revenue as a result of 9/11. The mayor doesn't want to raise income taxes, so he's looking at other options to generate revenue.

If you really want to buy cigarettes, hop over to Jersey. You can get them for $3.50 a pack.
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 9:06 am

I suppose the cause is worthy. There is nothing that arrives with the air of permanence more than the phrase "new tax".
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 10:53 am

Soon they will be an even $5 (or $5.25, depending where you buy them. It'll be $5.25 for me.) here in Jersey. Right now, I get them for $4.75. Save your quarters.
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 11:34 am

In my province up here in Canada smokes are about $10 CAD a pack after a new tax the province put into effect. They used to be $6 CAD or about $3.25 USD. Now the feds are going to add another tax to it to bring it even higher. Well, I couldn't give rats ass as I don't smoke. But a lot of people are quitting!!
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 1:05 pm

This is a new tax to help us with the huge deficit we incurred because of lost tax revenue as a result of 9/11. The mayor doesn't want to raise income taxes, so he's looking at other options to generate revenue.

9/11 is just an excuse. The amount of economic damage which NYC suffered as a result of 9/11 is a microscopic fraction of the damage which it has suffered as a result of 1199.*
* = District 1199, the hospitals and health care employees' union, which has completely sucked the life out of the city.
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:25 pm

Is this just a city tax? So, depending on where you live in the city, you could just drive over the nearest border into a suburb and buy cigarettes there without paying the tax? I imagine a lot of shop keepers out near the Queens/LI border are not too happy about this. Imagine all the money they'll be losing when all the people go over into the burbs to by cigs.

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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 2:34 pm

VonRichtoven says:
In my province up here in Canada smokes are about $10 CAD a pack after a new tax the province put into effect. They used to be $6 CAD or about $3.25 USD. Now the feds are going to add another tax to it to bring it even higher. Well, I couldn't give rats ass as I don't smoke. But a lot of people are quitting!!

When I lived in Alberta, it was $5 a pack. It's amazing how much it's gone up since then.

PROSA says:
9/11 is just an excuse. The amount of economic damage which NYC suffered as a result of 9/11 is a microscopic fraction of the damage which it has suffered as a result of 1199.*
* = District 1199, the hospitals and health care employees' union, which has completely sucked the life out of the city.


Actually, we WERE in pretty sound financial shape prior to 9/11. Our economy was starting to pick up again last August. How do I know? I used to work for the Mayor's Office of Management and Budget, so it was my job to know. I'd like to know where you get your information. Don't believe everything the papers tell you.
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Sun Jun 30, 2002 8:10 pm

I smoke cigarettes! And am not ashamed to state it. Ha, maybe I should start a "I Smoke Tobacco" thread...

Nar, I started when I was 16 and 2 weeks in 1995, and between then and the beginning of 1999 I probably bought about 15 packets of 25. But once I recommenced studying for grade 12, I was around people who smoked inbetween lessons. So I was up to about 3 packs of 25 {Benson & Hedges special filter} plus one povvo stricken, el cheapo packet of 20s {superkings red} per fortnight. And it's been the same since the beginning of 1999. I haven't had any health repurcussions, but that doesn't mean I won't- and if there are people out there thinking of taking up cigarettes, it doesn't mean you won't be affected by smoking.

The costs translate per packet: Benson and Hedges for 25 cost about 9.50 average= USD$5.35 , and Superkings about $6.50= USD$3.66 for a pack of 20.

I'm not someone who will smoke around nonsmokers uninvited, and even when they say it is ok I rarely do. Around other smokers is ok, but I always ask first, unless they light up. If a nonsmoker comes up to me to talk {eg mum}
I always put the cigarette out, even if I have just had one drag. It's my decision to smoke, and I know it's bad healthwise, but I like it. I certainly don't make other people live with my decisions and/or lifestyle.

You see, there are mature smokers, and immature smokers. Mature smokers respect the rights of the nonsmoker to distance themselves from cigarette smoke. Immature smokers, and I have met dozens of them {and let me tell you I hate each and every one of them} behave as if nonsmokers should give smokers more rights- as in the case of the tradesman who my family called to fix the bathroom, turned up and came on in, cigarette alight in mouth, putting smoke all through the house, and continued to do so for a week. No one smokes inside. I wasn't impressed. People like him make lots of people label a cigarette smoker as disrespectful f#c*wit.

Oh well, that was my rant.

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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Mon Jul 01, 2002 12:03 pm

PROSA says:
9/11 is just an excuse. The amount of economic damage which NYC suffered as a result of 9/11 is a microscopic fraction of the damage which it has suffered as a result of 1199.*
* = District 1199, the hospitals and health care employees' union, which has completely sucked the life out of the city.


Actually, we WERE in pretty sound financial shape prior to 9/11. Our economy was starting to pick up again last August. How do I know? I used to work for the Mayor's Office of Management and Budget, so it was my job to know. I'd like to know where you get your information. Don't believe everything the papers tell you.

Sound financial shape does not mean that resources were woefully misallocated. NYC spends more money on indigent health care than the entire state of California, which has more than four times the population. Per-capita spending in NYC is below the national large-city average in education, parks, transportation, and in fact in almost every area except health care - where it's vastly greater than average.
I have a very interesting report, prepared by a man I know slightly who worked at the Department of City Planning, that goes into some detail as to this misallocation of resources on both a state and city level. It's makes for very sobering reading. If you'd like, I can e-mail you a copy.
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Mon Jul 01, 2002 12:14 pm

Peter: I'd be interested in the report, so send it over. My address is in my profile. NYC hospitals are run by the Health and Hospitals Corporation (HHC). It is a private/public venture that gets a lot of money from the state, the feds and the city. I personally never dealt with that issue, but I know people who have. A good friend of mine still works in OMB's corresponding HHC/Health unit. You may be right that they overspend compared to other places -- but then I hear they are really good people to work for (lax hours, excellent salary, phenomenal benefits and little work). HHC seems to have a lot of autonomy compared to other city agencies. Then again, it isn't exactly a city agency. I'll have to do a bit of research on this issue and ask around. If anyone can verify that report, it's OMB's Health unit.
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Mon Jul 01, 2002 12:21 pm

It really doesn't matter to me how much cigarettes cost in NYC because first of all I don't smoke and second of all I live on the other side of the country in Washington state.
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Mon Jul 01, 2002 1:26 pm

People in other states should worry because there is a big anti-smoking campaign going on. On TV every five minutes you see a commercial talking about the dangers of smoking.
 
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:18 am

"$7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC"

Good! Anything that will get those who think they "need" cigarettes to go and across the state line while wasting their gas money just to buy it cheaper should realize that it is not worth it soon enough. It should be higher everywhere.

Don't you hate these people when they end up being in a burning house they 'expect' firefighters to save them from a house full of smoke? They are in their heaven...heck I'll bet there are fewer toxins in burning house smoke than a pack of cigarettes. Big grin

If a smoker complains about pollution or the environment, you'll see me chasing them with a brick screaming, "C'mere ya hypocrite-@ss!"  Big thumbs up
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RE: $7.00 For Cigarettes In NYC

Tue Jul 02, 2002 9:24 am

$7.00 isn't high enough.
I think $20 a pack is a fair price.
I hope the rest of the nation follows New York.

Smokers are some of the most whinny people out there.
They complain because the cost.
They complain about the tax.
They complain about not smoking in resturants when people are trying to eat.
They complain about no smoking in bars.
They complain about no smoking on airplanes.
They complain about no smoking near federal buldings.
Then they complain once they get lung cancer!


Yet people are serving hard time with murders just for having some marijuana.

Double standards!  Pissed
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