lubcha132
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Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:04 am

what do you think the biggest mistake in world history was?
 
david b.
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:05 am

Vit War, Bay of pigs followed by Somalia. Those three were absolut disasters.
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:08 am

does this count?

fuddle duddle
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:09 am

 Smile That reminds me..........Tenerife
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:12 am

DAMN

What is Jacko doing here?

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:15 am

My birth.

Signed,
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:17 am

I can think of other users........... Smile
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:17 am

Biggest Blunder In World History?

Well, this is Osama Bin Laden's father. Many years ago someone on the street sold him some defective sheep-skin condoms and, well, the rest is history.


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lubcha132
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:18 am

i thought his father was a big cheese in the construction business.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:19 am

They could afford condoms?  Smile WOW
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:22 am

hmmm....Chamberlins "peace" appeasement at Munich..lol..what an idiot! "PEACE IS AT HAND PEACE IS AT HAND!!!" Not to mention selling out another country like that is just wrong...poor czechs
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:26 am

Adam eating the apple.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:30 am

Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:32 am

 Smile Nothing beats the worst movie in history
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:37 am

David B.:
I almost posted that picture! Big grin
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:37 am

Of course, you'd think the U.S. made the biggest blunders of all time. They don't come close, son.

The biggest blunder of all time? Hitler invading the Soviet Union in 1941.

Big mistake. Big, BIG mistake.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:49 am

Alpha1:
My post was intended to be a joke.
Yes, Hitler's atrocities is an obvious blunder.
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:54 am

Joke my man.........Joke  Insane
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:56 am

Gee, David, usually when you're joking, you indicate that somehow, you know? I don't think myself it was a joke, but I will accept your explaination nevertheless.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:04 pm

Christian missionaries in Africa.

And that damnable Michael Jackson picture!

**shudder**

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:05 pm

Alpha1:
My 'Cool As Ice' post was in no way inteneded on being an Anti-American post.

Calm down and live a little pal.  Smile
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:07 pm

Letting ILS bach in this.

LOL

Really, umm... I'd say WWII was a whole.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:12 pm

WWII did some good. I say the cold war and the war in Somalia. In WWII we kicked ass in Somalia we got our asses kicked.
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 9:39 pm

What Michael Jackson pic?
All I see is a little red cross.  Insane
Can someone post it again so I can see? Big grin
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 10:53 pm

In Somalia, had our forces been allowed to use heavy weapons like M1-A1 MBT's, then it would have been different.

The attack on Pearl Harbor was one of the biggest blunders ever made. Japan threw any chance of a negotiated settlement right out the window. It became war to the death. There was no way Japan could win a war of attrition with the United States. Also, as soon as Germany declared war on the United States, she sealed her fate.
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 10:59 pm

B757300, with all respect, Germany had sealed its fate when it launched Operation Barbarossa against the Soviet Union that summer. Hitler underestimated the fact that, landwise, the U.S.S.R. would just swallow up his forces, and secondly, he underestimated the fighting spirit of the Soviet soldiers-and he further did not appreciate the pool of manpower available to the U.S.S.R. to wage a long-term campaign. Germany didn't have the unlimited manpower that the Soviets did. THAT was the undoing of Germany.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:06 pm

If ya look at the numbers from somalia, it was they who got the shit end of the stick
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:12 pm

The biggest mistake was getting out of the water, happened about 2 billion years ago.
Even now watery creatures have all the fun!
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:16 pm

Any Rush Album!!! LOL, j/k Superfly.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:23 pm

David B. Somalia was not a war.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Fri Jul 12, 2002 11:43 pm

1. Adolf Hitler
2. Stalin
3. Alpha 1
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 12:05 am

Dunkirk was the biggest blunder in Military History IMO. The inquisitions were possibly the biggest blunder with respect to religion and the splitting of the atom with respect to the secular world.

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 12:08 am

Clarify TechRep: was Dunkirk a blunder for the Allies or for Germany?

And Racko, you can stick it where the sun don't shine, fella.  Big grin
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 12:15 am

That would be a blunder for the Germans who allowed the Brits to cross the channel. They could have effectively eliminated the Brits at that point, the Brits were allowed to cross almost unmolested. They Brits probably could have been taken out of WWII at that point and their back broken, invasion could have been swift and quick for the Germans IMO.

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 12:32 am

Had Hilter defeated the west at Dunkirk by eliminating some 380,000 Brit and French troops who effectively had no air support or heavy equipment to defend itself, the subsequent invasion of Russia in 1941 which was stopped some 40KM short of Moscow probably would have been successful. The additional element's of the Germany Army mostly heavy armor and Air Support would have sealed Moscows fate. The surrender of Moscow and the elimination of the Major Command arm of the Red Army could have ended WWII by 1942-43. Without a proper command structure Russian troops might have capitulated, which they were notorious for doing when command failed.

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 1:31 am

How about the Native Americans selling Manhattan to some colonists for a few beads and trinkets?
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 1:59 am

We're talking WORLD HISTORY guys, not the past century.

I'd have to say something along the lines of the Spanish Inquisition. Such a pointless destruction of knowledge and scientific advancement.

or

Possibly the burning of the Great Library in Rome (or Greece, I forget). Imagine what we could learn if we had those manuscripts today.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 2:55 am

Blunder number one....Germany invading Russia.

Blunder number two...someone putting dopey Carson Daly on TV and trying to convince us he has actual talent...

JH
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 3:08 am

Hmm, TechRep, I'm not sure I agree with you about Dunkirk, purely because had Germany pushed on and wiped out most of the British forces it would have cost about 200,000 troops (some would have got away), but Germany would still have been unable to invade Britain because the RAF would still have stopped them. However, the political climate might have been such that Britain would have sued for peace. Certainly being able to portray the event as a victory rather than a defeat (though defeat it was, just not as bad as it could have been) steeled the British resolve and made them determined to fight on at all costs. However, in the Battle of Britain, the decision to switch from attacks on airfields and radar to attacks on the cities was a major blunder. In all of these situations it is easy to see where the Germans went wrong, but very hard to pin down one event as being decisive.

You may disagree with that analysis, it is, after all impossible to prove. But worth thinking about, nevertheless.

As for the invasion of Russia, what made that even worse was that Napoleon had done exactly the same thing over a hundred years before, with the same outcome. With the benefit of hindsight it can be said that Germany was almost certain to lose that campaign anyway sooner or later, unless, again, the political situation came into play.

I don't agree that Pearl Harbor was a mistake. Japan intended to be the pre-eminent power in the Pacific, and would have come into collision with the US sooner or later. That being a given, the attack on Pearl Harbor was militarily sound, and gave them their only chance of success. The fact that it was ultimately unsuccessful doesn't change that.
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 3:21 am

Two words: Scrappy Doo

 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 3:23 am

Whatever anyone says, without WWII, Korea, Vietnam and the Cold War we simply would not be where we are technoligically today.
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 3:39 am

"Hitler underestimated the fact that, landwise, the U.S.S.R. would just swallow up his forces, and secondly, he underestimated the fighting spirit of the Soviet soldiers-and he further did not appreciate the pool of manpower available to the U.S.S.R. to wage a long-term campaign. Germany didn't have the unlimited manpower that the Soviets did. THAT was the undoing of Germany."

Alpha 1 dont forget the Russian winter. Hitlers troops left 2 months late because of rains, if they left then they would have gotten stuck in the mud with the heavy equipment and move slower but made it before the winter.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 4:03 am

The biggest blunder in World history was reparations against Germany after WWI. The Allies made Germany essentially a pauper state that was constantly on the brink of anarchy, because most of their economy was being used to pay for the sins of war. It was this economic condition, civil and social unrest that allowed Adolf Hitler and the National Democratic Socialist Party to assume ever increasing power that led to the dictatorship and the Third Reich, and eventually lead to the Second World War. Had the Allies done after WWI what they did after WWII, there probably would not have been a Second World War, and Hitler probably would have become famous for his paintings rather than for the atrocities his regime enacted.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 5:05 am

Regarding Hitler invading Russia. It was a good blunder. If Hitler had invaded Russia during the summer, I don't even know what would have happened.

Biggest Blunder-
probably Rap and Hip Hop music  Acting devilish

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 5:42 am

MTV.
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Srbmod

Sat Jul 13, 2002 6:31 am

Srbmod: The biggest blunder in World history was reparations against Germany after WWI.

Quite true!  Sad
It was understandable, but still a bad mistake.

Srbmod: Adolf Hitler and the National Democratic Socialist Party

Actually, the name NSDAP meant "national socialist german labour party". Note the omission of "democratic" as Hitler was always full of contempt for democracy in any form.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 10:32 am

A lot of people are saying Germany invading the USSR is history's biggest blunder. I disagree, invading Poland and starting the whole war was History's biggest blunder.

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 10:57 am

The Battle of The Bulge.

Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait.

Thinking the Titanic was unsinkable and abusing that "fact" by not having enough lifeboats for all the passengers.

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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 11:05 am

"Regarding Hitler invading Russia. It was a good blunder. If Hitler had invaded Russia during the summer, I don't even know what would have happened"

I can answer that. 7th period German class and 2nd period salutation class.

"A lot of people are saying Germany invading the USSR is history's biggest blunder. I disagree, invading Poland and starting the whole war was History's biggest blunder."

Personally I agree with the statement. To me a bigger blunder was when Stalin came to power in the USSR. He killed more people than Hitler.
 
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RE: Biggest Blunder In World History

Sat Jul 13, 2002 11:16 am

The creation of tobacco products.

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