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Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 3:55 pm

One Question...............WHY????

You wouldn't catch me running away from any stark raving mad run-free-for-a-day bull or bulls purely for the fact that I wouldn't be down there in the first place.

I know its Spanish tradition but its soooo dangerous and this year went without and problems except the fact that people thought they could fly when they got "rammed" by a lunatic bull!!

I like watching it but wouldn't be on the street when they're let out!

Maybe the Spanish could explain this one??

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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 4:02 pm



I would assume it is for a similar reason....
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 6:49 pm

It was tradition.
They used to do it in Pamplona for the San Firmino party since centuries.
I read on a statistic that from 1926 to nowadays 13 people died in the bull running in Pamplona.
 
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:52 pm

It's a tradition, but not only in Pamplona. These bull-runnings are done in a lot of villages in Spain.
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 7:57 pm

But its dangerous right?

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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 8:09 pm

It was tradition, today it's just for mad tourists who want to have fun.
 
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 9:50 pm

Yes, dangerous. Like "corridas de toros", more or less is the same, the reason of this is just to get the bull tired and confused, and finally they kill it. I don't think this is for tourists, in fact, people from Pamplona don't like sleepy and drunk tourists to run forward the bulls. And if you look at the statistics, I'm pretty sure that most deaths in San Fermín are tourists.

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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Mon Jul 15, 2002 10:41 pm

I consider it cruel and unusual punishment for the bulls and for those idiots who get gored...oh well.

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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Tue Jul 16, 2002 5:57 pm

This is pure barbarism. These are the traditions of the past alright. But they are linked with the times when slavaes were thrown into the stadiums along with hungry lions in the name of entertainment. Though the world has abandoned it now, this one continues. You may say that the people included are voulanteers but then what about the poor bull???? Killed in the name of entertainment???
 
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Tue Jul 16, 2002 6:03 pm

I don't agree with killing bulls for sport either, these days no ones throwing the people in the to the bulls so I say if they get killed then so be it!! But they shouldn't kill the bull afterwards!

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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Tue Jul 16, 2002 6:36 pm

I don't like these traditions too, in fact in Spain, lots of people are against this, not because killing the bull (don't you like hamburgers?), but for the way is done.
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Tue Jul 16, 2002 8:20 pm

Yeah i like em but it dont bother me so much when it comes all "flat-packed" and "ready-to-eat" instead of having to go out there and see it being killed!!
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Tue Jul 16, 2002 8:45 pm

Completely agree with ya AMSMAN.
 
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Wed Jul 17, 2002 8:08 am

Los españoles - ¡son locos!
 
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Wed Jul 17, 2002 3:52 pm

One thing:

Los españoles NO están locos...

It's just a cultural thing...

I'm Mexican but my parents are Spanish.

Mexico is a bullfighting country, we have the largest Bullfighting Ring in the world, in San Miguel de Allende we have the same tradition as in Pamplona, Spain. We even call that day "La Pamplonada". It's just to celebrate San Fermin's Day on July 7th.

There is people in some Bullfighting countries like Mexico, Spain, Ecuador or Colombia who think that killing bulls just by entertainment is purely barbarism, (my mother is one of them) but there is another part of the population who thinks that is one of the great traditions in our cultures. (My father, RIP, was one of them)

Maybe they're right... Maybe it's purely barbarism, but believe me I've been witness of countless discussions about it... Just to get to one point... People who like bullfights go to the bullfighting ring... People who don't just stay away of it...

Eventhough I completely respect and understand all of your thoughts and your statements... If you ask for my personal opinion I would answer I like Bullfights mainly because the whole idea of a "Matador" being with such an impressive animal like a bull is a matter of respect and I see that almost like a "bare hands" fight.

As I wrote before, some people don't like it some people do... So, PLEASE, don't post any offensive or immature comments about how insane Spanish are. Because I am not going to reply them.

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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Thu Jul 18, 2002 1:14 am

Okay okay, I feel I must defend my post here. It was tongue in cheek - I love the Spanish, Spain and everything Hispanic, and am startingmy degree in Hispanic Studies in September. As usual on A.net, irony is not blunt enough to be detected, or just ignoredcted, or just ignored.
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Thu Jul 18, 2002 7:25 am





What's another word for thesaurus?
 
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RE: Bull Running In Spain?

Thu Jul 18, 2002 7:38 am

To be honest, being half-latin myself, and of Spanish descent, I think this tradition is rather stupid; the same goes for foxhunting in Britain.

My personal opinion is that these traditions, and other similar ones, will eventually die out when today's younger generation grow up into adulthood, and realise that maintaining these activites in the name of 'tradition' is not a convincing case.

With respect to 'barbarism'. I'm not sure I would go that far, in the strict sense of the word, but it certainly seems cruel. To be honest, we as humans are quite happy to kill each other for nothing, so the fact that bull runs and foxhunting are still around is not surprising in the least, as far as I'm concerned.

If we can't even resolve our differences without killing each other en masse (we're all humans godammit!), how can we ever expect to eradicate cruel behaviour towards other animals? That's just my opinion.

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