airplanetire
Posts: 1783
Joined: Sun May 13, 2001 11:59 pm

Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:58 am

I have come to a decision by now that I do not want to live in the United States when I grow up. It's not that I don't like my country, but I'm so interested in other countries and other cultures that I want to live in another country. There are some cities in particular that I'd like to live in though. Could you give me some info on these cities in regard to living there? Based on these cities, what cities are similar that you think I might enjoy? I have been to a few of these (only a few of the European ones) so that's how I decided on those, and on the others, I've just seen on TV and in magazines and heard about them, and was interested. Here are the cities (in no particular order):

Sydney
Paris
Zurich
Amsterdam
Madrid
Singapore
Bangkok
Hong Kong
Tokyo
Moscow
Dubai
Doha
Almaty (strange sounding, I know)
Prague
Warsaw
Vienna


Any information on any of these cities in regards to what it is like living there would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much to those of you who respond! I really do appreciate it.

Regards,
Airplanetire
 
Boeing4ever
Posts: 4479
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2001 12:06 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 12:00 pm

Choose Warsaw! It's a great city! I've been there many times! And their airport has an observation deck that's right above the jetways! You can see all the action going on from the gates to the runways!

B4e
 
Rai
Posts: 1697
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:12 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 12:17 pm

Based on where you live, I don't blame you for wanting to leave the U.S., but you're still young and have lots of years ahead of you to make a decision...

But anyways...

Sydney: Never been there, but would love to go. I have heard nothing but great things about the place. I will definitely check it out sometime.

Paris: Kinda overrated and very expensive. People are somewhat rude and stubborn. Has great culture, great women, great clubs and nice restaurants and, of course, CDG.

Zurich: I found it kinda sterile.

Amsterdam: AWESOME! Great people! Great times! Sort of expensive.

Madrid: So-so...very nice people, but not as nice as Barcelona.

Singapore: I might be going there this summer. I heard it's super clean, but not much in terms of a club scene.

Bangkok: My friend's roommate said Thailand is the best country ever! Of course, he's a young single male, so there must be a reason why...

Hong Kong: Simply put, THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CITY IN THE WORLD! I totally fell in love with that place and would love to live there for a few years. People are kind of rude, it's super crowded (I don't mind that though) and it's expensive, but it's got so much energy and vibrance. Not the shopping heaven it once was, but CLK and cute Chinese girls make up for it.  Big grin Also, has the BEST expat community in the world. It seems like they look out for eachother and that you can make quite a few friends within that community...

Tokyo: If I don't stop by Singapore, I will stop in Tokyo. I've heard mixed things about it. Most people seem to complain about the pollution and crowds (it is the biggest city in the world) and that it's super expensive (most expensive city in the world). On the bright side, people love the food, culture and the women...

Moscow: I would love to go there. Nothing but the utmost respect for the Russian people. I hear it's kinda dangerous though.

Dubai: I'd like to check it out too. I heard it's a great place to make money and very clean, but guys make up 70% of the population...

Doha: Couldn't tell you.

Almaty (strange sounding, I know): Have no idea.

Prague: Beautiful city with beautiful women. Fun and affordable!

Warsaw: Don't know much about it.

Vienna: I think Austria in general is overrated. It's a beautiful city with lots of arts and culture, but not my cup of tea.

Also, check out Berlin, Frankfurt and London.
 
User avatar
STT757
Posts: 13223
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2000 1:14 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 12:30 pm

Well it says in your profile you love Russia, well go to Russia then.

Just don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
 
airplanetire
Posts: 1783
Joined: Sun May 13, 2001 11:59 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 12:37 pm

Thank you very much for your responses. Rai, I guess I would rule Madrid out now if Barcelona is better than it. I was in Barcelona in June and thought it was a great city and one I would go back to, just not my kind of place for living in. I won't totally rule out Madrid though. I need to see it first. I've been to Paris twice (once on the same trip as Barcelona) and it's by far my favorite city. I've been in the ZRH airport, but that doesn't count. Those are the only 3 I've been to. I think my #1 is Hong Kong though, so I'm glad that you said such good things about it.
 
ryanb741
Posts: 5058
Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:36 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 5:40 pm

Out of those cities in your list I have been to all of them apart from Almaty.

I would say for quality of life Bangkok is the best city, whilst Paris is the most beautiful.
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
 
CPDC10-30
Posts: 4681
Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2000 4:30 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 5:53 pm

I don't know why people keep going on about how Parisians are so "rude" because I've never experienced it myself yet. If you can speak at least a little bit of French they treat you very nicely...and they are much easier to understand than the Quebecois accents over here  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

The public transit system in Paris is one of the best in the world, with both commuter rail (RER) and metro stations in every corner of the city. You would be crazy to want to own a car if you live there - not only for the expense but just that it would be really needless.

I didn't find that any "everyday" items there except soft drinks were signifigantly more expensive than what I normally pay in Toronto. However the rental rates a a bit higher - as are the energy cost. Groceries are cheaper however.
 
brianhames
Posts: 743
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2000 2:22 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 24, 2002 6:13 pm

Tokyo all the way. It's a great city. I only saw one homeless bum while I was there!
 
Guest

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Thu Jul 25, 2002 6:42 am

How about Istanbul... Certainly the most beautiful city in the world in my opinion. And from what I gather, culture, nightlife, women and living expenses are the top priorities. If that is the case, the culture is of course unbeatable (capital to two of the world's greatest empires, only city in the world on two continents etc.) the nightlife is certainly on par with places like Barcelona and Paris, if not Bangkok, and the women are gorgeous. It's pretty inexpensive too. And by the way, for a city its size (~10 million) it has a remarkably low crime rate. It's pretty safe all around. So I highly recommend it to all who are thinking of moving.
 
srbmod
Posts: 15446
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 1:32 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Thu Jul 25, 2002 7:47 am

How about Craggy Island? It's just off the coast of Ireland on the Irish Sea, right near where the English dump the old glow in the dark.

This Message Has Been Brought to You by the Craggy Island Board of Tourism
 
kl713
Posts: 748
Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2001 2:48 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Thu Jul 25, 2002 7:57 am

I would recommend Amsterdam big time! only problem here is......everything has become more expensive since the beginning of the Euro-currency.....so beware of that.....life in Amsterdam isn't that cheap anymore....It seems that Amsterdam is at the moment one of the most expensive European cities to live in.....not a good thing.....but altough...I still love it here!!  Big thumbs up

want to know more about the city and its things?

http://020.pagina.nl

It's a Dutch gateway to almost every site related to the (beautiful) city of Amsterdam.....
732 733 734 73G 738 739 742 743 744 752 763 77E 773 77W 319 320 332 333 343 388 M11 146 DH4
 
NUAir
Posts: 1144
Joined: Thu Jun 08, 2000 4:24 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Thu Jul 25, 2002 4:43 pm

The public transportation is great in Paris?????

Are you talking about Paris Texas? Because there is no way you are talking about the strike plagued, filthy, homeless shelters that close earlier then most people go out and are replaced by strike plagued, filthy, homeless shelters called night busses... God I dread my commute to work everyday!! Its kind of like hell on earth so if your a satanist it might be perfect for you!

And yes Parisians are ass holes! If you like nice people don't go to Paris.

If you want the perfect most beautiful city in the world with the best transportation system move to Stockholm.

If you want the friendliest people go to Madrid (don't go to Barcelona to learn spanish!) or Amsterdam.

But if you really want to live your life and have great memories and stuff to talk about when your 80 go to Accra, Ghana or Dakar, Senegal. By far my favorite two places on earth.

Good luck wherever you end up! And if you need a place in Paris you can have mine I'm leaving!
"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
 
airplanetire
Posts: 1783
Joined: Sun May 13, 2001 11:59 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Fri Jul 26, 2002 2:24 am

Thank you all for your responses! I'm sorry that you feel that way about Parisians, NUAir. I find them to be very reserved, which might come off as rude to some, but still very nice if you at least attempt to try some French. They are very nice people.
 
EGGD
Posts: 11880
Joined: Sat Feb 24, 2001 12:01 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Fri Jul 26, 2002 2:40 am

Sydney - AWESOME city, I love it. Its just a very cool place, sunny 300 days a year, nice people, very cosmopolitan, lots to do, great airport.

Paris - Lots of great places to eat, not as exciting as Sydney, but a little more sophisticated

Zurich - Great airport, nothing overly exciting in the city, good chances to go skiing in the alps in winter though

Amsterdam - nice city, great airport, Red light district, lots of bars and clubs. Cool place  Smokin cool

Madrid - Don't know much about the place, not so good airport, not very interesting city AFAIK

Singapore - VERY nice place, but VERY VERY VERY expensive to live in, an average family size saloon is gonna cost you about $160,000 a year. Most people live in over priced small apartments. Very clean though, but more for shopping than anything else. Nice airport too!

Bangkok - Uhhh.. Its got a nice culture, a very nice market where you can have nice food for very little money. Some sides of the city aren't so nice (the royal orchid sheraton, where I stayed wasn't in the nicest part of town), not too sure of the economy and alot of unfinished hotels. Lets hope the airport is better than the current one Big grin

Hong Kong - Heard its a nice place, cool airport once again, very cosmopolitan, apparently still has some orient/chinese culture left (unlike Singapore).

Tokyo - This place is f*ck off huge. I think there is a specially-designed city just outside tokyo thats alot nicer.

Moscow - I've heard it can be a nice place, cool climate (freezing in the winter, hot in the summer). Nice people, crap cars, cool airport (if a bit crappy).

Dubai - very very hot!! Its quite an odd place, alot of very rich people living there.

Doha - I don't know much about Doha at all, except where it is.
Almaty (strange sounding, I know) - ......

Prague - I've heard its a nice place, very nice people, not as you'd expect a big city, quite picturesque.

Warsaw - I don't know much about Warsaw.

Vienna - Ask Peter Unmuth  Smokin cool


Dan  Smile
 
travelin man
Posts: 3198
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2000 10:04 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Fri Jul 26, 2002 2:49 am

There is only one other city (in or outside the US) that I've been to that I would live in a heartbeat: Sydney. Fantasatic weather, people, culture, things to do.

Sydney is simply incredible.
 
AMSMAN
Posts: 975
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 6:24 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Fri Jul 26, 2002 2:53 am

Love the post regarding Craggy Island I would LOVE to live there!!!

Good ol father ted
Aer Lingus, Proud to be Irish.
 
TWA902fly
Posts: 2869
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 1999 5:47 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Sat Jul 27, 2002 5:39 pm

well i don't suggest living in Moscow, people get mobbed, especially if they find out youre from America.

As for me i live in Chicago and I have a list of cities i'd maybe like to live in

1- Salt Lake City
2- Boston
3- Seattle
4- San Francisco/Bay Area
5- Anchorage
6- Phoenix
7- San Diego

i dont know past then

TWA902
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
 
Marco
Posts: 4005
Joined: Sun Jul 09, 2000 3:41 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:29 am

I lived in Dubai for nine years (1993-2002) and I can tell you that I was very glad when I moved. The city`s small, clean and nice. BUT IMO there are better places to live in. The problems with the city were, since expatriates make up most of the population there`s no national culture. People bring in their own cultures and as a result there`s really no system or way of doing things. Also, discrimination (of all kinds) is too evident (I know it exists everywhere but where else can you see a job advertisement for a `muslim only secretary`?) . Thirdly people are Fake with a capital F. If you've got money then you're respected, otherwise forget about it. People are very materialistic and to me the whole place was sorta fake. The gap between the rich and the poor is sometimes depressing. If you're a caucasian you can make $5,000 a month doing a simple job while an Indian will work for hours in the 50C (100% humidity) temperature and only get $200 a month. It's too weird.

I did enjoy the beaches though as well as the money (well my father's money). However Dubai is not my kind of place. While I don't regret having lived there, I wouldn't move back. The rulers are nice people and I'm happy that their country has become the country it is today!

Doha...no offence but you've gotta be kidding me. Dubai yes, but Doha? Please I won't even get into Doha! hehe...
Proud to be an Assyrian!
 
sccutler
Posts: 5582
Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2000 12:16 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:04 am

I think you'll find the real challenge in most any place outside the US, and in which you'd want tolive, will be securing permission to earn a living legally.

Most countries are substantially more strict about allowing immigrants to work upon arival than is the US. Australia is very restrictive in this regard, unless you have a skill which is compellingly in demand and such demand cannot be filled from within. Since Australia has, as a whole, a well-educated populace, the government is not easily swayed into allowing foreigners to easily take jobs (especially higher-level jobs) which could otherwise be filled with Aussies.

Remember, the grass is always greener, and "different" does not automatically mean, "Better." G'luck.
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
 
Rai
Posts: 1697
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:12 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:17 am

Very true, Sccutler. Before I moved to the U.S., I tried to getting working visas for the U.K and Australia so I could land a job there. No luck...
 
Guest

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:23 am

Well, my advice is that since everyone has slightly different tastes, best to visit those cities for yourself, and ignore all our posts... Big grin

But I see that by selecting cities in Europe and Sydney (both places I love-I'm moving to Sydney next year, btw) you're broadly on the right track.  Big grin

Don't forget that visiting a city can be very different to having to live in it...

Good luck, sorry for this rather lame post, but it's just my honest opinion...don't rely on second-hand facts...experience the reality.

Regards
 
FutureSQPilot
Posts: 144
Joined: Mon Jul 01, 2002 11:23 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 6:21 am

I can't say I've been to many of these places, but after college I plan to move out of the US for the same reason as you. I am thinking of Singapore atm...when I went there this summer I loved it and from what I saw I would move there in a heartbeat. I have heard great things about Hong Kong and Sydney as well. I like Tokyo, but it can be hard without knowing japanese, the living cost is very high, and as EGGD said it is F***ing huge.... It seems like I am in kind of the same position as you...and if I had my choice I would move to either Sydney, Hong Kong, or Singapore.
 
747-451
Posts: 2327
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2000 5:50 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 3:46 pm

I don't see what's so bad about ATL (where I am moving back to at the end of the year). You could live in NY and experience it all~~the excitement, culture, nightlife, great restaurants. (if you also have a stomach for high car insurance and very high rents and very very high unemployment)...

Hong Kong-simply the most exilerating place anywhere...has an even faster pace; rivals NY (it's like riding the tail of a comet!) A busy beautiful harbour. Modern skyscrappers. Shopping and neon on Nathan Road. The clubs in Wanchai. Antiques on Cat Street. The Stanley night markets. The malls at Silvercord, New World Center and Ocean Terminal/Harbor City. The Peninsula and Regent hotels-the place where status and wealth frolic. OceanPark/Waterworld. Victoria Peak. The tranquility of Lantau Island. Fantastic restaurants (Cinta and The American in Wanchai, Peking Garden in Tsim Sha Tsui). The Star ferry. Sorry Kai Tak is gone.. I could go on and on! (I was there in 1975, 1990 and 1995)

Singapore-Modern, cultured, business like and one of the most dignified.

Sydney-beautiful, cultured and the friednliest place with the warmest people.

Zurich-try Geneva instead.

Other beautiful places-Coppenhagen, Stockholm, Hamilton-Bermuda, Perth, Brisbane, Munich, Berlin Marseilles.

 
zauberfloete
Posts: 297
Joined: Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:07 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:25 pm

I would stay in the US if I where you. It's nowhere better.

You mentioned vienna.
I'm from vienna, I would like to tell you some facts you wont find anywhere else.

If you live in vienna, you will be suprised about the system of getting an appartment or flat.
You can rent a small appartment, at an overrated price, IF you are a member of the socialistic party AND you kissed a lot of arses.

To purchase an appartment at your own, is an idea that doesn't work out in vienna. We are not used to the idea of private property in vienna, no one can buy his/her own flat at a reasonable price (if you are financially able to purchase your own appartment in vienna, you are rich enough to buy a house in florida (you will get a nice house in naples at the same price of a small flat in vienna) so I think in that case you wont leave anyway).

If you live in vienna, you are in the paradox situation that you need to have a car in order to find a job, but you can't live with a car because the city of vienna doesn't want her citizens to have cars.
That means that in vienna all main roads are congested 24h a day, 7 days a weak;
that there is a so called "one way - labyrinth" existing in the city (if you are stuck in that labyrinth once you will never find your way out again and have to starve in your car);
there are no parking lots in vienna, just only tow away zones (there are spaces along the road that do look like parking lots, but they are in fact camouflaged tow-away-zones or so called "cash cows";
In the unlikely case you are lucky enough to find a legal parking lot you have to pay for it, about 1 $ / hour;

Some other interesting facts about vienna:
Vienniese people are stubborn. You will say you have met people like that before, but you haven't really unless you have met viennese people.
Viennese people are pessimistic to degree that is kind of pathologic. If you want to try or do anything in vienna, everyone will tell you that it will not work. That is also the reason why most viennese poeple are suffering from psychological depressions. We have twice the number of suicides over the number of lethal car accidents per year.
No wonder Sigmund Freud came from vienna.
If you are from america your will have it very hard in vienna.
The average viennese or austrian thinks that americans are stupid and uncivilised (I don't know why, but it's true. Only a minority of austrians like america and its citizens, but that minority usually loves the US. Most people in austria don't like the USA, I´m sorry to say that, I think its related to the second world war and to the fact that a lot of people in austria feel themselves attracted to socialism or communism -> and therefore they like moscow and russia, but dislike the US).
I think someone from the US wil find it difficult to feel himself "at home" in austria, I think that is easier for people from asian or oriental countries.

If you live in vienna you don't have to pay the school for your children. That is an advantage. But your children will experience the worst universities known to mankind after they finished school.
If you think about to visit any university in vienna yourself, you have to have very strong nerves. I wouldn't recommend it.

Vienna is nice for tourists, and has (some) nice buildings and sceneries.
But everyone who tries to live there gets nuts, it's just a matter of time.

Almaty is very green and has nice mountains, but do you think you will find a job there?

I would have the sme concern about singapore and hongkong, those cities are very expensive as well.

Madrid is nice. Zurich......hmmm....I don´t want say anything here (you know the difference between Zurich and the Central Cemetery of Vienna? Zurich is of twice the size of the viennese cemetery, but only half that amusing....)

Have you ever considered south african cities?
Cape Town and some other cities in the western cape province (Stellenbosch, Paarl, Hermanus, sommerset west, simons town etc.) are really beautifull, have a nice climate and are really cheap for europeans and americans(because the Rand is that "low").

But avoid vienna at all costs.


 
9V-SVE
Posts: 1953
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2001 7:51 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 7:03 pm

Be careful in Singapore! They have secret cameras watching you everywhere, in elevators, near traffic lights, in malls, and more and more and more... Big grin
 
seven_fifty7
Posts: 900
Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2000 2:54 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Mon Jul 29, 2002 11:19 pm

Wow. I wonder if Hepkat would agree with Zauberfloete's assessment of Austrian attitudes towards Americans.

 
747-451
Posts: 2327
Joined: Wed Oct 04, 2000 5:50 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:55 am

Buying a house in Florida is cheaper than in most states so I dont see the comaprison in Vienna; where purchasing a house is expensive.
 
srbmod
Posts: 15446
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 1:32 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Tue Jul 30, 2002 5:00 am

Airplanetire, I too felt that way about Atlanta when I was your age. I still would like to eventually leave Atlanta myself, but the cities I would like to move to seem to have problems worst than those here in Atlanta. I myself wouldn't mind moving to Portland, Oregon, but with their unemployment rate currently being among the highest in the nation, I think I may wait awhile. I thought about Boston, but it is quite an expensive city to live in, and the traffic there makes rush hour on the Downtown Connector look like nothing. I thought about Washington D.C., but changed my mind. Of course I really wanted to live in D.C. back when I still was a Political Science major (or at least was planning on being one up until I registered for my first quarter of college). ATL may have its' problems, but I think I'd rather be living here right now, than anywhere else in the world.
 
NoUFO
Posts: 7397
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2001 7:40 am

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Tue Jul 30, 2002 5:11 am

If I was you i would forget Warsaw immediately. It is definitely one of the mosta ugliest cities I have been to. Prague, Budapest and even Vilnius are comparatively nice, so - just in case you tend to move to a city in eastern Europe - I would suggest you to choose either Prague or Budapest.
I agree with those who like Barcelona better than Madrid.
And what about Rome, Firenze, Edinbourgh and Freiburg? Actually, I like Freiburg a lot. O.k., it's a small town but it is close to France (Alsace!) and Switzerland, has a southern charm, plenty of Cafes, Pubs and so on, an incredible old town (the so called Bächle is unique: a waterway flowing through the streets), good food, nice weather and last not least: because the University plays a major rule, there are many young people filling the streets. Freiburg is also an ideal location for studying the European Union.

Regards,
NoUFO
I support the right to arm bears
 
Boeing4ever
Posts: 4479
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2001 12:06 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Tue Jul 30, 2002 7:30 am

NoUFO, I disagree with you on Warsaw. It was one of the nicest cities I've been to!

B4e
 
Guest

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:39 am



***Sydney*** *yay*

Why? Because I'm here!  Smile

No, truly it is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Where those of us are lucky enoungh to have a simple commute to work by ferry, it's so stunning to leave you breathless and thankful that you live and work in such wonderful place.

mb

The new * of Airliners.net
 
9V-SVA
Posts: 1747
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2001 3:54 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:36 pm

ZX Lee, you're terribly wrong yet again. Since you don't live in Singapore, stop poking fun at the country where other people like me call home.

Singapore is a nice place to live in, although cars are terribly expensive(S$100 000 for a Toyota Corolla), the public transport system more than makes up for it.

Houses(apartments) can cost from S$100 000 for a two-bedroom apartment, and up to S$ 500 000 for a four-bedroom apartment.

You should come and live in Singapore. You'll enjoy it.

9V-SVA
9V-SVA | B772ER
 
Rickster
Posts: 648
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2000 10:47 pm

RE: Zauberflöte

Tue Jul 30, 2002 8:40 pm

It seems that you are a perfect representative of this you are critical about.
Servus aus Wien and greetings to Freud  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
Guest

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 31, 2002 2:54 am

Airplanetire, there's an old saying that goes, "Wherever you go, there you are".
Think long and hard before making your move. As someone here said, correctly, visiting a foreign city is one thing, LIVING there is quite another.
So true.

I have a good friend who dreamed of living in Italy. When he was 22, he packed up and moved from Boston to Florence....then Milan....then Rome...then Pisa,until 2 years later, he was back home. His fantasy of life there was totally shattered by the reality of day-to-day life in these urban centres. He also discovered "he" hadn't changed, only his place of residence. BUT, that was HIS experience, not yours. If you have this burning desire to live abroad, go for it, for life is too short. My friend may have not ended up staying in Italy, but he maintains it was an experience he does not regret.

I have had the good fortune and luck to travel and visit a lot of countries and cities in the world, I also had the great fortune of spending quite a bit of time in these places, the result being that the "touristy awe" of certain cities wore off, and I started to view these places in a mindset of "tourist - resident". And what a difference in terms of perspective! With the exception of a few
cities (Prague, Munich, Stockholm), I would not care to live in any of them. But that's me, not you. Therefore, seeing as though I was not REALLY a resident in the other cities, I don't think my appraisal of these centres would be valid. My friendly advice to you is to thoroughly research the cities on your list before packing up and heading off.

Good Luck! And don't let anyone or anything stand in the way of your dream.
Travelling is the best education there is. It is quite simply invaluable.
 
Transactoid
Posts: 785
Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2001 2:03 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 31, 2002 4:11 am

Hey, what about Toronto?  Big thumbs up
 
Guest

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 31, 2002 4:30 am

Transactoid, I have the feeling that this guy would like to experience a FOREIGN ie European culture. And while Toronto is indeed the most multicultural city in the world, I think our friend here wants to experience life afar, not in North America.

But, to learn about foreign cultures before he heads out, there is indeed no better city than Toronto to do it in!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

 
Rai
Posts: 1697
Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:12 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 31, 2002 4:41 am

But, to learn about foreign cultures before he heads out, there is indeed no better city than Toronto to do it in!

Speak for yourself, dude! As a former Toronto resident living in NYC, I can assure you that there is no comparison between the two cities. NYC is far more diverse.
 
LOT767-300ER
Posts: 8526
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2001 12:57 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 31, 2002 10:10 am

"If I was you i would forget Warsaw immediately."

What are you talking about? Warsaw has problems but the city is very nice. I guess you havent been to Nowe Miasto and to Nowy Swiat. However Chicago is better  Smile
 
pacificjourney
Posts: 2659
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2001 9:12 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 31, 2002 10:40 am

Others have said it but it is worth repeating. How do you plan to support yourself in your new home ?

If you are american working legally in other countries is fairly impossible unless you get a job before you go. Working illegally is OK but not recommended for the the long run. Your choices are going to be dictated by where you can get work. Don't worry about which place that might be as anywhere new is fun, at least for a while.

Try somewhere that isn't a first world country if you really want adventure. Out of the list you gave I would recommend Warsaw.
" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
 
SQ772
Posts: 1647
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2001 5:16 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Wed Jul 31, 2002 3:09 pm

9VSVE, think you have been reading too many science fiction books for your age. You have the makings of an opposition party member... you make things up and expect people to be "ignorant" enough to believe you.

Oh btw, the Singapore government have installed a hidden camera in your bathroom...so, remember to keep your clothes on when you shower...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

There's always a better way to fly...
 
9V-SVA
Posts: 1747
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2001 3:54 pm

RE: Info On These Cities That I Want To Live In.

Thu Aug 01, 2002 4:31 pm

SQ772, actually SVE is underage, so just ignore him, ya? Let him be in the Aviation Hobby forum where he belongs.


9V-SVA
9V-SVA | B772ER

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 1337Delta764, Aesma and 5 guests