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Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:23 am

I saw this on the front page of today's paper this morning. I am really excited by the prospect, Australia (Sydney) hosted the greatest Olympics ever, now we will have the chance to host the worlds most popular sporting event the Soccer World Cup. What do you guys think will we get the rights to host it?
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:44 am


Hey, I'm all for it. Just be careful that a rugby match doesn't breakout!

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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:51 am

I thought that the OFC wasn't going to be garunteed a 'turn'. Has that decision been made ?
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:02 pm

I don't know about getting a turn if you mean direct qualification into the world cup that decison will be made in December of this year.
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:25 pm

No, I meant turn as in the tourney will now be shared equally amongst the federations in turn ... 2006 Europe, 2010 Africa, etc. That is now the plan.

There was doubt that OFC would get an equal go. As far as OFC having it's own qualifying spot, it isn't a lock for Australia you know .....
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:43 pm

well, what about Australiasia? meaning: Australia/NewZealand may be Fiji or New Caledonia as well?
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:43 pm

Sorry, you are right, I think that they will be given equal status and a turn as well, also it is in the same time zone as much of Asia so Asia will probably support it also
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:52 pm

I would say the prospect of Australia winning the world cup would be very low. First of all Australia is hardly the world's greatest football nation (not that that matters)...and secondly football is not Australia's most popular game and I think it would be very difficult for us to fill the stadiums. It would be nice, but at this time I don't see it happening.
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:00 pm

"and secondly football is not Australia's most popular game and I think it would be very difficult for us to fill the stadiums. It would be nice, but at this time I don't see it happening"

This is not true Soccer is the most played game in Australia by terms of participation sport,the World Cup 3. place play off outrated the Wallabies game in both Melbourne and Sydney, with no Australian participation what so ever. The highest rating TV program this year was the World Cup final, for the Olympics the most watched games was the Soccer as far as ticket sales went all games where a sellout, and Australia did not even qualify for the second round. Australians love all sport and they very much love high quality sport.
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:39 pm

Not sure about Asia supporting the OFC, anything that OFC gets will probably be at the expense of Asia (or so they think) so who knows how it will go.

My opinion is that the OFC WILL get an automatic qualifying spot but won't be part of the rotation to host the tourney and frankly I think that is fair.

A spot for OFC will probably come at the expense of Europe, they have too many already .... wait for it ..... cue the outraged Europeans !
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:50 pm

I think we should have the right to host the world cup too.
The reason that Europe has so many spots is because of the TV rights and more European teams the rights will be sold for more money. However Australia has an economy and financial power of say Austria, Portugal, Belgium so as far as FIFA is concerned they will not be out of pocket.
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:59 pm

"Love high quality sport" : is that why Rugby is so popular?  Nuts

Oh, and I am a complete football fanatic, I love soccer!
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 2:09 pm

You know what I mean  Smile they like to see the best perform in whatever sport
 
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Sun Aug 04, 2002 2:21 pm

Might as well let us have it, it's the only way our team is going to get to play.



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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 2:56 pm

I think that Australia has an even slimmer chance of making Germany 2006 after losing to New Zealand, and not playing any matches for the next 6 months. We have all these so called "stars" in Europe, such as Kewell and Viduka, but they never want to come and play! You can have the best players in the world, but if they don't play for their country what's the point?

And ADG, that isn't a very good reason to let us have it. I don't think FIFA is going to say "Oh well the poor Aussies haven't been in the World Cup since 1974, we'll let them host it". What about all the other countries? Holland, who are a wonderful footballing country didn't even get to the World Cup in Korea/Japan!
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 3:09 pm

About appearances for Australia when it counts they have been there, and will be in the future, what will happen if you do not play (are available) in 75% of the games (non-friendly) you do not play at all. The key is a team of players who play together all the team, and if the stars do not want play then fine we have very good local talent who is underrated, and teams like Korea, USA, proved this year it is not about individual stars but about a teamwork. This bid will boost soccer here and Soccer Australia and we have a good chance for Germany 2006, as the talent that is available is at an all time high.
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 4:03 pm

I disagree that Australia has been there when it counts, we have only been in the World Cup once! And now we won't even be in the Confederations Cup...
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 4:05 pm

I meant the bulk of our stars, Viduka, Okon, Muscat, Moore
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 4:57 pm

Guys and girls, remember that it is in 2014! a lot of current players will be a tad (dare I say) over the hill? There are some real stars out there, and with Soccer (football) continuing to be the most popular sport in Australian schools (in terms of participation numbers) then Australia could well be revving up for a serious attempt at both entering and (if the stars are in allignment and the moon doth shine) winning the world cup.

Remember, if youd have said 12 years ago that Korea would get to the WC finals people would have laughed at you.


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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:48 pm

Guys,

Hhhhmmm, we've proven that we can host a major event "best ever" and it would be great to keep Australia in the eyes of the world. But I think the NSW government is gearing up for an election and there is nothing better than getting the punters excited about a local event of the magnitude near the Olympics.

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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:55 pm

Goodbye,

Who really cares? It's only soccer!



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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:11 pm

What a coincidence. A reuters report in todays Daily Yomiuri on the recent OFC meeting in New Zealand was attended by FIFA Pres. Sepp Blatter and he said,

" I fully recognise that this confederation should have the same rights as the other five confederations. One of those rights is to be able to play in ALL FIFA competitions and that means direct entry into the world cup. That is a statutory right and I will be fighting for that ".

He went on to say that now the reigning champion no longer qualifies automatically this has opened up one spot and that this place should go to an Oceania team.

So that sounds promising but Asia, CONCAF and Africa are all wanting another place and there is only one place that can come from, Europe !
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:18 pm

ADG... "only" soccer??!?!?!?!?!

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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:24 pm

Ignore it Goodbye. She's just a chuck !

ADG your profile says 'pootie' expert. Is that pootie-cat or compooter ?
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:37 pm

So much for my razor wit. A CHICK, just a chick, no chucking.
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:39 pm

ADG

Goodbye,

Who really cares? It's only soccer!

What do you mean? Soccer is the currency of the sporting world it the sport that counts! FIFA has more members than the UN

 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 9:38 pm

ADG your profile says 'pootie' expert. Is that pootie-cat or compooter ?

Compootier. Wondered where you were going with the chuck thing ...

What do you mean? Soccer is the currency of the sporting world it the sport that counts! FIFA has more members than the UN

I'm sorry, but I associate it with a lot of thuggish violence, not the sort of thing i'd let my kids be involved in. BTW I was baracking for Korea in the World Cup! (I wasn't rooting for them though as my husband was away)




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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 9:55 pm

Australia is good at hosting major sporting events, and it would be an excellent venue for the 2014 world cup.......however, the 12 hour time difference will be a killer for us in europe!
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:31 pm

... yes but perfect for us in Japan, not to mention the billion Chinese and North America. Someone has to get the shaft time-zone wise so why not Europe for a change ?
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Mon Aug 05, 2002 2:11 am

There could be more World cup slots becoming available if some of the African and Oceanic nations have their way-we know that they would like to see a unified Great Britain team in future qualifying campaigns. In any case I think it's only a matter of time before the OFC gets a direct route into the World cup, but is there any point in that unless there is some real competition to rival Australia?


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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Mon Aug 05, 2002 1:59 pm

As much as it would be good to see Australia in the world cup, I don't think Direct Qualification is the answer. Australia manages to beat countries like American Samoa 30-nil etc, I believe Australia should be playing someone from Asia, instead of direct qualification. However, at the rate the Australian team (I really hate the name "Socceroos") is going, New Zealand may be there before us!
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Mon Aug 05, 2002 6:10 pm

ADG says:

"I'm sorry, but I associate it with a lot of thuggish violence, not the sort of thing i'd let my kids be involved in."

That is being narrow minded it has nothing to do with thuggery or violence, only a very small percentage of fans (if they can be called that) are hooligans (if it can be expressed in % terms it being so low). I have been to about 20 international soccer games and countless club games across the world never seen a problem. The Australian media likes to make soccer look bad or at least it has in the past.
If we talk about violence have a look at Aussie Rules, Rugby U & L, where punch ups, wrestling are almost part of the game. We must also give the NRL & AFL judiciary a mention where eye gauging is dealt with on weekly basis.
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Mon Aug 05, 2002 8:15 pm

i thought she was talking about the riots from certain *cough*english*cough* fans whenever their team lost. (btw. i'm not bashing the english)

the media had a real feast on that during euro'96, wc'98 and euro2000. luckily it's easier to stop the thugs getting to japan than it is to stop them getting to france, so every thing was pretty much okay this year.

if my memory serves me correct, there were riots in russia when they got put out from the world cup this year.
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:34 pm

Fifa should have a rule: No country that says "soccer" instead of "football" should be alowed to host the games.
 
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Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:39 pm

That is being narrow minded it has nothing to do with thuggery or violence, only a very small percentage of fans (if they can be called that) are hooligans (if it can be expressed in % terms it being so low).

I disagree, even at the kiddie soccer you see overexcited parents acting like thugs. I used to take my kids, but having parents scream abuse as the kids and the referee wasn't any fun at all so my kids now play other sports.

I have been to about 20 international soccer games and countless club games across the world never seen a problem. The Australian media likes to make soccer look bad or at least it has in the past.

You ASSume my attitude is based upon the soccer thuggery I see on TV. It's not. It's based on experience by the soccer field and re-inforced by what I see on TV.

If we talk about violence have a look at Aussie Rules, Rugby U & L, where punch ups, wrestling are almost part of the game. We must also give the NRL & AFL judiciary a mention where eye gauging is dealt with on weekly basis.

Hardly similar at all .. perhaps the behaviour of bulldog supporters can be likened to it, but that's really limited to the supporters from one club only and crowd violence is all but unheard of in Australian Rules.

As for soccer itself, seems to me that your ability to play well is based upon your acting ability.




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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:44 pm

Yeah out of 3 billion people who watched how many rioted? A couple hundred? Maybe a couple thousand not much is it?
 
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Wed Aug 07, 2002 2:44 am

Remember, if youd have said 12 years ago that Korea would get to the WC finals people would have laughed at you.
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Wed Aug 07, 2002 1:42 pm

"Power"

Might I suggest you actually read the posts of others? You appear to be totally off the track (again). That hooliganism is repeated time and time again at the local soccer oval by the spectators watching the games. Screaming at the kids and umpire, spitting on people .. physical attacks.

I've seen it first hand.





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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Wed Aug 07, 2002 8:03 pm

Whereas all the above takes place ON the field in Rugby etc...
 
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Wed Aug 07, 2002 9:39 pm

Ash,

At the 9 and 10 year old level of Rugby they most certainly do not, well not where I am anyway. Mind you, my preference is for Aussie Rules ...




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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Thu Aug 08, 2002 2:55 am

We all know that Australia would be a great venue for the World Cup, but the time zone does present problems. The "why not Europe [to suffer] for a change" argument makes sense from a moral perspective, but unfortunately it would also apply to South America to some degree, and the South American (and especially European) television stations are where the money is. None of them would be especially happy at the kind of times the games would kick off at, and the combination of Europe being between 3am and 7 am and South America at 11pm to 3am might make FIFA stop for a minute and consider the financial implications.

Is that fair? No, of course not, but it may well have a bearing.
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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Thu Aug 08, 2002 6:02 am

Banco,

didn't stop the world in 2000. What will stop the bid is that Soccer Australia is nothing more than disorganised rabble with financial problems. As the PM said, the Government will NOT support a bid at this time. When Soccer Australia gets past it's internal bickering and organisational issues the government will support a bid.

Personally, I think the Aussies should learn to win a few soccer games first!



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RE: Australia To Bid For World Cup In 2014

Thu Aug 08, 2002 11:57 am

Soccer brings out many an emotion....

Read on:

http://www.mississauga.com/mi/peelpolice/story/491938p-612122c.html

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