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Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 8:50 am

After seen that 'popularity' poll for guitarist, I'd like to point out some guitar players that don't get the attention they deserve as 'skilled musicians'.
I can care less about popularity/commercial success and attitude which seem to be the determining factor in many cases , I'd like to hear about guitar players that are actually good.

I've been playing guitar since I was 12 and I like to hear players/songwriters who are good regardless of style of music.

My favorites would be:
Alex Lifeson of RUSH
Mike Campbell of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
and
Phil Keaggy.



As for RUSH, you have to go beyond Tom Sawyer (the radio song) to hear what he is capable of. Listen to Hemispheres (all 18:07 of it), All of Permanent Waves and even Power Windows (which has a lot of synth) and you will be amazed. A great guitar player does more than shred or bend every note like the blues guys, an excellent player can paint a picture and get the most sound out of 6 strings (or 12).
I was lucky to meet him at a music & tennis festival back in 1990. Very funny and down to earth guy who like to crack a lot of jokes. Our style of humor was so alike it almost scarred me.  Laugh out loud



Mike Campbell is great because of all the fills and colors he adds to the music. He is one of the few rockers who can solo on a Rickenbacker 12-string. Any guitarist who has played one of these knows that's not an easy task. Those slim necks with all of that lacquer can make things very hard to move around.



Phil Keaggy is simply amazing. Excellent songwriter/composer and player. He is missing two fingers on one hand and can pull off what many can't do with all 10. He is unknown to many because he is on the Christian record labels and is mainly in to singing religious songs and doesn’t really care for all of the fanfare and hype.
A good album to get a dose is ‘Love Broke Through’ (1976) and The Master and the Musician (1978)
I've actually met him too at a church once to see him put on a small show. Very nice guy.
BTW, I am not one of those ‘holy-roller’ types.



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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 8:56 am

Andres Segovia


Charo
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 8:57 am

too many people mistake loudness for talent. i think that just about all of todays so called guitarists have little talent beyond making those shrill, ear piercing buzz saw noises. some people think thats talent. i think its garbage. i don't care about how loud or shrill it is. I want to hear a good melody.
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 8:58 am

 Embarrassment
OH, how could I forget Charo! Embarrassment


Andres Segovia is outstanding and is repscected by many that don't even listen to classical. Very well know guitar player.
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 8:59 am

I wondered when someone would mention Phil Keaggy. He is really good.
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:03 am

Leopold:
You are right!  Big thumbs up

No guitarist that's been on MTV for the last 10 years don't even belong on a list with talented guitarist.

To think that Kirt Cocaine made that list with real musicians is a crime. I can't believe that guitarist of the group Cum...err... I mean Creed gets endorsments for Paul Reed Smith guitars.
They are nothing but a boy-band that can play instruments and screem.

Eric Clapton is OK but he just seems like the guitarist that's safe for mam & dad to listen to.
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:05 am

Jessman:
I am amazed that someone else even knew who he was.  Smokin cool
I've been listening to his music for over 10 years.

To songs Time and Take Me Closeer gives my goosebumps.  Laugh out loud
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:17 am

John Williams


Jose Feliciano




Superfly, more Charo for you!  Big thumbs up


 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:25 am

Lortab 7.5mg:
I thought you didn't like covers of 60s' songs?


Jose Feliciano doing a doors song?
It must sound cool.  Smokin cool



I love that Charo!
Yoor going for the gusto.  Big grin
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 10:06 am

One of my favorites is Pat Metheny - an outstanding jazz guitarist, and probably one of the best guitarists in the world.
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 10:21 am


Liona Boyd

Easy on the eyes.
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 2:51 pm

Dave Matthews.

That's my vote.

'Speed
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 3:07 pm

Speaking of under-rated guitar players, I just returned from John Mayer concert. He's relatively new on the scene, but he puts on a great show. Better live than on the CD.

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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 4:45 pm

Peter Buck. Guitarist for R.E.M. and Tuatara. Most people never even heard of the man, sadly.
http://www.tuatara.com
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 5:22 pm

Jwenting:
I'll check out Tuatara.
I have respect for any band that a uses string bass, bongos, trumpet, grand piano and dulcimer.  Smokin cool  Big thumbs up

I will definatley check them out!
Thanks for the link Jwenting.  Smile
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Thu Aug 08, 2002 6:44 pm




Stolen?

Stolen?


I ain't no theif!

What kind of crap is that?  Confused
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:07 am

I'd vote Tommy Shaw of Styx.
Very melodic yet hard rocking guitarist.
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Sat Aug 10, 2002 4:50 am

I always thought Oz Fox of Stryper was very underrated. Wasn't really into their music lyricswise, but always liked the music itself.
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Sat Aug 10, 2002 8:56 am

Robbie Robertson from The Band. He was dominant!
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Sun Aug 11, 2002 4:31 pm

I think Johhny Marr from The Smiths is very underated.




Excellent guitarist! Very talented!
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Sun Aug 11, 2002 11:46 pm

Good question...:

Pat Metheny
John Pettrucci
Dave Murray
John Jorgenson
Jerry Donahue
Stefan Elmgren
the guy that played the guitar on the last BILLY JOEL album

to name but a few

also many guitarists I have worked with, there was one guy from Peru whose name I forgot who was incredible, played everything of all the Vai, Satriani, etc... bunch at the age of 18 (!) but with much more heart and esteem as those.
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 4:47 am

Javier Batiz..........he was the guitar teacher to non other than Carlos Santana.
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 7:37 am

Anyone heard of Eric Johnson?

He gets my vote
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 7:54 am

AMRAAM:
Oh yes I am very aware of Eric Johnson. I saw him open for RUSH in 1991.

Another guitarist I forgot to mention was Michael Hedges.
He is an outstanding New Age guitarist.
His album 'Aerial Boundaries' (1984) is a masterpiece.
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:04 am

Trickijedi, maybe Johnny Marr is under-rated in the US but you'll be pleased to hear that he is VERY highly thought of over here. Not only as a guitarist but as a composer. And rightfully so.
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:09 am

There's a light that never goes out.  Smile
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:14 am

And many more! Theirs was a different kind of partnership to that of Lennon & McCartney but I think Morrisey & Marr are responsible for some of the finest songs ever recorded.
OK, this thread has prompted me to play "The Queen Is Dead"..........
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:21 am

Some girls are bigger than others.  Smile
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 8:24 am

And some girls' mothers are bigger than other girls' mothers!
 
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RE: Under-Rated Guitar Players

Tue Aug 13, 2002 10:51 am

Hi Toady,

...but I think Morrisey & Marr are responsible for some of the finest songs ever recorded.

I agree, I think Morriseey is one of the greatest songwriters out there and of course, Marr brought a melodic life to Morrissey's words.

I used to be a huge Smiths fan growing up. Been a big fan since I was in 8th grade and have seen many of their shows live. I guess maybe part of the appeal was that I knew they weren't from the U.S. so if course, as a result, they would only come here once a year. But I've always thought that they were an excellent band. Even though Morrissey took the majority of the spotlight in the band I always thought Marr was a great guitarist. Glad to know he is well appreciated in the UK. All of my Smiths stuff is on vinyl (including imports) so I can't quite play any of their songs right now. But I think I'll download Bigmouth Strikes Again!
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